T43 display gives me a headache. . .

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Whyme · #31 Post by **Whyme** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 10:53 am

Roy_W wrote:Have you tried connecting an external monitor in order to determine if the problem lies with the Graphics card or with the LCD.

If you have the opportunity to connect an external monitor can you take a photo, preferably in a darkened room, of the CRT and the LCD running the same image at the same time in order that we can see the difference.

Good idea. I'll do that today.

Whyme · #32 Post by **Whyme** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:08 pm

Ok, I spoke with Tech Support. They recommend that I replace the unit.

Oh well. I really hope the new one is better. I love the computer otherwise.

Thanks for all the help.
I'll let you know what happens with the new one.

davidspalding · #33 Post by **davidspalding** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 3:19 pm

Whyme, try the following to ease eye strain on (example) a 14" display at 1450 resolution. I do some of these as the display on my 2668 is so clear, high res, that seeing things can be tough.

Select a color scheme that doesn't use bright whites. Make your own, and save in the Display properties control panel.

Disable ClearType fone enhancement, use standard. Cleartype sometimes makes letters fuzzier due to it's use of color for anti-aliasing. I stick with the old standard font smoothing. ClearType gives ME a headache.

Disable shadows under desktop fonts. You can find this under My Computer | properties | Advanced | performance | Visual effects.

Use enlarged fonts. Under Display properties, Settings tab, click Advanced and under the General tab you can use enlarged fonts. 125% works for most people, but I'm prone to set it to 110% or 115%.

Hope that helps....

ddutta · #34 Post by **ddutta** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 10:39 pm

On my T43, cleartype makes is worse. I like without cleartype and large fonts. And its a pleasure to use my SXGA+ display.

Else I do suffer from eye strain too.

davidspalding · #35 Post by **davidspalding** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:19 am

Shame on me for not giving an example. In my color schemes, the "white" I use is (RGB) 255, 250, 240. You can go 255, 250, 192 for text in CMD windows and such if that's still too "white."

Smiley · #36 Post by **Smiley** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 11:43 am

[quote="jeffcrilly"][quote]The fonts thing is driving me nuts but I don't think that would cause it. I've changed dpi size but many are still real small. [/quote]

In the browser under (I beleive "view") you can change the font sized used by pages - with the browser its all relative. I've noticed that the DPI, in some cases, has no effect on web page fonts.[/quote]
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If you're using Internet Explorer, no matter what large dpi setting you choose, many websites still show the same tiny fonts; e.g. cnn.com as well as this thinkpads.com. So, I changed to Mozilla Firefox where you can dramatically enlarge the font of all websites. In Firefox, go to:
Tools/Options/Font&Color/select your Minimum Font Size.

There, you have other choices in pixel sizes too.
In my case, I chose min font 17 pixels, and now the fonts in all websites are much larger, clearer, and in many cases, they are a bit darkened (made bold).

Try it and you'll be surprised.

Whyme · #37 Post by **Whyme** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:43 pm

Thanks for all the tips. I'm still waiting to get my new 15" with SXGA. It appears to be held up in customs by the FDA.

Hopefully I'll have it by the end of the week.

Whyme · #38 Post by **Whyme** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:38 pm

I got my T43 today!
I love this thing.

About the screen, the font size is better but what would be perfect is an SXGA (this is an SXGA+).

I haven't had a chance to try configuring the display yet. But I am getting a headache so it wasn't a bad screen on the last one. I guess I'm sensitive to something about them.

#39 Post by **GomJabbar** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 2:32 am

Whyme wrote:I got my T43 today!

I haven't had a chance to try configuring the display yet. But I am getting a headache so it wasn't a bad screen on the last one. I guess I'm sensitive to something about them.

Maybe you should reread my first post on this thread

Whyme · #40 Post by **Whyme** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 3:14 pm

GomJabbar wrote:
Whyme wrote:I got my T43 today!

I haven't had a chance to try configuring the display yet. But I am getting a headache so it wasn't a bad screen on the last one. I guess I'm sensitive to something about them.
Maybe you should reread my first post on this thread

That's a great idea but I just did that a few months ago. Plus, I don't have this problem with any other computer I work on. It has to be something in the way they light up the screen that I'm sensitive to. I guess I'll just keep a bottle of aspirin next to my laptop from now on.

pae77 · #41 Post by **pae77** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 4:52 pm

I found that playing around with quickgamma, and the ATI software color controls seems to have made my display a lot better and easier to look at. I'm not sure I adjusted it correctly but it is definitely easier on my eyes now.

#42 Post by **Kyocera** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:13 pm

http://www.poynton.com/notes/reducing_eyestrain/

Check out this link, might be good for everyone.

EDIT: I just saw a link in the article back to Lenovo, small world.

Whyme · #43 Post by **Whyme** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 8:09 pm

Good find Kyocera. I'm going to begin my display fiddling tomorrow. I've been too busy the last two days so I've literally had a bottle of aspirin next to me to stop the headaches.

davidspalding · #44 Post by **davidspalding** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 1:22 am

Not sure if this has been covered, but have you enabled font smoothing with ClearType in XP? (Display properties, appearance, effects.) I don't like it. It works *pretty well* on these fine LCDs, but essentially it uses color tricks to "fuzz up" the font. I prefer the old ("Standard") font smoothing method. Frankly, the "fuzzy" fonts make my eyes a bit tired sooner.

Whyme · #45 Post by **Whyme** » Sun Nov 27, 2005 12:33 pm

Well, I've adjusted all of the settings mentioned in this thread and I still seem to be getting eye strain which leads to a headache.

It's not the fonts because no matter how big they are I still get it. I've used a grey background to counter the white but it still happens. I've put the contracts, brightness and gamma really low too.

I'm beginning to think I have some sort of sensitivity to the florescent bulbs used by the screen.

I'm going to use it for another week to see if my eyes can get used to it.

Thanks for all the suggestions.

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