Any word on the latest T-series?

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onix · #1 Post by **onix** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:04 am

I have been waiting patiently for my 14.1" T43p to arrive, and am beginning to wonder if the newest model will be out before it arrives.

Does anyone have the latest, or know when IBM/Lenovo will make the next announcement?

In my opinion, it would be great to see the following enhancements:

o FlexView on 14.1"
o A quieter fan, i.e. a cooler (and faster) CPU than the Sonoma. Possibly Yonah?
o Possibility to handle 4GB of RAM
o The latest ATI video chip. See benchmarks.
o Removing the parallel port and adding FireWire & DVI/HDMI connections
o Large HD, or better BIOS compatability with 3rd party.

Take the poll.

TimWang · #2 Post by **TimWang** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:30 pm

I'm looking forward to a 5 hour battery life on a 6 cell.

onix · #3 Post by **onix** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:20 pm

TimWang wrote:I'm looking forward to a 5 hour battery life on a 6 cell.

You should vote for a cooler motherboard & CPU.

arion · #4 Post by **arion** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:45 pm

Better sound (7.1 or 5.1 or even just 4.1 by having the microphone input able to be selected as 2nd output for rear speakers)

Better speakers

More USB 2.0 ports

Wireless USB instead of Bluetooth

nirvana0001 · #5 Post by **nirvana0001** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 2:13 pm

the latest model has p-m 780 (2.26ghz) and 7k100.
I wise it has ATI v5000.
for sound, I added creavtive pcmcia sound card on my tp which support 7.1 surround. very good tho~

smugiri · #6 Post by **smugiri** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:34 pm

I am not too sure about some of the features that I see here. If I had to pick one feature I would love to see ( in all laptops and not just thinkpads ), it would be a full day battery that can go say 12 to 14 hours AND a charging system that the AC charger built into the laptop. This system would eliminate the block charger and allow the AC cable to retract into the laptop in some way so that you only have to carry a laptop and not have to bring some kind of cable/charger block combi along as well.

#7 Post by **K. Eng** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 6:33 pm

Unless there are dramatic advances in battery technology, 12-14 hour systems will probably not appear for many years. Intel is hoping to eventually deliver machines with about ~8 hours of battery life by the 2007-8 timeframe. It intends to accomplish this by reducing average power consumption of a notebook to 8 watts and increasing 6-cell LiIon capacity to 72 Watt*Hrs.

I suspect that AC chargers are not integrated into a notebook's chasis because the current state of power supply technology does not allow for a charger that is small enough to fit inside today's machines. Power supplies tend to generate a lot of heat and would also need extra cooling. However, I agree with you that an integrated AC charger would be very convenient if it was small & cool enough.

smugiri wrote:I am not too sure about some of the features that I see here. If I had to pick one feature I would love to see ( in all laptops and not just thinkpads ), it would be a full day battery that can go say 12 to 14 hours AND a charging system that the AC charger built into the laptop. This system would eliminate the block charger and allow the AC cable to retract into the laptop in some way so that you only have to carry a laptop and not have to bring some kind of cable/charger block combi along as well.

#8 Post by **JaneL** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:17 pm

K. Eng wrote:I suspect that AC chargers are not integrated into a notebook's chasis because the current state of power supply technology does not allow for a charger that is small enough to fit inside today's machines. Power supplies tend to generate a lot of heat and would also need extra cooling. However, I agree with you that an integrated AC charger would be very convenient if it was small & cool enough.

Compaq used to have models with the adapter built into the sytem. They were hot and heavy.

Navck · #9 Post by **Navck** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:29 pm

Toughie, X600/9700 would be nice, revert to T42 chipset or more silent T43, and in 14.1 1400x1050 Flexview
Compact, silent, light

Fynch · #10 Post by **Fynch** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 2:22 am

I've a T40p. For me, T serie is perfect except for one thing: the speakers. I had a better quality with my old IBM A30.

Steve007 · #11 Post by **Steve007** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:01 am

TimWang wrote:I'm looking forward to a 5 hour battery life on a 6 cell.

How's that going to work with Intel's power hungry dual core CPU's then?

Steve007 · #12 Post by **Steve007** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:01 am

Fynch wrote:I've a T40p. For me, T serie is perfect except for one thing: the speakers. I had a better quality with my old IBM A30.

Yes, the speakers are crap but they do the job from a business point of view.

Mathew@8432 · #13 Post by **Mathew@8432** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:21 am

The '14.1" with FlexView' is a must.

TimWang · #14 Post by **TimWang** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:11 am

Steve007 wrote:
TimWang wrote:I'm looking forward to a 5 hour battery life on a 6 cell.
How's that going to work with Intel's power hungry dual core CPU's then?

I am being hopeful and waiting for a technological breakthrough

onix · #15 Post by **onix** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:29 pm

TimWang wrote:
Steve007 wrote: How's that going to work with Intel's power hungry dual core CPU's then?
I am being hopeful and waiting for a technological breakthrough

I cancelled my order for the T43p -- I wanna wait for a cool dual core.

#16 Post by **K. Eng** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:35 pm

http://www.anandtech.com/news/shownews.aspx?i=25077

It depends on what dual core CPU you will be using. The 'E' class will be a barn burner at 50 Watts TDP, but these will generally go into large gaming machines. 'T' class comes in between 25-49 Watts, but most will be in the 31 Watt category. I believe that Yonah notebooks will generally be as cool or cooler than current Dothan notebooks.

Keep in mind that TDP generally refers to the max or close to max power usage under realistic conditions. When your computer is idling or doing light tasks, the CPU is not eating that much power.

By far the most power hungry element in a notebook is the display.

I think that 5 hours is possible on a 6-cell battery so long as Intel has improved the power use characteristics on the 945 chipset. The 915 was pretty hungry compared to the 855, according to the official Intel datasheets. This was enough to offset the power savings from lower voltage DDR2 memory.

Steve007 wrote:
TimWang wrote:I'm looking forward to a 5 hour battery life on a 6 cell.
How's that going to work with Intel's power hungry dual core CPU's then?

nrj45 · #17 Post by **nrj45** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:48 am

I wonder having a 1cm thick pad that we could attach like a docking station. But it would be no docking station but only a big battery that would make my t43p work about lets say 14h on battery (sure it's realizable).
Included in this dream battery, some little controllers that could be switched on/off (to spare battery). I mean 2 other usb ports, firewire

nelson_vladimir · #18 Post by **nelson_vladimir** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 4:31 pm

I need to keep my 9-Pack cell.... so next T i hope they will use the same battery slot.

Also ultrabay slim.

kyrotech · #19 Post by **kyrotech** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:19 am

A mobility X1300 or X1600 once they get released, and maybe a X1800

onix · #20 Post by **onix** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:45 pm

What are the specs on these bad boys??

kyrotech wrote:A mobility X1300 or X1600 once they get released, and maybe a X1800

fbrdphreak · #21 Post by **fbrdphreak** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:43 pm

I would not expect a new T-model until the dual core Pentium M (yonah) comes out in Q106. These will support 4GB RAM, no 64-bit, run single core on battery, offer only slightly higher clock speeds probably, DDR2 667 support, and slightly better integrated graphics (GMA 950).

I think this is the last update I did on Yonah:
http://www.laptoplogic.com/news/detail.php?id=45

onix · #22 Post by **onix** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:04 pm

Can anyone explain the T50p to me?

http://www.ip-web.de/ThinkPad/T50/ThinkPad_T50p.htm

The T60 with Yonah is also listed on the side -- I guess in major anticipation.

fbrdphreak · #23 Post by **fbrdphreak** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:18 pm

Can we say typo?

GoEatFood · #24 Post by **GoEatFood** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:33 pm

smugiri wrote:I am not too sure about some of the features that I see here. If I had to pick one feature I would love to see ( in all laptops and not just thinkpads ), it would be a full day battery that can go say 12 to 14 hours AND a charging system that the AC charger built into the laptop. This system would eliminate the block charger and allow the AC cable to retract into the laptop in some way so that you only have to carry a laptop and not have to bring some kind of cable/charger block combi along as well.

I've seen a thing online at gizmodo or engadget for a fuel cell. I think it said the base unit would be something like 500 dollars and the actual fuel cells are only like a buck and you get about a 14 hours of power. I'll have to look for that and I'll post it.

fbrdphreak · #25 Post by **fbrdphreak** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:38 pm

onix wrote:Can anyone explain the T50p to me?

http://www.ip-web.de/ThinkPad/T50/ThinkPad_T50p.htm

The T60 with Yonah is also listed on the side -- I guess in major anticipation.

I love how it just says "T50p" and "T60" with no relevant specs

onix · #26 Post by **onix** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:04 pm

Might see Yonah sooner than expected.

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20051115A7035.html&cid=0

Also in a Mac:

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20051115-5572.html

A Thinkpad running MacOS, now wouldn't that be awesome.

fbrdphreak · #27 Post by **fbrdphreak** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:12 pm

Yonah was always slated for January. Doesn't mean you'll see dual core Yonah in Jan tho, Feb or later for that from what I hear...

LumberJack · #28 Post by **LumberJack** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 7:20 pm

K. Eng wrote:Unless there are dramatic advances in battery technology, 12-14 hour systems will probably not appear for many years. Intel is hoping to eventually deliver machines with about ~8 hours of battery life by the 2007-8 timeframe. It intends to accomplish this by reducing average power consumption of a notebook to 8 watts and increasing 6-cell LiIon capacity to 72 Watt*Hrs.

There are already laptops with 70+ WHrs capacity

http://www.electrovaya.com/product/sc3000.html

I've use this particular one and you can push it past 7 hrs. Also, you can get aux batteries that are fairly slim with 100+ Whr capability.

LJ

Socrates · #29 Post by **Socrates** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:18 pm

The t40s are almost perfect........except: SPEAKERS!!! Come on Big Blue!
I know it's a business notebook, but "business" can be a LOT of things these days!!

shuvit · #30 Post by **shuvit** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:56 pm

but i thought ibms speakers are MUCH BETTER than others'

Any word on the latest T-series?

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Any word on the latest T-series?

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