New drive wont boot after doing image transfer.

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umern · #1 Post by **umern** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 5:50 am

Bought a external USB enclosure and tried to replace my 40GB HD for 80GB HD but I think the enclosure is duff - the HD appears in the Device Manager but not in Computer Management->Disk Management. Tried on my T40 laptop and my work X31 laptop and home desktop PC.

Dont want to spend £40 on a HDD adaptor and dont want to wait a week for the Ebay seller to replace the USB enclosure so now wondering if there is any other way option? My drive is only 3.5GB full at the moment.

I have installed the v3 of the Thinkvantage Rescue/Recover but when I press the blue Access button on bootup it brings up the RR software but none of the options seems to allow a backup of the entire HD.

I dont mind backing up the whole HD to CDs - I also have a NAS drive which I can connect the T40 to via an ethernet cable - just not sure what software will allow me to create a complete HD backup to either CD or the NAS drive. There is the Migration tool, Rescure Recovery etc.
NOTE: I dont have any Recovery discs etc as I bought the laptop 2nd hand off Ebay.

The main thing is I want the whole HD including the Rescue partition etc.
Any advice greatly appreciated.
As a last resort I could just reinstall XP from scratch onto the new HD but I guess I would then lose the Recovery partition etc? Or could I recreate that later?

egibbs · #2 Post by **egibbs** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:56 am

Download a free trial of Acronis True Image.

Ed Gibbs

umern · #3 Post by **umern** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:34 am

egibbs wrote:Download a free trial of Acronis True Image.

Ed Gibbs

**2nd Edit:***
Just tried downloading the trial at work and having a quick play - created a Boot CD and then tried to backup over the network and it says that I need to buy the full version?

Will a restore over a network also require a full version?

Thanks

LtTPfan · #4 Post by **LtTPfan** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:10 am

You can backup your system with R&R from your start menu programs, usually located in the Thinkvantage folder, rather than using your blue access button. 13+ gigs took 8 CDs total for my backup. The first CD will be a startup disk and the remaining will have your backup. It took roughly 2.5 hours to backup and about the same to restore to a new drive. It did copy the service partition as well without added steps or switches. I went from 40gb to 80gb.

dsvochak · #5 Post by **dsvochak** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 4:21 pm

You may want to read this thread regarding powering 2.5 HD enclosures:
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=19781

The problem you describe may mean you need additional power to the enclosure.

umern · #6 Post by **umern** » Fri Feb 03, 2006 8:54 am

Thanks for the replies.

Borrowed a work colleagure (different) USB enclosure and managed to do a disk transfer using Acronis True Image.

BUT, installed the new drive into my T40 and it wont boot into windows. Check the BIOS and the drive is recognised etc.

Plugged the drive back into the USB enclosure, browsed it and it all looks OK.

Then used a different drive copying software (Paragon Image) and again managed to copy the original drive, installed the new into the T40 and it still wont boot!

Finally resorted to doing a R&R backup onto 6 CDs and will try a restore this evening. WHAT A pain! I did a disk transplant on my NEC Versa laptop a few months ago and it all worked first time!!

If the RR discs dont work - I havent got a clue what I will do next!

Nolonemo · #7 Post by **Nolonemo** » Fri Feb 03, 2006 9:36 am

You say it "won't boot into windows." Unless you say exactly what happens when you try to boot, we can't help you.

umern · #8 Post by **umern** » Fri Feb 03, 2006 9:55 am

Switch the laptop on and it just seems to hang after the intial IBM logo screen.
If I go into the BIOS it shows the drive is recognised etc.

I have just been searching the forums and read something about most image software only copying one sector for the boot stuff whereas the IBM stuff requires 4 sectors to be copied.

I wonder if that is the problem?

Oh, well I am going to try and restore from the R&R CDs tonight and I guess they will sort all that out??

#9 Post by **GomJabbar** » Fri Feb 03, 2006 8:54 pm

I could be wrong, but it seems that I have read that sometimes you have to partition and format the hard drive first in the laptop using the Windows install CD, and not in another computer. I am not sure why this would make any difference.

umern · #10 Post by **umern** » Sat Feb 04, 2006 6:18 am

I gave up trying to do a HD to HD transfer and used the R&R3 software to create Recovery media CDs etc. Took a few hours but I managed to restore to my HD from the CDs and it all appears to be OK.

Just for the record the new drive is a Samsung 80GB MP0804H

Thanks for the help.

#11 Post by **bill bolton** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:33 am

GomJabbar wrote:I am not sure why this would make any difference.

It s related to the Hard Drive Volume Serial Number (VSN) that Windows puts on a drive.

For some drive related processes this matters a lot, while for others it doesn't matter at all..... but its often just easier to make sure the drive starts out with a VSN that the local system instance is aware of, befoe you try to do anything else with it.

Cheers,

Bill

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