Thinkpad Fan Noise Problem: Light at the End of the Tunnel

[nikemen]

Question, so I have been using this since 2+ years ago, I only turn it on when I need it, meaning, I have it in a folder, my settings file, etc. and it runs great.

Now, I would like to install it on my X61 tablet, and just downloaded the .40 version, but it seems to want to install a whole BUNCH of stuff, borland language files, C++ files, not sure if that is for installs, or for reference.

Is there a way to keep it a simple NON service, just running in a folder when I click on it and need it?

Like now, the FAN is no since I have an external monitor setup, but I would love to silence the damb thing today!

[troubadix]

@nikemen:
.40 version:
1st: have ALL these little boxes at driver installation UNCHECKED
2nd: it's a non service version (double click on it!)

ciao, troubadix

[nikemen]

dude

you rock!

where is the paypal linky!!

[troubadix]

where is the paypal linky!!

nice idea I'm gonna add an item to icon menue next version, as Xmas gettin' nearer every day

ciao, troubadix

[troubadix]

Ok, here it is:

http://staff-www.uni-marburg.de/~schmitzr/tpfc_v041.zip

runs quick'n'clean in/out of the folder, 32/64bit, Celsius/Fahrenheit switching, service option available...and of course with the requested papal linky

Next month I'll be going to the Carribean ,

....so be gentle and donate

ciao, troubadix

edit: latest stable version v .33 (service, 32bit) at:
http://staff-www.uni-marburg.de/~schmit ... v_v033.zip

[badblood]

troubadix, will you marry me?

[thormdac]

many thanx troubadix!

installed the new version as service, taskmanager shows its been started, though no icon appears in task bar. (running vista 32 bus.)

any idea on that?

greetz

[badblood]

tpificon.exe ( used the one from v30 ) seems to work with this on service and I did get the icon in taskbar with temp showing. From my logs, it seems to be working with my settings but will be able to tell more later.

[troubadix]

troubadix, will you marry me?

I'am gonna think that over... meanwhile let's have a look at your bank account

taskmanager shows its been started, though no icon appears in task bar. (running vista 32 bus.)

badblood is right, running as service under vista you have to run tpfcicon.exe additionally . I put all these additional files neatly together in:
http://staff-www.uni-marburg.de/~schmitzr/tpfccopy.exe (as written in readme)

ciao, troubadix

[thormdac]

....so be patient ...

Been waiting for it all night long , simply doesnt come up!
thanx for ya help

[troubadix]

Been waiting for it all night long

Sorry, had to edit my last posting, wasn't correct , I did overlook you're running tpfc as service.

[thormdac]

...that sure is support on the fly!

I highly appreciate your...enthusiasm.
greetz
thormdac

p.s. ...and very handy this new installer-- makes life far more simple

[thormdac]

just one more thing:

accessing /starting tpfcicon, I only get a window showing the temperature-checks.

would like to access the old view, i.e. showing the menu with functional alteration!

should i just start tpfancontrol application again? once i do this i get the desired view.- but then again, no need to start it via service, right?
if that is the case, might as well just put a link into autostart and not install service, right?

many thanx again
greetz

[troubadix]

@thormdac: first: I do not run Vista

Under Vista services are isolated in session zero and not shown on desktop, for this reason we have tpfcicon, that should run without admin rights. Of course you can run fancontrol as program application with admin rights and you will have the old GUI. But I really don't know if any program link that needs admin rights in autostart folder will work, so have a try.

While tpfc is running as service, it will not run as program application, and vice versa, the port driver is blocked. So stop and uninstall, or set to manual the service first, then start program or put a link to autostart folder.

Please post your solution!

ciao, troubadix

[thormdac]

@thormdac: first: I do not run Vista

i aint sure how long I will keep on testing vista either!

I have disabled UAC!
So putting tpfcontrol in the startup folder works as desired.

Main reason i was asking: Any way of staying with the service version and the icon, but keeping the "old" gui

playing with the settings, i noticed when handing control back to bios, the fan is "stuttering" along.

in addition i find differences between service and normal version:

running service, handing control to bios, cools down to 45degrees.
running normal, handing control to bios, cools down to 50degrees.

greetz

[troubadix]

Any way of staying with the service version and the icon, but keeping the "old" gui

No Wonder why? Run fancontrol.exe in autostart folder. (as you do )

Disadvantage of an icon.exe controlling the running service: it had to be executed with admin rights (under engaged UAC )

Too many misunderstandings ok, now I added tpfcicon.exe to the general download pack, link in signature. Kept it before in:
http://staff-www.uni-marburg.de/~schmitzr/tpfccopy.exe

running service, handing control to bios, cools down to 45degrees.
running normal, handing control to bios, cools down to 50degrees.

It shouldn't do that , it's the same piece of code But I'll keep an eye on it.

ciao, troubadix

[badblood]

While tpfc is running as service, it will not run as program application, and vice versa, the port driver is blocked.

I am running v41 as service fine. But it will not block running tpfc as app. When I try running tpfc as app with tpfc as service already running, I get 2 copies of tpfc running: 1 showing in service and another showing as process in the task manager.

If I stop one instance of fancontrol, tpficon will disconnect from the tp server and connect to the other.
So apparently it's not blocked.

Might also be why Thormdac is getting 2 different results with one running as service and the other as normal. I'd guess that he has 2 different folders of fancontrol with different fancontrol.ini's?

Not a big deal for me, I just keep it as service. Would prefer the old gui but as everything is working I'm happy .

[thormdac]

dear troubadix,

havin started from scratch, fresh vista image, I notice the following, having double-checked it again:

my symptoms with the tpfc-icon solution plus running as service produces:

1.- when handing to bios a plus of 5degrees as mentioned earlier
2.- a fan rpm of about 3500, whereas bios runs at about 2900!
3.- changes in the settings are not resulting in the adequate response, i.e. temp icon always shows, regardless of setting it to "0"
as well as altering the fan level doesnt work, i.e level 1= 3500 rpm, as well as level 3=3500rpm

i am using your 0.41 out-of the folder-version, with a shortcut in "startup" to get it started, now without any hassles

nighty-night

[troubadix]

@badblood: running 2 instances of fancontrol, only one can read the temps , check the gui

@thormdac: tpfcicon.exe doesn't read the ini, ShowTempIcon=0 will only have effect on fancontrol

There are not so many fan speed levels as numbers between 0 and 7 (so 1=3 ) built in each and every TP controled by EC, they differ depending on model and they are not so numerous

go to http://www.thinkwiki.org search for >fan speed<

I will try to observe the other reported effects.

ciao, troubadix

[badblood]

@badblood: running 2 instances of fancontrol, only one can read the temps , check the gui

I was testing to see if it will lock other instances of fancontrol from running. and only the first instance read the temps - you're right.

Anyway I have couple questions:
At fan lvl 7 I get a fan rpm of 3200rpm. At lvl 64 I get 3300rpm. I thought 64 gets more than that , 4000+rpm no?

here's partial list of my log:

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time;cpu;aps;crd;gpu;bat;x7d;bat;x7f;bus;pci;pwr;xc3;rpm;fan;switch;

 
2:32:29 AM; 68; 54; 31; 68; 40; 0; 33; 0; 37; 57; 54; 0; 3335; 64; 68; 
2:32:34 AM; 68; 54; 31; 68; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 55; 0; 3335; 64; 68; 
2:32:39 AM; 68; 54; 31; 68; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 55; 0; 3335; 64; 68; 
2:32:44 AM; 68; 54; 31; 69; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 55; 0; 3335; 64; 69; 
2:32:49 AM; 68; 54; 31; 69; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 55; 0; 3335; 64; 69; 
2:32:54 AM; 68; 54; 31; 68; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 55; 0; 3335; 64; 68; 
2:32:59 AM; 68; 54; 31; 68; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 55; 0; 3335; 64; 68; 
2:33:04 AM; 67; 54; 31; 68; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 54; 0; 3335; 64; 68; 
2:33:09 AM; 67; 54; 31; 68; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 54; 0; 3335; 64; 68; 
2:33:14 AM; 67; 54; 31; 67; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 54; 0; 3335; 7; 67; 
2:33:19 AM; 67; 54; 31; 67; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 54; 0; 3335; 7; 67; 
2:33:24 AM; 67; 54; 31; 67; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 54; 0; 3315; 7; 67; 
2:33:29 AM; 67; 54; 31; 68; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 54; 0; 3287; 64; 68; 
2:33:34 AM; 67; 54; 31; 68; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 54; 0; 3287; 64; 68; 
2:33:39 AM; 68; 54; 31; 68; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 54; 0; 3287; 64; 68; 
2:33:44 AM; 68; 54; 31; 68; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 54; 0; 3287; 64; 68; 
2:33:49 AM; 68; 54; 31; 68; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 54; 0; 3287; 64; 68; 
2:33:54 AM; 68; 54; 31; 68; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 54; 0; 3287; 64; 68; 
2:33:59 AM; 68; 54; 31; 68; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 55; 0; 3287; 64; 68; 
2:34:04 AM; 67; 54; 31; 68; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 54; 0; 3287; 64; 68; 
2:34:09 AM; 67; 54; 31; 67; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 54; 0; 3287; 7; 67; 
2:34:14 AM; 67; 54; 31; 67; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 54; 0; 3287; 7; 67; 
2:34:19 AM; 67; 54; 31; 68; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 54; 0; 3316; 64; 68; 
2:34:24 AM; 67; 54; 31; 68; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 54; 0; 3316; 64; 68; 
2:34:29 AM; 68; 54; 31; 69; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 54; 0; 3316; 64; 69; 
2:34:34 AM; 68; 54; 31; 68; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 54; 0; 3316; 64; 68; 
2:34:39 AM; 68; 54; 31; 68; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 54; 0; 3316; 64; 68; 
2:34:44 AM; 68; 54; 31; 68; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 54; 0; 3316; 64; 68; 
2:34:49 AM; 68; 54; 31; 68; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 54; 0; 3316; 64; 68; 
2:34:54 AM; 68; 54; 31; 68; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 54; 0; 3316; 64; 68; 
2:34:59 AM; 67; 54; 31; 67; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 54; 0; 3316; 7; 67; 
2:35:04 AM; 67; 54; 31; 68; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 54; 0; 3316; 64; 68; 
2:35:09 AM; 67; 54; 31; 68; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 55; 0; 3316; 64; 68; 
2:35:14 AM; 67; 54; 31; 68; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 54; 0; 3316; 64; 68; 
2:35:19 AM; 68; 54; 31; 68; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 55; 0; 3316; 64; 68; 
2:35:24 AM; 68; 54; 31; 68; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 55; 0; 3316; 64; 68; 
2:35:29 AM; 68; 54; 31; 68; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 55; 0; 3316; 64; 68; 
2:35:34 AM; 68; 54; 31; 68; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 55; 0; 3316; 64; 68; 
2:35:39 AM; 67; 54; 31; 68; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 55; 0; 3316; 64; 68; 
2:35:44 AM; 67; 54; 31; 67; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 54; 0; 3316; 7; 67; 
2:35:49 AM; 67; 54; 31; 67; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 54; 0; 3316; 7; 67; 
2:35:54 AM; 67; 54; 31; 68; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 54; 0; 3252; 64; 68; 
2:35:59 AM; 67; 54; 31; 68; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 54; 0; 3252; 64; 68; 
2:36:04 AM; 67; 54; 31; 68; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 54; 0; 3252; 64; 68; 
2:36:09 AM; 68; 54; 31; 68; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 55; 0; 3252; 64; 68; 
2:36:14 AM; 68; 54; 31; 69; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 54; 0; 3252; 64; 69; 
2:36:19 AM; 68; 54; 31; 68; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 54; 0; 3252; 64; 68; 
2:36:24 AM; 68; 54; 31; 68; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 54; 0; 3252; 64; 68; 
2:36:29 AM; 67; 54; 31; 66; 40; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 54; 0; 3252; 7; 67; 
2:36:34 AM; 67; 54; 31; 63; 41; 0; 34; 0; 37; 57; 54; 0; 3252; 7; 67; 
2:36:39 AM; 66; 54; 31; 62; 41; 0; 34; 0; 37; 56; 54; 0; 3324; 7; 66; 
2:36:44 AM; 64; 54; 31; 61; 41; 0; 34; 0; 37; 56; 54; 0; 3286; 7; 64; 
2:36:49 AM; 63; 53; 31; 61; 41; 0; 34; 0; 37; 55; 53; 0; 3299; 7; 63; 
2:36:54 AM; 61; 53; 31; 60; 41; 0; 34; 0; 37; 55; 53; 0; 3287; 7; 61; 
2:36:59 AM; 61; 53; 31; 59; 41; 0; 34; 0; 37; 55; 52; 0; 3301; 7; 61; 
2:37:04 AM; 59; 52; 31; 59; 41; 0; 34; 0; 37; 54; 52; 0; 3301; 7; 59; 

Level=48 0
Level=55 1
Level=60 7
Level=68 64
Level=80 128

Thanks for the input.

[troubadix]

here's partial list of my log:

whowww someone's using the log2csv option

not so much is known about temps, fan speed and sensors:

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Thermal_Sensors
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_control_fan_speed

ACPI DSDT register HFSP (8 bits, offset 0x2F in the EmbeddedController address space, accessed through the standard EC interface at IO ports 0x62 and 0x66) is read/writable and has the following meaning:

Bits / Values :
7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0
-------------------
1 0 * * * * * * - automatic
* 1 * * * * * * - disengaged
0 0 X X X X X X - manual (0..63; 0=disable fan, 1=min, ..., 7=max)

All the rest is a secret of ibm/lenovo and partly depends on model typ and embedded controller firmware version.

lvl 7 should mean: highest regulated fan speed
lvl 64 should mean: not regulated

all I can say but with the manual option you can have a test from 0 to 128

ciao, troubadix

[badblood]

Thanks for the detailed reply..even if some of that went over by my head .

Most I can get it seems is 3300rpm.
Maybe someone with a T61p can share their experience in regards to the max fan speed they can get.

edit: Upon further testing, I did get up to 4500rpm max but it doesn't seem to be controlled by the temp levels. ie I ocassionally get 4500rpm on both level 7 and 64 but mostly its at 3200-3300rpm.

cheers

[mgo]

Greetings!

I just installed tpfc_v041 on my T60 ThinkPads, both XP and Vista. Success for both.

ini settings are:
// Celsius: (IF Level FAN 0 < 80° -> Celsius is assumed)
Level=50 0
Level=55 1
Level=65 3
Level=70 6
Level=75 64

I inserted the "Level=55 1" to give me an intermediate response.

on both XP and Vista.

While it is true that the T60 machines are very quiet, the "whoosh" gets a little tiresome after a while, so I am running your program so see how it helps.

At 55C the fan runs slightly over 2900 rpm which hardly makes a sound but still moves enough air when the machine is idle.

I really like how this version allows to run the program without the need to start a service. This gives me control over whether or not to run it after bootup, when not run as service.

Just thought you would like to know about this success.

PS I assume you got my small payment by now as small thanks for your program ..

[djThinkbad]

Hi I wanted to know if there was a way the thinkpad Fancontrol Software could start aotomatically when computer restarts.
I often forget to turn it on after a restart or after a shut down and then find my self hearing the loud fan and then searching the
c-drive to turn it on

So is there a way to make it autostart like Notebook Hardware Control (NHC) does?

THANKS!

[mgo]

Hi I wanted to know if there was a way the thinkpad Fancontrol Software could start aotomatically when computer restarts.
I often forget to turn it on after a restart or after a shut down and then find my self hearing the loud fan and then searching the
c-drive to turn it on

So is there a way to make it autostart like Notebook Hardware Control (NHC) does?

THANKS!

Yes, the later versions of the program allow for running it as a service at boot. This may or may not work well in Vista, but it's worth a try. Since I mostly use hibernate (rather than hard shutdown) the fan control program stays resident anyway. If I forget to restart it at re-boot, soon I start to notice the fan noise and that reminds me to launch it.

Rather than having to go to C: to turn the program on, you could just place a shortcut on the desktop and click that when you wish to start the fan control. That is what I have always done. Another solution would be to put a shortcut in your Startup folder, so it will launch at boot time.

[djThinkbad]

Hi I wanted to know if there was a way the thinkpad Fancontrol Software could start aotomatically when computer restarts.
I often forget to turn it on after a restart or after a shut down and then find my self hearing the loud fan and then searching the
c-drive to turn it on

So is there a way to make it autostart like Notebook Hardware Control (NHC) does?

THANKS!

Yes, the later versions of the program allow for running it as a service at boot. This may or may not work well in Vista, but it's worth a try. Since I mostly use hibernate (rather than hard shutdown) the fan control program stays resident anyway. If I forget to restart it at re-boot, soon I start to notice the fan noise and that reminds me to launch it.

Rather than having to go to C: to turn the program on, you could just place a shortcut on the desktop and click that when you wish to start the fan control. That is what I have always done. Another solution would be to put a shortcut in your Startup folder, so it will launch at boot time.

Please can you tell me the steps!

I am not great at software/computer in general

Just a few steps so I can know what to do and dont screw up!

[troubadix]

Just thought you would like to know about this success.

Yeah! Of course, i do

Today, just being back from running down beaches one week at seaside (5 degrees centigrade, windforce 8 ), I found mgo's 20 bucks banknote in my snail mail box Many thnx to columbia, mo ...and to Brian Phillips, who had sent 30 US$ by paypal

There's no need to change the money as I'll be spending it at the Carribean Sea next month, going for a skipper job to Antigua and surrounding islands .

Ciao, troubadix

[djThinkbad]

HOW do i make TP fan control start automatically but on speed 1 Manual???
It keeps starting as the smart mode and wont remember the setting I set before restarting the laptop.(I set it to manual speed 1)

[troubadix]

HOW do i make TP fan control start automatically but on speed 1 Manual???

Till now there is no option to start TPFanControl in manual mode but as a work around for having fan speed 1 at start up setup levels in fancontrol.ini like that:

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Level=4 0
Level=10 1
Level=65 3
Level=70 6
Level=75 64

TPFanControl will start in smart mode with fan level 1 between 10 and 65 degrees centigrade and turn off fan only near freezing point.

ciao, troubadix

edit: THNX to Jeffri Lingo & Victor Dostrow for donation
find all donators: http://staff-www.uni-marburg.de/~schmitzr/donate.html

[Crunch]

TPFanControl will start in smart mode with fan level 1 between 10 and 65 degrees centigrade and turn off fan only near freezing point.

ciao, troubadix

edit: THNX to Jeffri Lingo & Victor Dostrow for donation
find all donators: http://staff-www.uni-marburg.de/~schmitzr/donate.html

Darf man Eeuch auch was schicken to be considered a "donator"...?

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