Does anyone else have slowness with PDF's?

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Does anyone else have slowness with PDF's?

#1 Post by Jmmmmm » Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:42 pm

For some reason, PDF's perform extremely slowly on my t43. This computer has more (and faster) ram, and a faster processor than my old one (a dell 5150), but some things seems to run a lot slower, particularly adobe acrobat. Opening pdf's up isn't too bad, but closing them takes forever. And I'm not talking about 5-10 seconds, but more like 30 seconds, which is really annoying. It is a significant difference.

Is this something with the p-M processor? Does anyone else have this problem, or is it just me? If it's just me, which I would be surprised about, is there anything I can do to help this.
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#2 Post by christopher_wolf » Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:51 pm

Are you using the Latest version of Acrobat Reader? (Around 7.01)

Also, viewing them in Firefox or IE with the Adobe Plugin is a bad idea on connections you are unsure of; even connections for which you know you have good connectivity. I ran into this problem maybe once, then never again. Maximum time it took for me to open up a 25MB *.pdf file was maybe 8 seconds. I would recommend downloading most, if not all, of the *.pdf files that you want to view. BTW, I just noticed how close your Model and System Specs are to mine. :)
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#3 Post by edelrc » Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:25 pm

Adobe keeps maintaining that with the new v7 the loads are much faster. For many files, i did notice an improvement, but for other a deep decrease in performance.

Adobe current version is 7.0.5 and it is a 20MB download. It will use more than 61MB on your HDD.
I cannot accept a 60MB load on my PC with an application that just “reads”... it is inadmissible. Adobe Acrobat reader has just become a mastodon and during the last 4 years has increase in size exponentially. I also have detected causing problem in many PCs with its plug_ins folder.

However, it should not take 30s to close any file. You probably have some problem with your installation. Best guess it is to delete your profile first at C:\Documents and Settings\XXX\Local Settings\Application Data\Adobe\Acrobat\7.0. Adobe will recreate it at next use. If problem persist, uninstall, delete profile and reinstall.

Since 3 months ago, however I had been recommending for most users of pdf files to use the free Foxit.( http://www.download.com/Foxit-PDF-Reade ... ag=lst-0-1)
- It is less than 1MB.
- No installation neeeded… (no dlls… or weird things on System32 directory.)
- Reads virtually all pdf.
- And best of all… it is FAST.

For the vast majority of users, I don´t know why bother with Acrobat Reader.

(Of course, your Thinkpad it is not at fault for those 30s. :wink: )
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#4 Post by kyrotech » Thu Nov 03, 2005 8:49 pm

Foxit, nice tip :)

Yeah I always download the PDF before opening within internet explorer / firefox. When I dont, even if you close the browser window witht the PDF, the acrobat process will take ages to close :evil:
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#5 Post by Jmmmmm » Thu Nov 03, 2005 9:07 pm

edelrc wrote:...Since 3 months ago, however I had been recommending for most users of pdf files to use the free Foxit.( http://www.download.com/Foxit-PDF-Reade ... ag=lst-0-1)
- It is less than 1MB.
- No installation neeeded… (no dlls… or weird things on System32 directory.)
- Reads virtually all pdf.
- And best of all… it is FAST.

For the vast majority of users, I don´t know why bother with Acrobat Reader.

(Of course, your Thinkpad it is not at fault for those 30s. :wink: )
Wow thanks, Foxit is so much faster. And, it doesn't open up in the browswer anymore, which I hated. I see that I could probably have changed it, but regardless, foxit is a big improvement. First microsoft and now adobe - go firefox! Problems solved.
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#6 Post by motodude » Fri Nov 04, 2005 12:36 am

I have a 300MB file that takes about 5 sec to open and 1 to close, this is on my T42, so I don't think your problem is the puter.
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#7 Post by Kenn » Fri Nov 04, 2005 1:19 am

Closing a PDF on my system takes a 10-20 seconds if I view it embedded n Firefox. It's pretty fast in Acrobat proper.

Also, Acrobat Pro 6 and Reader are SLOW to load because it loads a bunch of mostly worthless filters on startup. I removed most of them pursuant to this post, and it now takes 2-3 seconds to load up - huge difference!

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=11041

I think it's time to upgrade to 7 though...time to get rid of this 6.0 bloatware
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#8 Post by Initial D » Fri Nov 04, 2005 2:31 am

PDFs close within a second on my machine (whether it be using the Reader itself or within Firefox). Just curious, did you ever format your computer?
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#9 Post by monkey243 » Fri Nov 04, 2005 3:57 am

I use Acrobat 6.0 standard.it take about 10 seconds to load Acrobat 6.0 standard.when it load up.it just take less than 1 second to open a 133MB PDF,while closign less than 1 second too.
may be something was wrong on you Acrobat reader or the operating system.
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#10 Post by w0qj » Fri Nov 04, 2005 4:07 am

edelrc wrote:...

I had been recommending for most users of pdf files to use the free Foxit. ( http://www.download.com/Foxit-PDF-Reade ... ag=lst-0-1)
- It is less than 1MB.
- No installation neeeded… (no dlls… or weird things on System32 directory.)
- Reads virtually all pdf.
- And best of all… it is FAST.
...

***Does Foxit PDF Reader support Acrobat v7.0's Enter text into the text box functions? If it does, i would definitely give it a shot...

Please advise. tks!

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#11 Post by dsvochak » Fri Nov 04, 2005 10:51 am

Adobe Reader Speedup (available free at

http://www.tnk-bootblock.co.uk/prods/misc/

accomplishes the same thing as Kenn's link but, to some extent, allows you to choose the plug-ins to disable.
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#12 Post by Temetka » Fri Nov 04, 2005 11:23 pm

Thanks for the tip on Foxit. That program is rather swift on my T23.

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#13 Post by MadeInJapan » Sat Nov 05, 2005 9:42 pm

I like the Foxit too and it reads Japanese PDF's which is a real plus. Is there anyway for it to open in the browser window like Adobe? I'd like to use it completely and get rid of Adobe if I could.
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#14 Post by Kyocera » Sun Nov 06, 2005 12:53 pm

dsvochak, thanks for that tip, I have hundreds of tech manuals on PDF. What a boost.

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#15 Post by edelrc » Sun Nov 06, 2005 3:29 pm

Indeed. For those who need Adobe Reader, Adobe Reader Speed-up is a good companion. What it does it to load those basic plugins only. Barely ever you will use any other plugin...

This year I have seem many PCs also no be able to open Adobe Reader files. We identify that the problem is with the Plug_in folder that Adobe has. No solution was yet found for these affected PCs. A workaround was either to remove the Plug_in folder altogether (Adobe will still work fine) or to use these Adobe Reader Speed-up.

Again, Foxit. still looks like a better solution for those that do not want 60MB+ on their drives or whose ThinkPads are getting older. Either way, or Foxit (http://www.download.com/Foxit-PDF-Reade ... ag=lst-0-1) or Speed-up (http://www.tnk-bootblock.co.uk/getfile.php?id=arsu), they are totally safe applications because noting is installed whatsoever.
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#16 Post by dsvochak » Sun Nov 06, 2005 5:46 pm

w0qj asked:
Does Foxit PDF Reader support Acrobat v7.0's Enter text into the text box functions?
Version 1.3 allows you to use it as a typewriter, with some limitations. Apparently you can enter text and print but not save files in the free version. 1.3 is available at http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/pdfedit.zip

I tried it on some Michigan pdf "type-able" court forms. Foxit works, but not quite as well as Acrobat Reader. Checking boxes with Foxit, for example, requires you to move the cursor and enter a check or "x". With Acrobat Reader you just click on the box and a check mark is entered.

I don't think it would be a big deal unless you were filling in pdf forms a lot.
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#17 Post by w0qj » Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:37 am

dsvochak wrote:...
Version 1.3 allows you to use it as a typewriter, with some limitations. Apparently you can enter text and print but not save files in the free version. ...

Thanks a lot for your help!
Much appreciated...

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