Slow startup - Which of these programs can I remove?

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Slow startup - Which of these programs can I remove?

#1 Post by Jmmmmm » Wed Aug 10, 2005 4:03 am

My computer takes about 2 minutes to start up, which seems like a very long time to me. I want to remove a lot of the junk that starts up with the computer, but I'm new to IBM and don't know what's necessary and what is filler. So, these are all the things starting up (25!) on the computer. The ones in blue that I checked fall into one of two categories: a) I have no idea what it is, or b) I know what it is, but I don't know if it's needed or if it can be disabled. Either way, I'd like to know what I can get rid of.

And, if there are other tips to speed up the boot time, I'd like to hear them.

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#2 Post by GomJabbar » Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:08 am

This is what I think. If any others here have different ideas, chime in.

1) CcApp - Norton Antivirus - keep or replace with other AV software
2) Control Center - Fingerprint Reader - keep if you want to use fingerprint scanner
3) Desktop - not sure - probably keep
4) Desktop - not sure - probably keep
5) Dla - Drive Letter Access - can remove if don't need to use CD/RW like hard disk
6) Ezejmnap - EasyEject Utility - can be removed
7) Ibmprc - not sure
8) Pwrmgrtr - Power Management - probably can remove, but not sure
9) Qcwlicon - Access Connections Wireless Status Icon - probably can remove
10) Symantec NetDriver Monitor - Norton Antivirus - keep or replace with AV software
11) SynTPEnh - Touch Pad - keep if you use Touch Pad
12) SynTPLpr - Touch Pad - keep if you use Touch Pad
13) Tp4ex - TrackPoint Accessability Features - can be removed
14) Tphotkey - ThinkPad HotKey Features - can be removed
15) Tpkmaphelper - ThinkPad Keymapper Helper - can be removed
16) TpShocks - Hard Disk Shock Protection - remove if desired
17) UC-smb - IBM Update Connector - should be able to remove (If ThinkVantage Software Installer doesn't work, then check box again
18) UC_Start - IBM Update Connector - should be able to remove (If ThinkVantage Software Installer doesn't work, then check box again
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#3 Post by jdhurst » Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:28 am

I think GomJabbar's list is pretty complete. I would certainly uninstall Update Connector because Software Installer does a better job.

Otherwise, the other approach is to look at the programs: don't have any automatic updates running (SUN Java, Real Audio, QuickTime, Adobe, and on and on and on and on); uncheck the system tray option if you don't need to see the system tray item; check other options for doing things you don't need.

I do as I suggest here, and it takes a while to start (Access Connections, Symantec Client Security, DHCP et al are pigs on startup), but once running, I run at 2 percent or less CPU (including kernel) usage more than 99 percent of the time.
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#4 Post by mg » Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:26 am

jdhurst wrote:I would certainly uninstall Update Connector because Software Installer does a better job.
Unfortunately, it looks like Software Installer runs Java during startup, which slows it down quite a bit. I don't know why this huge thing has to run at startup and not on request...

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#5 Post by jdhurst » Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:46 am

Software installer has never run at startup for me (Update Connector did and was certainly Java based). Software installer should only run on demand, so look at your startup folder or use msconfig or startup cop to determine if somehow it got into the start sequence.
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#6 Post by cruzlite » Sat Aug 13, 2005 3:35 pm

JMMMMM's thread is just what the doctor ordered for me as I have just acquired my first notebook...a T41...
ComJabbar's list was very helpful also...however...
I have 5 items I cannot positively identify, and would like opinions as to weather or not they are removable;

S3Tray2 (?).........................................Removable?
BMMLREF (?)........................................?
atiptaxx (Video?)..................................?
sgtray (Sound?)....................................?
AGRSMMSG (Agrere msngr?).................?

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#7 Post by s0larian » Sun Aug 14, 2005 6:40 am

BMMLREF = IBM Battery Maximiser
AGRSMMSG = Modem
ATIPTA = ATI Control Panel

StartCPL is a little freeware tool which lets you easily activate or deactivate startup programs and services. So you can play around and if you run into problems just activate them again. Here is the URL:
http://www.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml
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#8 Post by GomJabbar » Sun Aug 14, 2005 9:43 am

s3tray2.exe is used to gain quick access to a S3 graphics device. I don't see any reason not to remove it, unless you have a S3 video adapter. I would suggest renaming it first, and if no problems show up after using your computer for a while, then delete it.

sgtray.exe is Sonic Update Manager. I believe this is to check for updates on any Sonic software you may have on your laptop, such as RecordNow! and BackUp MyPC. Should be able to remove.

That said, why not just use hibernate or suspend? Much faster than booting up cold, and you don't have to worry about removing every process. 8)
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#9 Post by supergoat » Sun Aug 14, 2005 6:43 pm

My suggestion is to, at the very least, remove anything from Symantic, including Norton Antivirus. Replace it with AVG or Panda.

Symantic products LOVE to eat resources.
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#10 Post by cruzlite » Sun Aug 14, 2005 11:02 pm

Thanks to sOlarian & Gomjabar .....IDs & suggestions
incorporated...(W/ exception-S3Tray2....Don't know if I have an S3)
Will apply & return for update on current state.............
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#11 Post by cruzlite » Mon Aug 15, 2005 12:02 am

OK...<60sec startup-(0 to IBM wlan)...[10/2/05

CURRENT STATE;

[X] S3Tray2.........Fast access to S3 graphics device?
[X] SynTPLpr........Touchpad
[X] SynTPEnh........Tochpad
[X] TpShocks.........HDD Protection System
[X] TPHKMGR.........Tp hotkey mgr
[X] TpKmapAp........Tp keyboard map ap
[ ] antiptaxx...........ATI cntrl pnl
[ ] sgtray...............Sonic update mgr
[ ] ucstartup...........IBM Tools Update Connector?
[X] pwrmonit............Power monitor
[X] BMMLREF............Batt Mxmzr
[X] BatInfEx.............Batt
[X] BatLogEx............Batt log ?
[X] QCTRAY.............IBM accessConnection
[X] QCWLICON.........Wireless status icon
[X] AGRSMMSG.........Agere modem
[X] PRONoMgr...........intel wireless cntrl ?
[ ] EzEMnAp.............Easy eject (I use windows systray)
[ ] ibmmessages......ibm mess
[ ] Smax4................sound
[ ] SMax4PNP...........sound
[ ] tp4ex..................Trackpoint accessability


?=ID, function, & or need to start are in question...............................

Software installer works best ....

Corrections?... ID's..........?

Note/[2-18-06]; QCWLICON now seems to be; ACWLIcon [AC 4.11a]
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#12 Post by RBob » Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:25 am

GomJabbar wrote:That said, why not just use hibernate or suspend? Much faster than booting up cold, and you don't have to worry about removing every process. 8)
With my R51 and XP Pro, it seems that the WPA handshaking to my wireless router makes the recovery from hibernate take just as long as a cold boot.

At least, that's what it looks like it's doing.

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#13 Post by mg » Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:07 am

mg wrote:Unfortunately, it looks like Software Installer runs Java during startup
I take it back: The monster [55 MB VM] was IBM Update Connector, as previously mentioned, and after removing it, it looks much better...

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#14 Post by cruzlite » Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:07 am

EDIT; See above for updated state
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#15 Post by Procter » Wed Aug 24, 2005 5:55 pm

Can I uninstall the power management and use battery maximiser instead. The latter one seems to have even more function than the power management

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#16 Post by cruzlite » Sat Sep 17, 2005 4:33 am

GomJabbar quote;

"That said, why not just use hibernate or suspend? Much faster than booting up cold, and you don't have to worry about removing every process. "

Hibernate has not worked well for me since 2000...(Me)

Restarts have proved most healthfull...........................
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#17 Post by reltor » Sat Jan 21, 2006 1:47 pm

supergoat wrote:My suggestion is to, at the very least, remove anything from Symantic, including Norton Antivirus. Replace it with AVG or Panda.

Symantic products LOVE to eat resources.
I agree, Kaspersky is also good, I like it because I can disable realtime, if I want max speed, and still have an awsome on-demand scanner.
...before it's too late.

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#18 Post by BoomAM » Sun Jan 22, 2006 1:27 pm

Does anyone know what these are:
UCLauncher.exe
LPMGR.exe
cssauth.exe
qctray.exe

Ive just disabled in startup these:
Ezejmnap.exe - Because i can just use the windows ejector program.
Isuspm.exe - Because im not bothered about the installer software updating itself.
issch.exe - as above.
qctray.exe - i asume from the icon that its the ibm connect thingy, which i never use.

Are there any potential problems there?

Thanks in advance.

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#19 Post by donking! » Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:11 am

For people running Acronis TrueImage, I found this tweak to allow you to disable it's startup processes without messing up the functioning of TrueImage.

TrueImage has two (or three, depending, I think, on your version) startup processes.

trueimagemonitor.exe
schedhlp.exe
schedul2.exe

These need to run for TrueImage to function properly, even when you manually make images. But there's no reason they have to run at startup (unless you're using the automatic scheduling features of TrueImage).

The following tweak creates a script that runs the processes when you start TrueImage, rather than having them run all the time. It's from:

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/archive/ ... 42407.html

I added lines 3.5 and 4.5, after making a mistake that didn't allow the script to run properly.

1) Make a folder called 'Acronis Startup Tweak' (or any other name) in the Acronis Program folder or any other convenient out-of-the-way location

2) right-click TrueImage.exe (in the Acronis Program Folder), click 'create shortcut', and put the shortcut in your Acronis Startup Tweak folder

3) right-click schedhlp.exe (in \Program Files\Common Files\Acronis\Schedule2), click 'create shortcut', and put the shortcut in your Acronis Startup Tweak folder

3.5) shortcuts have to have same name as executables (get rid of "shortcut to" part)

4) copy/paste the text below into notepad:

NET START "Acronis Scheduler2 Service"
START schedhlp.exe.lnk
START TrueImage.exe.lnk

4.5) i added: START TrueImageMonitor.exe.lnk

i put that between START schedhlp.exe.lnk and START TrueImage.exe.lnk. i think you basically want to look at what processes your version of acronis is running at startup and then make sure those are included in the script you create here.

5) save the notepad file as startacronis.bat (or any other name, as long as the extension is '.bat'. Put it into your Acronis Startup Tweak folder

6) Right-click the .bat file, click 'create shortcut', and put the shortcut in your start menu, desktop, quicklaunch bar or wherever you want it.

7) optional: right-click this shortcut and change the icon, e.g. use the icon in TrueImage.exe

When you doubleclick the .bat file (or shortcut to the .bat file), you'll see a dos-style box. The batch file will start the acronis scheduler service (takes a few seconds), the schedule helper program (very fast), and then Acronis True Image itself.



Now you can disable the processes as startup items.

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