Another rescue and recovery question

[silo]

I have a new HD coming, and I have R&R disks (a CD and a DVD) made by previous owner of my X32. If I use the R&R disks to set up the new HD, will it have the IBM recovery partition in place? And will I be able to make a new set of R&R disks from the newly set up HD?

Also, if I simply install XP from an original MS Windows XP disk I bought, how would I then go about getting IBM R&R partition in place, or would I simply forget about that?

I noticed, with another machine, that I could download the IBM R&R software from the IBM site onto a HD that had been set up from an original full install MS Win XP disk, but when I tried to use the R&R I had some kind of blowout/lockup.

So is the R&R software made to be used on a drive with an operating system installed from an original MS disk?

Or is it more a thing to reinstall a BACKUP copy the user has previously made to either HD or optical media?

Sorry to be dense, but it's late. Oh, forget that, I'm dense whether it's late or not.

Thanks,

Silo

[egibbs]

1. Yes - it will create the R&R partition.

2. I don't think so - you already have the recovery disks, so why would it let you build more?

3. If you do a clean install you could download R&R, and it might create the recovery partition (it's supposed to, but often there are issues as you discovered). If you want R&R I'd do a recovery since you have the disks. If you want a clean install without R&R I'd use an XP disk.

4. In my limited experience it is best to recover onto a completely clean disk. The IBM PC Doctor Utilities (which are, unfortunately, on the recovery partition) has a "Full Erase HDD" function. A couple times in the past I have been unable to get a recovery CD to work on a drive that had data on it, but after running a full erase it worked fine.

Ed Gibbs

[silo]

1. Yes - it will create the R&R partition.

2. I don't think so - you already have the recovery disks, so why would it let you build more?

3. If you do a clean install you could download R&R, and it might create the recovery partition (it's supposed to, but often there are issues as you discovered). If you want R&R I'd do a recovery since you have the disks. If you want a clean install without R&R I'd use an XP disk.

4. In my limited experience it is best to recover onto a completely clean disk. The IBM PC Doctor Utilities (which are, unfortunately, on the recovery partition) has a "Full Erase HDD" function. A couple times in the past I have been unable to get a recovery CD to work on a drive that had data on it, but after running a full erase it worked fine.

Ed Gibbs

Interestingly, I tried cloning my 20G drive to my new 80G and once done the 80G would not boot. So then I did a clean install of Win XP Home, and that booted fine, but I was without all the IBM stuff, like the drivers for the internal wireless card, etc. So then I did a recovery from the recovery disks and that worked fine, except it's slow. I relaly wanted a clean install of XP Home with the whole disk as one partition and no recovery partition, but that's not what I ended up with so far.

[egibbs]

You can do a clean XP install, go to the Lenove support site and download the Software Installer, and it will then find all the drivers you need.

What you won't get are the "free" apps - DVD player, burning software, etc. But most of those stripped down demo versions of commercial products anyways.

If you really want them, back up the IBM tools folder before you wipe the drive, then re-install them from there.

Ed Gibbs

[noeffort]

Plan on installing a new hd in my T41. Don't know what way to go - do a clean install with new xp pro disk or restore. Don't really care about the IBM stuff.
If I do an clean install with xp pro just run ibm software installer and I should be good to go?

thanks

[egibbs]

Plan on installing a new hd in my T41. Don't know what way to go - do a clean install with new xp pro disk or restore. Don't really care about the IBM stuff.
If I do an clean install with xp pro just run ibm software installer and I should be good to go?

thanks

Should be - with the exception of the afore-mentioned free (and worth every penny) software.

Ed Gibbs

[noeffort]

Hi Ed.
You mean ibm tools?
Can I just copy ibm tools folder from old drive to new install?

thanks

[egibbs]

As long as you can mount them both at the same time, sure.

Ed Gibbs