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Brave_turtle · #31 Post by **Brave_turtle** » Sat Jan 07, 2006 11:32 pm

ako wrote:Don't really understand all these design decisions... T43 is near perfect notebook as it is. For external - remove lpt port or replace it with dvi(com port for me), put flexview on 14.1 sxga and more recent ati card. improve battery.

S-video is really big loss for me, since outside of work notebook is about only media/entertainment thing.

Having used thinkpads for about 6 years i don't really like where lenovo leans with such changes. :/ hope it's all transitional/testing new ideas thing...

Put flexview on 14.1 sxga screen plz!

#32 Post by **GomJabbar** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 7:33 am

I ran across the following on Lenovo's site (I highlighted the interesting part in red and blue text): New Thinking. New ThinkPad.

Lenovo wrote:Intel® Centrino® Duo Mobile Technology on select new ThinkPad T60 and X60 models can deliver a wide variety of benefits, including true parallel processing when running multi-threaded applications or multiple applications simultaneously.
The result:

* Performance boosts for better responsiveness
* Enhanced manageability and better security in today's increasingly mobile business environment
* Power-saving features that enable improvements in battery life, thus increasing mobility and productivity54
* Extended connectivity options to give employees more flexibility to collaborate with clients and colleagues55

meditate2001 · #33 Post by **meditate2001** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 10:45 am

on the webpage the one model is only with an integrated graphics. does any1 knows what graphiccards ati is using? hope x1600 so....???

#34 Post by **GomJabbar** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 11:31 am

meditate2001 wrote:on the webpage the one model is only with an integrated graphics. does any1 knows what graphiccards ati is using? hope x1600 so....???

From Notebook Review: Lenovo ThinkPad T60 Revealed (pics, specs)

Notebook Review wrote:* Video Graphics Choices:
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950
ATI Mobility Radeon X1300 (64MB)
ATI Mobility Radeon X1500 (128MB)

dino · #35 Post by **dino** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 12:16 pm

GomJabbar wrote:
meditate2001 wrote:on the webpage the one model is only with an integrated graphics. does any1 knows what graphiccards ati is using? hope x1600 so....???
From Notebook Review: Lenovo ThinkPad T60 Revealed (pics, specs)

Notebook Review wrote:* Video Graphics Choices:
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950
ATI Mobility Radeon X1300 (64MB)
ATI Mobility Radeon X1500 (128MB)

That site also lists it as having a s-video port but there doesn't seem to be one in any of the pictures.

#36 Post by **GomJabbar** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 12:42 pm

dino wrote:That site also lists it as having a s-video port but there doesn't seem to be one in any of the pictures.

Well, it could be a typo of course. But likely it is like the ThinkPad 600E series. Some had video out and some didn't. Maybe the S-video port will be offered only on the ATI models. I guess we'll find out in the coming days, weeks and months.

darrenf · #37 Post by **darrenf** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:02 pm

Brave_turtle wrote:Put flexview on 14.1 sxga screen plz!

Nothing wrong with that as an option, but I hope they don't make it standard. The 15" FelxView screen draws ~60% more power than the same size non-FlexView unit. To me the battery life is much more important. Also, unless it's been fixed, the ghosting issue makes gaming unpleasant.

-darren

ako · #38 Post by **ako** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:49 pm

I suspect they meant some T60s will use both dual and single core cpus.

GomJabbar wrote:
Lenovo wrote:Intel® Centrino® Duo Mobile Technology on select new ThinkPad T60 and X60 models can deliver a wide variety of benefits, including true parallel processing when running multi-threaded applications or multiple applications simultaneously.

ako · #39 Post by **ako** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:52 pm

Hmm. is it really 60%? Are/Were there non-flexview 15" lcds? Where did this number come from?

darrenf wrote:
Brave_turtle wrote:Put flexview on 14.1 sxga screen plz!
Nothing wrong with that as an option, but I hope they don't make it standard. The 15" FelxView screen draws ~60% more power than the same size non-FlexView unit. To me the battery life is much more important. Also, unless it's been fixed, the ghosting issue makes gaming unpleasant.

-darren

christopher_wolf · #40 Post by **christopher_wolf** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 3:14 pm

I am not sure about the number; but the FlexView does draw more power...They can't go wrong if they offer it as an option IMHO.

darrenf · #41 Post by **darrenf** » Sun Jan 08, 2006 7:09 pm

ako wrote:Hmm. is it really 60%? Are/Were there non-flexview 15" lcds? Where did this number come from?

In the following forum post:

http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.ph ... view+power

Conmee posts figures from the IDTech website that show that the 15" SXGA+ FlexView draws 6.6W ("typical") where the 15" SXGA+ non-FlexView draws 4.1W typical for a difference of 60.9% more power required.

I don't have stats on the Samsung or other displays that IBM/Lenovo have chosen to use.

-darren

tom2517 · #42 Post by **tom2517** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 3:09 am

GomJabbar wrote:
meditate2001 wrote:on the webpage the one model is only with an integrated graphics. does any1 knows what graphiccards ati is using? hope x1600 so....???
From Notebook Review: Lenovo ThinkPad T60 Revealed (pics, specs)

Notebook Review wrote:* Video Graphics Choices:
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950
ATI Mobility Radeon X1300 (64MB)
ATI Mobility Radeon X1500 (128MB)

T60p will get a 256MB PCI Express card, I think it was V5200 FireGL on Lenovo's website.

abvc · #43 Post by **abvc** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 5:55 am

sethstorm wrote: The part that strikes me about it looking too much like the mainstream R series is the outer casing and the buttons remind me of the R series. It's that the model in the reviews look to be like something that got a major budget cut in design.

my r52 keyboard uses t43 PLU lol

christopher_wolf · #44 Post by **christopher_wolf** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 1:56 pm

Actually....The T60 looks very similar to one T43 I saw; but it was a very different T43. I was at Office Depot and decided to check out the Thinkpads and what IBM/Lenovo had put out; well, I was in for a bit of surprise. The T43 they had put on display was significantly different than the normal T4X Chassis. It looked *very* similar to what now is the T60; at the time, though, I did not get the chance to see T60 Pics. So I would have classified it as an R-Series-ish type Chassis. It was next to a Z60t. I thought that all T4Xs had the same Chassis; although, if I remember correctly, the R52 shares the same system board as the T43...So there isn't much of a difference and it certainly doesn't look bad by any means.

danda821 · #45 Post by **danda821** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 12:19 pm

Probably we can use a VGA to S-Video adapter on T60. It is cheap (about $5), but I don't if it will be good enough.

dr_st · #46 Post by **dr_st** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 12:38 pm

darrenf wrote:Conmee posts figures from the IDTech website that show that the 15" SXGA+ FlexView draws 6.6W ("typical") where the 15" SXGA+ non-FlexView draws 4.1W typical for a difference of 60.9% more power required.

Reduce the brightness.

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