Power Manager Update Fails

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rgrossha · #1 Post by **rgrossha** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 2:42 pm

Hi All -

Went to update Power Manager on my T43p with the new software that was out this week.

It requires a "manual" install. Started that. It tells me that Battery Maximiser is installed, and needs to be removed (it isn't installed). Asks me if I want to have it removed. Answer yes.

Nothing happens. Also get a prompt that asks me to reboot. And, of course, at the end of the day, the software is not installed.

Here's what I've tried so far:

Install and uninstall Battery Maximiser
uninstall power manager driver (separate software)
Looked high and low in registry for Maximiser entries.

Any suggestions, short of seeing what Lenovo's support will do with this problem?

Thanks ahead of time.

Rob

davidspalding · #2 Post by **davidspalding** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:30 am

Are you trying to install Power Manager version 1.38? I'm currently trying to switch from 1.01 to 1.38, uinstalled 1.01, and every time I try installing 1.38 from either Software Installer or from downloaded-and-expanded 1xu105u1.exe, SETUP.EXE just sits there in processes not doing anything, not so much as a dialog box.

#3 Post by **GomJabbar** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:05 pm

davidspalding wrote:Are you trying to install Power Manager version 1.38? I'm currently trying to switch from 1.01 to 1.38, uinstalled 1.01, and every time I try installing 1.38 from either Software Installer or from downloaded-and-expanded 1xu105u1.exe, SETUP.EXE just sits there in processes not doing anything, not so much as a dialog box.

Are you using NT 4.0? 1.38 is only for NT 4.0.

EDIT: To the OP, if you have Battery Maximiser installed, that tells me that you can't use the New Power Manager software, because you are running NT 4.0. See following link. Software and Device Drivers - ThinkPad T43, T43p

davidspalding · #4 Post by **davidspalding** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:36 pm

How odd, that's what was updated on my brand spanking new T43.

[edit]Wrong, I've never had Power Manager 1.3x on my T43.

Battery MaxiMiser and Power Management features for Windows - ThinkPad General

This package contains the following small packages for Microsoft Windows 95/98/Me/NT 4.0/2000/XP users:

- ThinkPad Battery MaxiMiser and Power Management Features
- ThinkPad Battery Information Support Driver I, II, and III

File details

Version: 1.38
Release Date: 2005/04/22

I must be encountering the other poster's problem with InstallShield, none of the Power Management apps are installing from SETUP.EXE.

#5 Post by **GomJabbar** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:55 pm

It pays to read the fine print.

I. Supported ThinkPad systems
This package enables or updates the utility programs of the following ThinkPad computers:

* ThinkPad 570, 570E
* ThinkPad 600, 600E, 600X
* ThinkPad 770(*8 ), 770E, 770ED, 770X, 770Z
* ThinkPad A20m, A20p, A21e, A21m, A21p, A22m, A22p, A22e,A30, A30p,A31, A31p (*1)
* ThinkPad G40 (*7), G41(*5)
* ThinkPad R32, R40 (*4), R40e (*6), R50 (*5), R50e (*5), R50p (*5), R51 (*5)
* ThinkPad T20, T21, T22, T23, T30 (*3), T40(*4),T40p (*5),T41 (*4), T41p(*5), T42(*4), T42p(*5), T43 Model 26xx (*10)
* ThinkPad X20, X21, X22, X23, X24,X30 (*4), X31 (*4), X32 (*10), X40 (*9)
* ThinkPad i Series 1157 (*1)
* ThinkPad TransNote (*3)

Notes:

* *1: Supports Windows 98/98 SE/Me/NT 4.0/2000/XP only
* *2: Supports Windows 98/98 SE/Me/2000/XP only
* *3: Supports Windows 98 SE/Me/NT 4.0/2000/XP only
o Only the following T30 models support the Windows Me: 2366/2367-x1x, x2x, x3x, x4x, x5x, A6x and A7x except for M1x, M2x, M3x, M4x and M5x
* *4: Supports Windows 98/98 SE/NT 4.0/2000/XP only
* *5: Supports Windows 2000/XP only
* *6: Supports Windows XP only
* *7: Supports Windows 98 SE/2000/XP only
* *8: No Windows XP support
* *9: Supports Windows NT 4.0/2000/XP only
* *10:Supports Windows NT 4.0 only

II. Summary of changes
Version 1.38

#6 Post by **jdhurst** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:59 pm

Battery Maximizer 1.38 runs on my T41 and on any T41 or T42 I have set up. The two T43's I set up needed Power Manager 1.01 (IIRC). For sure, 1.38 for the earlier T's did not run on the T43. And the Version 1.38 I am using is for XP (not for NT4). ... JD Hurst

davidspalding · #7 Post by **davidspalding** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:35 pm

GomJabbar wrote:It pays to read the fine print.

Indeed it does. I'm doing this on a T41 (see below), which I neglected to point out.

deleted ... My T41 had a similar app (UI), but v. 1.01, 1XU105US. I'm pretty much baffled about the similarity but differences in these version #'s, and the Power Management Driver (1.33, last I looked) version #'s as well. Each time I punch in the MTM of my T41 and look for "latest power manager software," it points to the 1.38 download.

And for what it's worth, I just downloaded the Presentation Manager update 2.41b, and it does the same darn thing - SETUP.EXE runs, sits there, and does nothing.

[edit]

Whoops, boy was I wrong. It's v. 1.33 of the Power management driver that I have on both T41 and T43. My T43 has Power Manager v. 1.12. So ... i dunno WHAT this 1.38 is that Lenovo wants me to install on my T41. After posting, I installed an older version of Battery Maximizer (found where I'd zipped it up, and forgotten; thanks, Gom, for reminding me to look for the .xml files), it went on fine, I threw the 41 in the desk and ran home to ravioli, BROTHERS GRIMM and relaxation.

#8 Post by **GomJabbar** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:57 pm

davidspalding wrote:So ... i dunno WHAT this 1.38 is that Lenovo wants me to install on my T41.

This is the latest version of Battery MaxiMiser that's available. Actually it came out in April of last year. This is what I have had on my T42 (with XP Pro) for some months. I'll admit, it does seem rather odd that Battery MaxiMiser supports XP on all the ThinkPads from the 570 to the T42/p, with the exception of ME on some models of the T30 and NT 4.0 on the T43 (26xx).

Battery MaxiMiser and Power Management features for Windows - ThinkPad General

#9 Post by **jdhurst** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:45 pm

OK, let's clarify things here:

The IBM Power Management Driver (which has squat to do with BMM in terms of version levels) is at 1.33, says it is for ThinkPad General and works (at least) on T41 (mine), T42 (clients) and T43 (clients). All XP and the docs don't differentiate T4x so far as I recall.

Battery Maximizer is at V1.38 for T41 (mine) and T42. I tried it on T43 and it failed. Then (trust me) I looked at the docs and realized the T43 requires Power Manager 1.01 (IIRC). I read here that this program works on earlier T4's but I have not tried that.
... JD Hurst

davidspalding · #10 Post by **davidspalding** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:43 pm

Makes sense. Power Manager 1.01 is what was on my T41 until this past weekend. I noted that i couldn't do the "battery reset" on my 41, but could on my T43 ... and the 43 had a later version (1.12 as it turns out). Hence my quest to find the latest version for the 41.

(Background: we have 3-4 T41s at work, in service about 2 1/2 years, and most of the 6-cell batteries are run down to about 45 mins max runtime. When I did the reset - at home on my 43 - on the one I inherited, I boosted it back up to about 2 hours.)

I finally got the older "Battery Maximizer" (with no custom schemes) back on my 41 this evening. Since it was Software Installer that updated it in January ... I'll try that again after I can get some work done.

Too bad I'm not there anymore, someone needs to drop the hint that having branched versions of software and drivers with too-similar numbering schemes is not especially easy on the consumers.

davidspalding · #11 Post by **davidspalding** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:03 pm

Well FWIW, I tried the very same 1XU105US setup program on a MS virtual PC that doesn't have all the Visual Studio, .NET 1.1 and 2.0 cruft, Adobe, Microsoft Office, blahblahblah, stuff on it ... and the InstallShield SETUP launched, loaded, and then pronounced "won't run on this machine." Doesn't get that far on my laptop.

So there is definitely something on my T41 that is interfering with Installshield 5.52.xxx.

#12 Post by **GomJabbar** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:23 pm

davidspalding wrote:Makes sense. Power Manager 1.01 is what was on my T41 until this past weekend. I noted that i couldn't do the "battery reset" on my 41, but could on my T43 ... and the 43 had a later version (1.12 as it turns out). Hence my quest to find the latest version for the 41.

davidspalding wrote:So there is definitely something on my T41 that is interfering with Installshield 5.52.xxx.

Power Manager was never intended for the T41. It probably mucked up your registry. After uninstalling Power Manager 1.01, try running a registry cleaner program, reboot, then try installing the Battery MaxiMiser program.

Symptoms corrected by the latest Power manager driver for Windows 2000/XP - ThinkPad R51e, R52, T43/p, T60/p, X32, X41/Tablet, X60/s, Z60m, Z60t

Actually I would use the shotgun approach and uninstall the following: Battery MaxiMiser, Power Management Driver (in addition to Power Manager above), EasyEject, ThinkPad Configuration, and Presentation Director. Then I would use Software Installer to install the lot at one time.

I just did this this morning for a different issue. Last night I found out that my T42 was not going into Standby on its own, yet the Fn + F4 key combo worked. I tried uninstalling just Battery MaxiMiser, rebooting, then reinstalling Battery MaxiMiser, but that did not solve the problem. That is when I used the shotgun approach, and now Standby is working normally. I also found out that the PowerProfiles were not removed from the registry even after uninstalling all of the above. I had some 60 power profiles in some keys. I manually removed all but the 2 Windows Default profiles, then reinstalled Battery MaxiMiser. This added the Battery MaxiMiser profiles to the 2 Windows profiles for the Administrator profile. I am going to add them to my other 2 user profiles later.

davidspalding · #13 Post by **davidspalding** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:23 pm

The older Maximizer program installed okay last night. Upon checking my T43 at home, i realized that the reputed Power Manager 1.38 app has never been on any of my systems. But the Power Manager 1.12 app, which is specified only for the 43 machine type of the T line, works fine on my T41. I presume that Power Manager 1.01 which Software Installer loaded on it in January was an earlier version.

Registry probably has nothing to do with two different IBM apps not installing on the T41: Power Manager 1.38 and Presentation Manager 2.41b.

Case closed on my end.

davidspalding · #14 Post by **davidspalding** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:27 pm

If the OP isn't thoroughly confused by now, my hat's off to him/her!

#15 Post by **GomJabbar** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:20 am

Well, I've got my own power problems now. I had a problem with Standby, which I fixed. But then I had a new problem with the power schemes, different user accounts and the registry. I was overconfident and began editing the registry to get my power schemes in order. Now I have no power schemes, and I can't seem to get them back. Using my shotgun approach above is insufficient. I believe I removed a necessary Windows component.

RnR to the rescue right? NOT. I wanted to restore my Windows settings, in other words the registry or system state from a RnR DVD backup that I had with me. RnR will not let you do that from a DVD or CD - it has to be from a local hard drive, external USB drive, or network drive.

I could restore the whole backup, but that backup is 3 months old.

I could have easily fixed this with my StompSoft Backup MyPC backup. Unfortunately I don't have it with me. It is a thousand miles away. If I can't figure out how to repair my boo boo, I'll have to wait a month until I get home.

On the bright side, at least I can still boot up and go online!

davidspalding · #16 Post by **davidspalding** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:43 pm

I've given up on RnR ... it's a nice tool for full backup, I s'pose, but it's been too limited for me in far too many tests. Ghost works for my T43 just fine.

Don't suppose you did a backup (export) of your registry before tinkering with it?

#17 Post by **GomJabbar** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:57 pm

davidspalding wrote:Don't suppose you did a backup (export) of your registry before tinkering with it?

Of course not! I like to live on the Edge!

EDIT: This is just my sarcastic sense of humor at work again, so don't take it the wrong way. I'll know to export my registry next time. I've edited my registry before, but never 'Borked' it like this time. I even lost my Volume Control, Safely Remove Hardware, and Network adapter icons from the System Tray.

davidspalding · #18 Post by **davidspalding** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:45 pm

I read ya, ghostrider....

My trick, when I go into the Registry to tweak things, is save/export the area that I'm editing just before, put it in my usual "backup" folder with a date/time in teh file name. That way, if I've mucked something, all I hafta do is merge the exported part, and then logout/login. I know, nitpicky little OCD procedure, but it can help. That registry is like a planet-sized Byzantine maze and I couldn't find my way back to some hives without my exports.

mrjcleaver · #19 Post by **mrjcleaver** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:50 pm

davidspalding wrote:The older Maximizer program installed okay last night. Upon checking my T43 at home, i realized that the reputed Power Manager 1.38 app has never been on any of my systems. But the Power Manager 1.12 app, which is specified only for the 43 machine type of the T line, works fine on my T41. I presume that Power Manager 1.01 which Software Installer loaded on it in January was an earlier version.

Registry probably has nothing to do with two different IBM apps not installing on the T41: Power Manager 1.38 and Presentation Manager 2.41b.

Case closed on my end.

I opened a case with Lenovo on this - I'll let you know whether they try to charge me for resolving it. I'm trying to improve THEIR process, which will be interesting as this laptop just went past its 3 year warranty... will they figure that I need to buy a new laptop as well as get this one working? I love my X30 but its a bit slow, no USB2 and, well, Vista is just around the corner.

mrjcleaver · #20 Post by **mrjcleaver** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 8:25 am

This might help?

1.35 : http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... 44224.html
(2003/12/24)
Changes included http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-46530

davidspalding · #21 Post by **davidspalding** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 11:51 am

I no longer have that T41.

giasoldacastlar · #22 Post by **giasoldacastlar** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:52 am

Hi,

sorry to bother on this old topic. I just reinstalled my T42 using the IBM disks, then I used software installer to install all the drivers which were updated in within. Everything went fine except for "Battery MaxiMiser and Power Management features". Software installer wanted to install version 1.38 while I had versione 1.37. The installer just sits there and using setup.exe directly doesn't do anything as described in this forum. I also tryed to uninstall version 1.37 with the only result that now also version 1.37 doesn't want to install anymore.

Anyone found a solution to this problem?

Thanks a lot

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