Thinkpad Fan Noise Problem: Light at the End of the Tunnel

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GLR · #481 Post by **GLR** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:07 pm

Thank you for this very useful utility !
Works great on my T43 2668-VBD...

xpowers · #482 Post by **xpowers** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 3:33 pm

Well done! Thank you!

blaeks · #483 Post by **blaeks** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:19 am

my current temperagtures are
36 celsius for CPU
38 celsius for HDD

and fan is running at first speed I think...
it always changes its speed from low to mid, sometimes fast...

did anyone tryed fancontrol on R51e???

bios is updated
embeded controler updated
now I am updating its radeon X200, may be the couse is in the gpu...

agarza · #484 Post by **agarza** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 11:09 pm

Is it possible to maintain idling a T41p machine, CPU undervolted with 0.716V, GPU undervolted (70MHz core and memory) to have the CPU a temp of 37C without the fan off for more than 5 hours at least?

In order to reduce the CPU temp on my T41p to less than 45C I've to activate the fan, Level 1 on TPFanControl. Considering my laptop have a special thermal compound (Zalman Super Thermal Grease) the CPU temp should be lower, I think, isn't it?

Talon88 · #485 Post by **Talon88** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:58 pm

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Good & bad news.

Try TPFanControl v0.18-Service on my Z60T (Intel 915 VGA).
Smart Mode & Manual Set speed work! Good.

The Only Problem is, It keep logging "acpiec Warning"
at Windows Event, Like 30+ / Sec. Rate.

Any Solution for this problem? If this can Solve,
It's a very useful utility for our Thinkpad!

:::

dsigma6 · #486 Post by **dsigma6** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 12:30 am

Just in case any T23 users were nervous about the worrisome fan level 64, I have had no trouble with it whatsoever. It took a few glasses of SoCo to get me to do it, but outside of the increased fan noise, I suffered no ill effects. It took my CPU down to about 30C while running a P2P program, with APS and PCM around 35C. I imagine an idling system would have yielded most temperatures at or around 30C.

6500RPM is a beautiful thing.

Musti · #487 Post by **Musti** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 4:38 am

Talon88 wrote::::

Good & bad news.

Try TPFanControl v0.18-Service on my Z60T (Intel 915 VGA).
Smart Mode & Manual Set speed work! Good.

The Only Problem is, It keep logging "acpiec Warning"
at Windows Event, Like 30+ / Sec. Rate.

Any Solution for this problem? If this can Solve,
It's a very useful utility for our Thinkpad!

:::

http://winhlp.com/WxACPIEC.htm

The only working solution at this time is "hacking" the ACPIEC.sys so it will not populate the system event log.

rgds.

Musti · #488 Post by **Musti** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 4:41 am

dsigma6 wrote: 6500RPM is a beautiful thing.

Yikes, that reminds me of my previous computer...(Apple PowerBook G4 "Titanium"). That one was a blow dryer. /me hugs his TP.

troubadix · #489 Post by **troubadix** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 4:55 pm

Hi!

Musti wrote: The only working solution at this time is "hacking" the ACPIEC.sys so it will not populate the system event log.

I implemented an easy option for that in my package at my signature.

Ciao, troubadix

Talon88 · #490 Post by **Talon88** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 4:10 am

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Thanks troubadix,

I am going to try....!

Edit:
Confirm, Got it all Work on my Z60t.
Error log stopped as well......!

Following is my Control Setting,
What do you guys think?

// --------------------------------------------------------

Active=2

// --------------------------------------------------------

Cycle=5

// --------------------------------------------------------

MinimizeToSysTray=1

// --------------------------------------------------------

MinimizeOnClose=1

// --------------------------------------------------------

StartMinimized=1
DisableClose=1

// --------------------------------------------------------

IconLevels=55 65 70

// --------------------------------------------------------

FanBeep=1200 3

// --------------------------------------------------------

MaxReadErrors= 10

// --------------------------------------------------------

IgnoreSensors=X79,APS

// --------------------------------------------------------

Level=48 0
Level=51 1
Level=55 2
Level=65 3
Level=70 6
Level=75 64

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Keithj · #491 Post by **Keithj** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 10:31 am

Being nothing if not brave, and my trusty faithful R31 having taken to shutting down occasionally, accompanied by the smell of frying eggs

and SpeedFan 4.29 not giving meaningful answers ...

I tried Fancontrol.

On an R31 it reports only one temperature, which it thinks is CPU. That seems to be fixed at 80 C at the moment. The fan tends to run all the time, speeding up occasionally if I do something processor-intensive.

I'm not going to go the next step of trying to speed up the fan unless I get more heat problems - it's been fine for the past few days. Maybe the blast of clean air through the fan vent is all it needed.

Outstanding website - I only just found it (after 15 years with a variety of ThinkPads). Wish I'd known sooner!

troubadix · #492 Post by **troubadix** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:42 pm

Hi!

@Keithj: ...very british

update:

now the option "acpiec_error_log_off" works even with T23 und A30.

My settings for T23:
IconLevels=65 85 95
Level=55 0
Level=65 1
Level=85 7
Level=95 64

and for A30:
IconLevels=75 85 90
Level=75 0
Level=85 3
Level=90 64

...real hot shots

Ciao, troubadix

christopher_wolf · #493 Post by **christopher_wolf** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:19 pm

Keith...

Those are some pretty high temps to be getting in an R31. Dust buildup would be the logical assumption but 80°C is still getting up there in temps.

What are the kind of jobs done on idle on that R31?

Keithj · #494 Post by **Keithj** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 5:30 am

troubadix wrote: @Keithj: ...very british

Einfach, auch. Wird nicht leicht vergessen.

christopher_wolf wrote: Those are some pretty high temps to be getting in an R31. Dust buildup would be the logical assumption but 80°C is still getting up there in temps.

What are the kind of jobs done on idle on that R31?

I don't think I believe the 80°C, because it's absolutely stable, whereas the fan comes and goes, and SpeedFan 4.29 shows different results and a changing temperature. FanControl shows 80°C and SpeedFan says 40°C at the moment: I switched on ten minutes ago.

The laptop doesn't run any jobs on idle (apart from the standard stuff that all XP machines do). System Idle is around 94-95% pretty much all the time.

dsigma6 · #495 Post by **dsigma6** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:36 am

troubadix wrote: My settings for T23:
IconLevels=65 85 95
Level=55 0
Level=65 1
Level=85 7
Level=95 64

and for A30:
IconLevels=75 85 90
Level=75 0
Level=85 3
Level=90 64

Are you for real??

I have my yellow and red temp warnings coming on at 60 and 65!

The whole point of this program, for me anyway, was not to have my ThinkPad going anywhere near 70C. I guess you like it hot!

troubadix · #496 Post by **troubadix** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:01 am

@dsigma6

of tpfancontrol the advantage is you're able to decide, if you like it hot (and silent

) or cool (and noisy

). So far no probs with hot settings (checking by WinXP scientific calculator 99999999999!=?, 100% load as long as you want).

btw: fanlevel 1 in T23 (no function i. e. in A30

) is obviously not used by BIOS fan control, it's merely to hear with ~2000rpm, but cooling well when running no resource intensive applications as office progs.

Ciao, troubadix

christopher_wolf · #497 Post by **christopher_wolf** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:00 pm

Keithj wrote: I don't think I believe the 80°C, because it's absolutely stable, whereas the fan comes and goes, and SpeedFan 4.29 shows different results and a changing temperature. FanControl shows 80°C and SpeedFan says 40°C at the moment: I switched on ten minutes ago.

Have you tried reading the temp with MobileMeter or NHC and seeing what that says?

lord jim · #498 Post by **lord jim** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 2:13 am

Hallo everybody.
Just started to experiment with fancontrol and NHC
Have quite a few can’t read EC status; have set NHC monitoring interval to 15sec. and FC to 6 sec. To my way of understanding that should somehow allow FC and NHC miss each other while accessing EC.
There is one thing I am a bit confused though, EC read me file says if EC crash when fan is OFF it will stay OFF, what is of course hot situation. Still rebooting should get things back to normal ( BIOS fan control), right or wrong? If right then problem is really just a small nuisance provided it does not happen too often.
Can anybody confirm, or if wrong explain why.
Thanks in advance.

christopher_wolf · #499 Post by **christopher_wolf** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 3:12 am

If you reboot, the EC simply manages the fan again as normal. It really isn't a big deal unless you are getting the system hot for an extended period of time in which you really need the fan.

lord jim · #500 Post by **lord jim** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:42 am

Thanks for confirmation christopher_wolf
All the warnings in the readme file sounded to destructive, so I figured, I better be safe than sorry.
Wouldn’t want to loose “The Last of the Mohican” i.e. “The Last of the IBM”

Keithj · #501 Post by **Keithj** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 3:32 pm

christopher_wolf wrote: Have you tried reading the temp with MobileMeter or NHC and seeing what that says?

Thanks for that - I hadn't, but I have now. They both give identical readings - different from fancontrol (which always shows 80 C, even immediately on switch-on). Speedfan gives similar results, but over a wider range: the lows are lower, the highs are higher.

The chip temperature seems to go up and down randomly and rapidly between about 50 C and 90 C. I watched it for about ten minutes; at one point it went from 90 to 55 in about ten seconds, which amused me. I suspect whatever senses the chip temperature (or reports it) is defunct.

If I feel the case round the chip area, it's normally just warm to the touch. On the rare occasions that I hear the fan start, it feels a lot hotter.

I think I'll just leave it alone and let the fan take care of it. I back up regularly, so the excuse for a new machine wouldn't be all bad.

Musti · #502 Post by **Musti** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:00 pm

troubadix wrote:I implemented an easy option for that in my package at my signature.

Ciao, troubadix

Sehr schon, Vielen Dank!

troubadix · #503 Post by **troubadix** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 6:01 am

@Musti:

Gerne! Thanks for feedback! troubadix

Amigo-2k · #504 Post by **Amigo-2k** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 8:20 pm

Ok I got the program installed. How do if have it load every time I restart the system?

dsigma6 · #505 Post by **dsigma6** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 10:13 pm

Amigo-2k wrote:Ok I got the program installed. How do if have it load every time I restart the system?

It was mentioned by chrisaix on page 14 of this thread.

There is also another reference in this thread- http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.ph ... highlight=

I would use caution before running random services from random people.

golbasche · #506 Post by **golbasche** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 2:02 am

Thanks so much- my fan is so annoying

But, I have some trouble running the program
I set it to active and the screen pops up with everything running fine. However, the program has difficulty changing the fan on my computer.

Here is what happens-- I click on manual and set it to zero (off) to see if this works. It beeps right away. Then for about ten seconds nothing happens. Then the arrow key on my computer turns to the hourglass and the fan utility says (not responding). It will not change from that. I then pressed Ctl-Alt-Dlt and the program then changes the fan setting and the fan goes off. What I have found out so far is that it only changes after pressing Ctl-Alt-Dlt (thus it wont work on smart mode). Does anybody know what this could be?

T43 2679-UN4 Intel Pentium III M XP

after running on smart mode for five minutes this comes up:
Warning: Can't read Status (possible conflict with other software)
what software could it be?

dsigma6 · #507 Post by **dsigma6** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:51 am

golbasche wrote:after running on smart mode for five minutes this comes up:
Warning: Can't read Status (possible conflict with other software)
what software could it be?

First, if you have a T43 you definitely don't have a p3-m! Are you running mobilemeter or NHC to monitor HD and system temps? That would explain the error.

If you want, I can send you my fancontrol.ini file later today and see if it works for you. I'm also using a T43.

golbasche · #508 Post by **golbasche** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:26 am

dsigma6 wrote:
golbasche wrote:after running on smart mode for five minutes this comes up:
Warning: Can't read Status (possible conflict with other software)
what software could it be?
First, if you have a T43 you definitely don't have a p3-m! Are you running mobilemeter or NHC to monitor HD and system temps? That would explain the error.

If you want, I can send you my fancontrol.ini file later today and see if it works for you. I'm also using a T43.

sorry- not the greatest with computers
My device manager says i hava a Intel Pentium M Processor

I'm not running any of the programs you mentioned. If you can Id be glad to see if your .ini file works. Maybe that'll help. I dont know. If not, then I'm giving up on this. It's not that big a deal to me to spend this long on. But thanks so much for the help.

troubadix · #509 Post by **troubadix** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:17 pm

Hi,

just a version for the T60, usage at your own risk, have fun:

http://staff-www.uni-marburg.de/~schmit ... rv_t60.zip

Ciao, troubadix

Kinne · #510 Post by **Kinne** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 12:09 pm

Hi,

is there also a version for the R51E ?

Thinkpad Fan Noise Problem: Light at the End of the Tunnel

my fan on R51e newer stops

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