Poll: What would you like to have in your new T series TP?

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#31 Post by T41mbi » Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:49 am

First off we need to make it convertible

12.1 Tablet screens just dont cut if especially if you got to do lots of reading

Secondly, and just as important, a sharper screen, like the Sony laptops and most other laptops have some crisp and vibrant screens its just amazing

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#32 Post by christopher_wolf » Sun Feb 12, 2006 1:52 pm

Well, I would make a sub-series of T Tablets; the only thing I am worried about is the screen stiffness and the durability of the hinges. Unless IBM/Lenovo comes up with a converging 2-to-1sliding hinge system (Hmmm, sounds familiar to the Keyboard on the 701 ;) ) that takes the standard hinge positions and combine them into one when the screen is rotated 180 degrees, I am not sure how they could get a large, single hinge that is both compact enough and strong enough to hande the screen. The LCD and hinge stiffness in Thinkpads is some of the best I have ever seen; a big concern would be keeping it whilst making a 14.1" T Series Tablet.

The Sony XBrite screens aren't for everybody; some people like them alot and some don't. They can be annoying when working in an office setting and reflecting many components of artificial light, especially fluorescents. Somewhat trivial considering that you could just make the screens in different configs then; one standard, the other glossy. :)
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#33 Post by erasmus » Mon Feb 13, 2006 11:45 am

Oh, wishes!
What about Lenovo had a look at even the cheapest competitors:

CD/DVD drive speed - why the f... can't it be automatic like any other laptop. I'm sick and tired of switching to Silent if I want to watch a DVD and then back to Normal/High Performance when copying files. Each time it requires a reboot of the machine (If you don't like watching movies to the sound of a jet engine).

Same goes with the Fan noise. Year, I know really cheap laptops with desktop processors are howling, but other brands with Pentium mobiles are much more silent than T4x ThinkPad’s and stop the fan when there is no need for cooling.

.. and surely as others pointed out: one more USB at least.

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#34 Post by smugiri » Mon Feb 13, 2006 1:18 pm

erasmus wrote:CD/DVD drive speed - why the f... can't it be automatic like any other laptop. I'm sick and tired of switching to Silent if I want to watch a DVD and then back to Normal/High Performance when copying files. Each time it requires a reboot of the machine (If you don't like watching movies to the sound of a jet engine).
You are right, this really should be automatic like it is with other laptops though. Until they fix this, you can still change the CD ROM speed on the fly in the Power properties applet without a reboot.

Right click your desktop away from any icons, pick ScreenSaver, hit the "Power" button all the way at the bottom above the "Cancel", pick the "Advanced Settings" tab and the CD ROM speed is right at the top of the list.

You can also use the "Thinkpad Configuration" tool in the "Access IBM" menu to do this, just pick the "Power Management" and continue from the hit "Power" button step above.
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#35 Post by erasmus » Mon Feb 13, 2006 2:14 pm

Thanks for the tip, but I still have to reboot in order change the drive speed. Whenever I press Apply after a speed change - the reboot box pops up.

Don't know if that is due to my drive (only DVD) or model: T40 2373

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#36 Post by christopher_wolf » Mon Feb 13, 2006 2:49 pm

Hmmm, at least for my T43, you don't have to follow the reboot box for a change in Optical Drive speed; I tried it without rebooting and it works fine. This also seems to work on my friend's T42; I imagine that since the hardware in the drives is pretty much identical throughout the T4X Series, depending on which drive you get, you should be able to do this as long as you have Windows XP since it only has to change a setting on the drive. If there was such a big barrier to it, you wouldn't see the "cheaper" companies and the optical drives they put in their laptops doing it automatically. :)
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#37 Post by nirvana0001 » Mon Feb 13, 2006 3:33 pm

2TB, water cooling, 1" body depth. that's all i want
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#38 Post by christopher_wolf » Mon Feb 13, 2006 3:44 pm

Hitachi actually made a P4 Water-cooled laptop and marketed it over in Japan, that was a few years ago and I don't know what happened to it now. If we are going to sitck with the Intel Mobile chipsets, I think that air-cooling is pretty efficient at cooling down the CPU and system as a whole. Maybe if it was a P4 or a desktop AMD that somebody decided to shoe-horn into a laptop , then maybe.
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#39 Post by greghead » Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:27 pm

CChoi83 wrote:...
Relocate all ports to the BACK of the T with the exception of the PCMCIA slots, audio in/out and may one or two USB ports
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5+ hour battery life at a minimum
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The extended 9 cell battery sticks out the back. So that it doesn't stick off the bottom.

They made the right choice.

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#40 Post by noetus » Thu Feb 23, 2006 4:03 am

I second the better DVD burner options. I'm currently eyeing Plextor's new PX-608U (which is slim, burns just about everything, relatively fast, and comes with Plextools as a bonus, and apparently doesn't require a power cord, though I'm waiting for some real reviews to believe that one) and thinking of moving my 2nd hard drive internally, the DVD burner outboard...

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#41 Post by Aroc » Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:57 pm

I still need 15k SCSI. This pair of 7k100s just isn't fast enough. :?
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#42 Post by DIGITALgimpus » Thu Feb 23, 2006 3:25 pm

I'd just like to install the HD of my choice.... and not get a 2010 error. A little quieter would also be good.

Other than that, I'm pretty satisfied.
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#43 Post by marcos » Mon Feb 27, 2006 8:44 pm

Smaller footprint, thickness and weights for the T series with 15". It seems to me that the lcd frame could be made smaller and thinner.

A brighter display.

An lcd lid lock mechanism in which there are no protuding parts.

Return of the foldable supports in the bottom

Dual Thinklight, that turns off after a configurable interval to save on batteries.

S-video input with mpeg2/4 real time encoder.

Firewire on all models

Ultrabay slot cover shipped with all systems and replacement trackpoint caps.

Rubber covers for ethernet and modem, of type that you can't loose because it is 'tied' to the system.

The option of other OS and no OS on open-bay systems.
T440s OK so far.
T420s NVIDIA graphics. Nice, then MB failure.
T400s Workhorse. two of'em, both faulty display with vertical stripes.
T43 °very nice° - MB reflown and dead, two of'em.
T42 15°, dead onboard wireless.
T40, dead memory slot, stolen from me
T30, stolen from me
TP600 dead

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#44 Post by christopher_wolf » Mon Feb 27, 2006 8:57 pm

You can already get different OSes on the Thinkpad from what I have seen on the website, you just have to order it that way from the beginning.

My 701C as rubber covers for the ports that are tethered to the chassis, not too much of an extra benefit

I bought a few extra trackpoint caps, just to make sure I have spares for the T43. Three came with it initially, although they all differed to begin with.
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#45 Post by donking! » Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:53 pm

-S-video.
-Brighter 14" screen with better viewing angles. Flexview possible?
-Would an all magnesium chassis (on bottom too) make it lighter?
-Decent usable speakers for watching a movie.
-Ditto on consistent keyboard quality (why don't they just use NMB on all of them?).
-Keep the ultranav as is and don't change the keyboard and ultranave colors.
-Motherboard design that allows 4GB RAM to be addressable (this is possible, there are motherboards that do this, it is not true that it's an inherent limitation of the 32bit architecture, to only be able to address 3GB--as Lenovo asserts).
-ATI Mobility X1600 256MB.
-Good sound card with line in.

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#46 Post by princeatul » Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:59 pm

I haven't ordered one yet, but I wish TP had...
1. Built-in FM Tuner (can't imagine working without radio ON)
2. Good Sound Card
3. Brighter LCD
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#47 Post by donking! » Mon Feb 27, 2006 11:02 pm

nirvana0001 wrote:2TB, water cooling, 1" body depth. that's all i want
Just curious. Is the T60 now using some sort of liquid cooling system? I'm looking at pages 76 and 77 of the maintenance manual. It sort of looks like it does.

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#48 Post by marcos » Mon Feb 27, 2006 11:30 pm

Embedded hight safety / security sistem made of:

- Embedded GPS/galileo receiver. Antenna is a strip of conductive tape in the back of lid cover.
- Embedded GSM phone with SIM holder in a slot somewhere.

The machines sends positions and is ack'ed by communication with a central server. SMS is used that track TP's on the territory.

This is done is done as long a battery is connected, in background. The resources are also available to the OS for other applications, however.
T440s OK so far.
T420s NVIDIA graphics. Nice, then MB failure.
T400s Workhorse. two of'em, both faulty display with vertical stripes.
T43 °very nice° - MB reflown and dead, two of'em.
T42 15°, dead onboard wireless.
T40, dead memory slot, stolen from me
T30, stolen from me
TP600 dead

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#49 Post by GomJabbar » Mon Feb 27, 2006 11:38 pm

princeatul wrote:I haven't ordered one yet, but I wish TP had...
1. Built-in FM Tuner (can't imagine working without radio ON)
I use a Sony Ericsson GC83 PC card with Cingular EDGE (Laptop Connect - unlimited data) cellular service and Live 365 internet radio www.live365.com . I listen to radio all the time on my ThinkPad, and it is virtually ad free! Quite a bit better than FM at the house. At my desk, I have a couple of small Altec Lansing 120i portable AC-powered speakers that give decent sound from the headphone jack. :D
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#50 Post by lithium726 » Mon Feb 27, 2006 11:47 pm

donking! wrote:
nirvana0001 wrote:2TB, water cooling, 1" body depth. that's all i want
Just curious. Is the T60 now using some sort of liquid cooling system? I'm looking at pages 76 and 77 of the maintenance manual. It sort of looks like it does.
no, those are just heatpipes on the CPU cooler... T4x uses them, as does the T20-22 (the 23 didnt). they are tubes with gas inside that expands and contracts under heat to transfer it to the fins, where the fan blows it out.
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#51 Post by princeatul » Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:05 am

GomJabbar wrote:
princeatul wrote:I haven't ordered one yet, but I wish TP had...
1. Built-in FM Tuner (can't imagine working without radio ON)
I use a Sony Ericsson GC83 PC card with Cingular EDGE (Laptop Connect - unlimited data) cellular service and Live 365 internet radio www.live365.com . I listen to radio all the time on my ThinkPad, and it is virtually ad free! :D
That sounds pretty interesting! Though I don't think in my country that option (though not impossible to achieve) would be much viable :(
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