Thinkpad Fan Noise Problem: Light at the End of the Tunnel

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simms · #361 Post by **simms** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 7:16 pm

amgdoc wrote:
GpsPasSion wrote:Great proggie ! Any chance we can get that "service" version ?
Also is there an undervolting program that plays nice with Fan Control ? NHC seems to be interfering with it with 'Warning: Can't read Status (possible conflict with other software)" messages ?

just turn off the sensor readings in NHC to allow it to work with FC. i have and FC is reading the temp with no errors. why would you want both programs to monitor temp anyway? just let FC do the monitoring since it is in charge of cooling.

or you could try RMclock as tincbtrar suggested. i have not tried it before and it might give you what you are looking for.

I can confirm that RMClock with FC works just fine. Plus RM clock does throttling, which NHC doesn't do (yet).

davedave · #362 Post by **davedave** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 11:14 pm

I found out that the T40 fan is has a buzz unlike just the regular whir of a T42 which i previoulsy had. I was wondering if there is a lower setting to maybe get RPM's of 2000 or so? I have a 1.3, so for just cruzin the net, it usually cycles between low speed and off. I cannot stand this buzz, I might try to swap a newer style fan in that is smoother.

Tinus · #363 Post by **Tinus** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:03 pm

Hi,
I also hear a fan-like noisy sound in my new z60-2529 EPG.
Great notebook...but what is this soft-noise with every movement of the HD?
After I tried the fancontrol-tool succesfully (!), and set the fan speed back to zero, the fan (on the right side) was indeed not spinning..but the sound still was present (???)
The guys at Lenovo told me there is only 1 fan in this machine. What is this sound then? Is it the HD ? From above it looks like it come from the left side, under the keys.
When I set my power-management on 'turn off HD after three minutes' and waited for this moment: no HD activation, but still this sound.
Anyone reconize this problem? Any idea what's in the z60 making noises?

Martijn
The Netherlands

Tinus · #364 Post by **Tinus** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:30 pm

I'm sorry...must be wrong coordination:

The fan is at the left side, and is very quiet (and stops running after set to zero with fancontrol) But...
The sound still seems to come from the right side....

sugo · #365 Post by **sugo** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:47 pm

Tinus wrote: Anyone reconize this problem? Any idea what's in the z60 making noises?

Most likely the hard drive. Which brand/model of drive does your z60 have?

Tinus · #366 Post by **Tinus** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:52 am

It's a
'Hitachi Travelstar 5K100 80Go Serial-ATA (HTS541080G9SA00)'
Any suggestions to check this (manually turn off HD?)

Martijn

sugo · #367 Post by **sugo** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:09 am

In Control Panel -> Power Options, you can set it to turn off hard drive after 3 minutes of idle time. After that close all applications and wait for 3 minutes. It should power off.

emaijala · #368 Post by **emaijala** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:37 am

sorry about my slowliness. Here's a link to the service version with source code and exe: http://www.kolumbus.fi/emaijala/fancontrol_service.zip. Please let me if you have any issues. It's not very nicely packaged, just the source plus exe so you need at least WinIo.sys and WinIo.dll from the original package.

--Ere

Tinus · #369 Post by **Tinus** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:16 am

In Control Panel -> Power Options, you can set it to turn off hard drive after 3 minutes of idle time. After that close all applications and wait for 3 minutes. It should power off.

I already tried this as mentioned above. However, no difference notible.
But: since my HD crashed a few minutes ago, I now know for sure that the HD was making the stationary noise.
It crashes with the Hitachi Feature Tool. To be specific:
after I set the Advanced Power Management down to minimal, the HD crashed, didn't boot, but only 'clicked' a bit scarry.
Before the crash, I did try other settings though. Acoustic Level etc. After every change I made with the tool the noise stopped for a while..and started again.
So, Lenovo sent me a 'new' HD. Hope this one will be quiet, else need to buy a Seagate I think. Thanks for your help, though.

Martijn

leif · #370 Post by **leif** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:16 am

This program is great!!!

I bought my T43 1 week ago. Its type is BH2(PM 2.0 1G(I added 512MB) 80G). Every thing is going on pretty good. I never thought the noise from the fan is a serious problem except I saw your posts. To be honest, I think the speed of 3183 RPM won't make the annoying noise. The noise from the HDD is even bigger than that from the fan. So I use the configuaration:

Level=48 0
Level=52 1
Level=56 4
Level=60 7
Level=70 128

IgnoreSensors=PWR,YYY,ZZZ

With my observation, the temperature of PWR isn't the critical factor 'cause it won't rise much higher than orther components.
In normal time the fan just run at around 3183 RPM. It's quiet.

My tp's normal temperature is:
CPU 50 (0x78)
APS 48 (0x79)
PCM 39 (0x7a)
GPU 51 (0x7b)
BAT 36 (0x7c)
BAT 31 (0x7e)
BUS 48 (0xc0)
PCI 48 (0xc1)
PWR 51 (0xc2)

I wonder if this temperature is safe to my T43?

alins · #371 Post by **alins** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:16 pm

Very nice program - thank you!

Would be nice if it handled the pulsating fan problem too. Any plans for an update to incorporate this for Windowws XP (the Linux script apparently includes this hack)?

nikemen · #372 Post by **nikemen** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:25 pm

is there a primer on how to use, impliment this program? Wow, after being out of the country several months now I come back to the FAN issue being somewhat resolved!

kw · #373 Post by kw » Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:47 pm

@ere

after installing you're "special version" works very fine. No problems at auto-start after all.

Herr Yunta · #374 Post by **Herr Yunta** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:48 am

Not working on 2374-3HU T41, sxga+ Embedded Controller version 3.04, Bios version 3.19.

[2/9/2006 11:26:22 AM] Current Config:
[2/9/2006 11:26:22 AM] Active= 0, Cycle= 5, FanBeep= 1200 30, MaxReadErrors= 10
[2/9/2006 11:26:22 AM] IconLevels= 50 55 60, IgnoreSensors= XXX,YYY,ZZZ
[2/9/2006 11:26:22 AM] Levels= 47°C -> 0, 50°C -> 3, 55°C -> 4, 60°C -> 7, 70°C -> 0x80
[2/9/2006 11:26:54 AM] Fan: 0x80 / Highest: 46°C (44 41 33 46 30 n/a 24 n/a 0 0 0 0)
[2/9/2006 11:26:54 AM] Smart: Set fan control to 0x00, Result: CMD IGNORED (PASSIVE MODE)
[2/9/2006 11:26:54 AM] Fan: 0x80 / Highest: 46°C (44 41 33 46 30 n/a 24 n/a 0 0 0 0)
[2/9/2006 11:26:54 AM] Smart: Set fan control to 0x00, Result: CMD IGNORED (PASSIVE MODE)
[2/9/2006 11:26:55 AM] Fan: 0x80 / Highest: 46°C (44 41 33 46 30 n/a 24 n/a 0 0 0 0)
[2/9/2006 11:26:55 AM] Smart: Set fan control to 0x00, Result: CMD IGNORED (PASSIVE MODE)
[2/9/2006 11:26:56 AM] Fan: 0x80 / Highest: 46°C (44 41 33 46 30 n/a 24 n/a 0 0 0 0)
[2/9/2006 11:26:56 AM] Smart: Set fan control to 0x00, Result: CMD IGNORED (PASSIVE MODE)
[2/9/2006 11:26:56 AM] Fan: 0x80 / Highest: 46°C (44 41 33 46 30 n/a 24 n/a 0 0 0 0)
[2/9/2006 11:26:56 AM] Smart: Set fan control to 0x00, Result: CMD IGNORED (PASSIVE MODE)

GeorgeP · #375 Post by **GeorgeP** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 12:12 pm

emaijala wrote:sorry about my slowliness. Here's a link to the service version with source code and exe

I have what is no doubt a dumb question: What is meant by "service version" and what are the benefits?

Also to run this, do I just substitute the exe with the one in Markus' v.18 distribution?

G

nikemen · #376 Post by **nikemen** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 12:15 pm

So, this thingy works GREAT!!

TP T41
2373-4gu.

don't have all the bios versions, but the thing works fine, my legs are getting Warm!

kw · #377 Post by kw » Thu Feb 09, 2006 2:12 pm

@GeorgeP: until now you had to start Markus' version with autostart or the taskscheduler. With Eres version you can start the fan-tool as a running service. For this you have to run the fantool_service.exe with the parameter -i once. After that fantool is installed as service.

GeorgeP · #378 Post by **GeorgeP** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 2:47 pm

kw wrote:@GeorgeP: until now you had to start Markus' version with autostart or the taskscheduler. With Eres version you can start the fan-tool as a running service. For this you have to run the fantool_service.exe with the parameter -i once. After that fantool is installed as service.

Thanks, but I'm still unclear on the advantage to running as a service vs autostart.

G

kw · #379 Post by kw » Thu Feb 09, 2006 2:57 pm

With autotstart/taskscheduler I had this "missing winio.sys driver..blabla" error but not at service.

GeorgeP · #380 Post by **GeorgeP** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 3:06 pm

I see. Thanks.

Em1 · #381 Post by **Em1** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:39 pm

First off, I'd like to express my gratitude. I recently bought an old T23 and have been searching for this type of program for a couple of weeks. I ran across this thread via a search. My problem is that my thinkpad gets too hot and then the fan comes on full blast and is really loud. Now w/ the program I can manually keep the fan on while at home.

But the fan is still too loud to use in the library or in class. I've tried turning the fan on level 2, pretty silent, from power on but eventually the thinkpad heats up and I'm forced to bump the level to the loud 3-7 levels.

christopher_wolf · #382 Post by **christopher_wolf** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:36 am

Em1 wrote:First off, I'd like to express my gratitude. I recently bought an old T23 and have been searching for this type of program for a couple of weeks. I ran across this thread via a search. My problem is that my thinkpad gets too hot and then the fan comes on full blast and is really loud. Now w/ the program I can manually keep the fan on while at home.

But the fan is still too loud to use in the library or in class. I've tried turning the fan on level 2, pretty silent, from power on but eventually the thinkpad heats up and I'm forced to bump the level to the loud 3-7 levels.

Welcome to the Thinkpad Forums

Well, first off, you might want to see how hot your CPU gets, NHC should work. If it is really that hot, you should put some Artic Silver on the CPU and clean the fan out some.

lvlolvlo · #383 Post by **lvlolvlo** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:35 am

just ran it on a 2669PDU and as long as you don't set it to BIOS mode or SMART mode it works like a charm

marcos · #384 Post by **marcos** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:03 pm

Same here, reads values fine on the machine in my signature, but in smart mode produce errors:

Looks like theT42 doesn't have all BUS, PWR and PCI sensors...

[24-Feb-06 10:49:03 PM] Current Config:
[24-Feb-06 10:49:03 PM] Active= 0, Cycle= 5, FanBeep= 1200 30, MaxReadErrors= 10
[24-Feb-06 10:49:03 PM] IconLevels= 50 55 60, IgnoreSensors= XXX,YYY,ZZZ
[24-Feb-06 10:49:03 PM] Levels= 47°C -> 0, 50°C -> 3, 55°C -> 4, 60°C -> 7, 70°C -> 0x80

[24-Feb-06 10:49:19 PM] Fan: 0x80 / Highest: 49°C (49 41 29 47 31 n/a 29 n/a 0 0 0 0)
[24-Feb-06 10:49:19 PM] Smart: Set fan control to 0x00, Result: CMD IGNORED (PASSIVE MODE)

ryan42 · #385 Post by **ryan42** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 12:03 pm

Hello. The program seems to be working okay on my ThinkPad T43p 2687D5U. However the fan goes much faster than the max setting when it's starting up and also if I set it to a high setting it goes thre then gradually slows much slower.

When it's on a low setting though I can hear it doing something very annoying... It runs steady and "bursts" maybe a few RPMS up and falls back down every so often.

Thanks for any ideas and whatnot!
--Ryan

christopher_wolf · #386 Post by **christopher_wolf** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:34 pm

That seems to be the pulsing problem; have only encountered it a few times, but toggling the power schemes and/or flipping FCU to BIOS-Manual-Smart Mode several time seems to do the trick of getting rid of it.

The Level 7 fan setting should produce constant RPM; somewhere around 4668 if I remember correctly.

HTH

ryan42 · #387 Post by **ryan42** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 7:39 pm

7 isn't constant for me. 64 isn't even constant. Thought it gets up to 6067 RPM very slowly. The computer still makes more noise when it turns on. Not that I want it loud. I am just concerned that leaving this in charge of the fan could get things jaberwocky. This is a 2687D5U again...

christopher_wolf · #388 Post by **christopher_wolf** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 7:49 pm

The fan RPM has a tendancy to jitter about somewhat and the FCU polls the system within a certain interval (5 seconds if I remember correctly); how much is it varying?

ryan42 · #389 Post by **ryan42** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 8:38 pm

Level 7 starts about 6300 RPM then floats down to about 4600 RPM. So... quite a bit.

ryan42 · #390 Post by **ryan42** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 8:40 pm

and FWIW level 64 stops at 6300 about as well.

Thinkpad Fan Noise Problem: Light at the End of the Tunnel

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