Which DVD-Writer is build in Z60m

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Which DVD-Writer is build in Z60m

#1 Post by Ariel » Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:29 am

Have someone the Modell-Name of DVD-Drive and how i can switch it to ANY other (NEC ect.) DVD-Writer ?

I've read (on an Online-Shop) in Germany that the Build-In Writer cannot write DVD+R Medium.
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#2 Post by snife » Sun Oct 30, 2005 3:43 pm

Of course it can write DVD-R, ThinkPad burners have always supported - media, it is only recently that + media is also supported.

The dvd burner drives are either the UJ-830Z or the GSA-4080N. Same connectors and all that of the previous Ultrabay Enhanced drives - I think the connector is sort of industry standard but third party drives may need some modifications to the casing for them to fit in.

The model I have at the moment is the GSA-4080N and I have been happily burning DVD-R and DVD-RW media on it.

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#3 Post by Ariel » Sun Oct 30, 2005 4:08 pm

Thx for your answer.. so i have miss-wrote - i mean DVD+R - not -R :oops:

They should only Read DVD+R ??

but this saying the contrary:
"GSA-4080N" is the key...

It should have the specs of:
Write Speed (DVD+R) : 2.4x, 4x ZCLV, 8x ZCLV
Write Speed (DVD-R) : 2xCLV, 4x ZCLV, 8x ZCLV
Write Speed (DVD+RW) : 2.4x, 4x ZCLV
Write Speed (DVD-RW) : 1xCLV, 2xCLV, 4xZCLV
Write Speed (CD-R) : 10x,16xZCLV, 24x ZCLV
Write Speed (CD-RW) : 4x, 10x, 16x ZCLV
(High Speed: 10x, Ultra Speed: 16x)
Read Speed (CD-R/RW/ROM) : 24x / 24x / 24x max
Read Speed (DVD-R/RW/ROM) : 8x / 6x / 8x max
Write Method(DVD+R/+RW) : 8x / 6xmax
Write Method(DVD-RAM(Ver.1.0/2.1)) : 3x / 2x
Data Transfer Rate(CD) : Max 3,600KB/s, DVD: Max 11.08 Mbytes/s

PS: Tomorrow i ask the Dealer what Devil he's riding :twisted:

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#4 Post by fbrdphreak » Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:46 am

I'll check out the Z60m tonight for you, but most Thinkpads use 4x Matsh!ta drives.
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#5 Post by dr_st » Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:43 am

As was pointed out by snife, there are two options for the DVD Burner on the Z60m: PCC UJ-830Z (Panasonic/M a t s u s h i t a) or HLDS GSA-4080A (Hitachi/LG). Specs on both show that they are both truly super-multi, i.e. read and write +R/RW, -R/RW and RAM.

This page is the evidence:
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... 61358.html

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#6 Post by Ariel » Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:36 pm

I dont can think too, that Lenovo build in such an enconomy-Drive, so i knew not any DVD-Writer they cant burn DVD+

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#7 Post by Ariel » Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:56 am

Today i receive following answer from the (German) Notebook-Shop:
Dear Mr...
Thank you for your inquiry. Unfortunately I cannot say to you, from which manufacturer the inserted DVD Writer comes. However I can confirm that this DVD Writer data medium of the type DVD+R and DVD+RW can only read.
Regards ...
:roll: :shock: :?:

Its seem to be this (from the T40/T41/T42):
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... yout=print

THX ALL, for your Help.

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#8 Post by fbrdphreak » Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:14 am

OK guys, enough worrying! Here is the info from Everest on the Z60m's DVDRW:

[ HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4080N ]

Device Properties:
Driver Description HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4080N
Driver Date 7/1/2001
Driver Version 5.1.2535.0
Driver Provider Microsoft
INF File cdrom.inf

Optical Drive Properties:
Manufacturer Hitachi-LG
Device Type DVD+RW/DVD-RW/DVD-RAM
Interface ATAPI

Writing Speeds:
DVD+R 8x
DVD+RW 4x
DVD-R 8x
DVD-RW 4x
DVD-RAM 3x
CD-R 24x
CD-RW 16x

Reading Speeds:
DVD-ROM 8x
CD-ROM 24x

Here is LG's page on the drive, but it doesn't look to offer any specs: LINK

Also, it looks like ZipZoomFly sells a similar drive (GMA-4080N):
http://zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail ... ode=174231
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#9 Post by Ariel » Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:48 am

But - Lenovo build NOT the same DVD-Writer in ALL Z60m - Modells ???

Or would you say, my Dealer is a Liar?

I think, I/we must wait since we have this Hardware in our Hands :wink:

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#10 Post by fbrdphreak » Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:59 am

They may use a couple of different makes/models, but the features will be all the same. I will contact my Lenovo guy and ask :)
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#11 Post by snife » Wed Nov 02, 2005 4:36 am

Ariel wrote: Or would you say, my Dealer is a Liar?
Yes! either that or he just doesn't know what he is talking about - i'll leave the choice up to you.

Both drives that you get with the Z60m will burn +R media - no doubts!

On the link you listed for the UltraBaySlim drive - you will notice that the burner says DVD Multi on the top - all new drives say DVD Multi + indicating the new + write support.

The reason older drives never burned DVD+ media was political and not economical - IBM backed the DVD- so they made sure that the drives didn't support DVD+, and if they did, disabled it. Everything is a bit more friendly now between the 2 standards so most drives now ship supporting both.

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#12 Post by fbrdphreak » Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:28 am

Talked with my Lenovo guy. There may be diff brands of DVDRW in the Z60m's, but all of them have the same specs. 8x DVD+/-RW
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#13 Post by Ariel » Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:40 pm

Today on the Site http://www5.pc.ibm.com/de/products.nsf/ ... re=UH3FKGE are more Details:
On two nearly identical Modells stands different Specs for Optical Unit / Optische Einheit:
___________________Z60m, 1680x1050TFT__/____ Z60m, 1680x1050TFT
______Optical Unit:___DVD Recordable______/_____8X Max
Optical Unit Speed:___8X Max______________/_____8X Max

:shock:

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#14 Post by fbrdphreak » Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:48 pm

Its probably just a confusion in specs or listing. All Z60m DVDRW's burn and read DVD+/-RW. Moving on
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#15 Post by Ariel » Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:58 pm

Yes, on another Site stand 'DVD Recordable'
--> http://www5.pc.ibm.com/de/products.nsf/ ... enDocument

PS: The actual Info i have, is that the z60m comes with the LG ..4080N which dont (only) support the Dual-Layer Standard!

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