Internal wireless in T23

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Internal wireless in T23

#1 Post by leegaard » Wed Feb 22, 2006 8:18 pm

If I want to put in wireless in my T23, and do not have wireless antenna built in, which FRU# do I have to order?
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#2 Post by lithium726 » Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:09 pm

due to the fact that the T23 models which do not have the antennas built in do not feature the mounts inside the LCD housing, youll have to put hte antennas inside the body of the TP, unless you want to buy a new LCD housing. due to this, you can pick up whatever antennas are cheapest on ebay and mount them under the keyboard.
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#3 Post by tfflivemb2 » Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:16 pm

Actually quite a few T23's did come with Wireless.

While I am not sure of the part number, the ones that lay underneath the keyboard are certainly going to be easier to install.

Are you sure that your model wasn't wireless upgradeable? What is your model/type number?

EDIT: Your signature indicates that you have an 866mhz with a 14.1 LCD....I didn't know that there was such a thing.

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#4 Post by leegaard » Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:09 pm

2647-NG8
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#5 Post by morgie » Sun Feb 26, 2006 5:11 pm

Which T23 model types do have antennas built in? Thanks.

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#6 Post by tfflivemb2 » Sun Feb 26, 2006 5:13 pm

There are quite a few models. You can browse through the tawbook.pdf under the T23s and check them out:

ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/pc/pcinstitu ... awbook.pdf

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#7 Post by tfflivemb2 » Sun Feb 26, 2006 5:41 pm

leegaard wrote:2647-NG8
Are you sure that your system has an 866MHz CPU, not doubting you, just suprised?

When I checked Lenovo's site, this is what I found:
Product: ThinkPad T23 2647-NG8 [change]

Operating system: All [change]

Original description: Based on 2647-2TG: PIII-M 1.0GHz (512KB), 256MB RAM, 20.0GB HDD, 14.1 XGA(1024x768) TFT LCD,24x-10x CD-ROM, Modem(MPCI), Ethernet, TV out, Li-Ion battery, Win2000

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#8 Post by lithium726 » Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:33 pm

i am well aware that quite a few T23's had wireless built in.

however, many of the ones that DIDNT did NOT have the correct LCD housing and CANNOT hold the Antenna leads without EXCESSIVE force and very poor reception.
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#9 Post by tfflivemb2 » Mon Feb 27, 2006 5:00 pm

lithium726 wrote:due to the fact that the T23 models which [emphasis added] do not have the antennas built in do not feature the mounts inside the LCD housing, youll have to put hte antennas inside the body of the TP, unless you want to buy a new LCD housing. due to this, you can pick up whatever antennas are cheapest on ebay and mount them under the keyboard.
Actually, I just reread your initial post. I overlooked the word "which", my apologies. And though the room is very tight and not worth the hassle, I do have a friend that managed to add wireless to a T22.

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#10 Post by tp23 » Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:43 pm

Are you sure that your model wasn't wireless upgradeable?
First of all, what constitutes "wireless upgradable"

If your TP2x didnt come with an internal antenna, will adding one make it wireless upgradable regardless of the systemboard model number?

My T23 26472gu is not recognized by IBM/LENOVO on their support/upgrade page. I've tried a couple mini-pci b/g cards without success, I wonder if my TP simply cannot use internal wireless cards even though they installed correctly according to Device Manager.

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#11 Post by tfflivemb2 » Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:37 pm

Wireless upgradeable meant that they came with the antenna installed, but no card. And actually, as I have looked over the tawbook.pdf some more, the T series "upgradeable" models didn't appear until the T30. For the T2x's either they were wireless, or they weren't.

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#12 Post by tp23 » Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:04 am

:roll: So, if I stuffed a 2.4gig coaxial antenna behind my display I could successfully run any b/g mini-pci card and there would be no conflicts between the card and systemboard?

Theres lots of wireless mini-pci cards available, some generic, identified only by the chipset and the more expensive intel/IBM brand name, some called typeII, some called 2200's.........which would work best in a T-23?

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#13 Post by marcos » Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:14 am

Try to get ibm cards of any type or perhaps cisco, a generic one didn't worked in my T30 same symptoms as above. I understand the system somehow prevent non-ibm wireless gear from working.
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#15 Post by lithium726 » Sat Mar 04, 2006 1:26 am

any generic card will work in a T2x system, they dont have a BIOS lock on the MPCI slot. as for mounting the antenna, i wouldnt mount it in the LCD housing. i tried many different configs, and found the best to be under the keyboard. the material the LCD housing is made out of greatly reduces signal reception.
Actually, I just reread your initial post. I overlooked the word "which", my apologies. And though the room is very tight and not worth the hassle, I do have a friend that managed to add wireless to a T22.
ah, alright, gotcha. i tried to mount hte antennas in the LCD on the sides, after i managed to force them in i was met with very poor recepion due to them being covered by the LCD housing and being in contact with the LCD retention bracket.. there is a reason IBM put little plastic areas where the antennas go on the T4x series :P
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#16 Post by Nolonemo » Sat Mar 04, 2006 12:05 pm

Agree with Lithium, I put IBM antennas into a (non-wireless) T22 lid, and the reception was terrible. I got much better under the keyboard.
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#17 Post by skygodtj » Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:48 pm

I've been using a DLink 630+ G card in my, and a couple of AirLink G cards in my kids T23's.. but would like to move away from the card stuck out the side. I dont really use the hardwired ethernet socket and can live without it.. Will the OEM T23 antenna leads for the IBM minipci work with an Atheros card? I would most likely place them under the keyboards..

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#18 Post by skygodtj » Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:58 pm

Forgot to mention the specs/models..

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#19 Post by JHEM » Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:59 pm

Teege,

Get a couple of 3COM a/b/g or the 11g cards with the "X-Jack" antenna off eBay.

Cards work great, no hassles installing internal antennae and the antenna provides a positive power-off function for the card. Antenna out, card is on. Antenna in, card is OFF!

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#20 Post by skygodtj » Wed Jul 05, 2006 12:36 am

tp23 wrote:

My T23 26472gu is not recognized by IBM/LENOVO on their support/upgrade page. I've tried a couple mini-pci b/g cards without success, I wonder if my TP simply cannot use internal wireless cards even though they installed correctly according to Device Manager.
What kind of problems/results were you getting? Were you getting signal indications and just no data, or was it deeper that that? I've spotted a number of IBM wifi cards on eBay, both .11b(junk) and the -2200 .11g cards, both fairly cheap.

I have a T23 2647-8RU, that I want to switch over to internal Wifi, I have a Xircom pcmcia Ethernet/Modem combo card I can use for hardwired apps, I'd rather swap out the Lucent modem for an IBM or Atheros wifi card (depending on which one works better) and lay the antennas under the KB.. which I found a number of on eBay.

Right now I'm use either a DLink G630 or AirLink 11g (depends which one I grab off the counter) for wifi, but I'd just as soon not have anything stickin out the side..

Could you let me/us know what kind of probs you were having with the cards, and what you were using them in?

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#21 Post by Franzis » Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:16 pm

Here are the FRU-Numbers:
26P9197 is the antenna,
08K6087 is a special plastic thing to hold the antenna,
26P9196 is a second plastic thing to hold the antenna,
but all are very expensive.
I hope i could help.

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