PLS HELP! JUST UPGRADE FROM 40GB 4200RPM TO 80GB 5400RPM

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PLS HELP! JUST UPGRADE FROM 40GB 4200RPM TO 80GB 5400RPM

#1 Post by Rower » Thu Feb 23, 2006 4:30 pm

just bought new seagate ST98823A 80gb hdd for my R50E but the problem is i cant make it work bec no operating system. my R50E OS is preinstalled. how can i put preinstalled OS on my new HDD? is ST98823A compatible with R50E? pls HELP, Thanks

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You need to copy one drive to the other

#2 Post by tbessie » Thu Feb 23, 2006 4:46 pm

You need to copy one drive to the other.
To do this, you need both drives accessible at the same time... generally, you'd boot from your current drive, with your new drive attached in the UltraBay via the Hard Drive Adapter or in an external USB enclosure.

Then, you'd use a product like Acronis to clone the partition.

http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/pr ... trueimage/

Then you'd take out your old drive, put in the new drive, and voila! New drive installed!

I'm assuming that the drive you bought uses the same interface your computer expects (that is, if you're current drive uses SATA, then the new drive should be SATA; if the current dirve uses PATA, the new drive should be PATA; etc.).

By the way, there are tons and tons of pages devoted to the topic of upgrading your hard drive. Did you search here first, or with Google? Remember, you can often find plenty of info on what you want by searching.

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#3 Post by Rower » Thu Feb 23, 2006 4:57 pm

thanks for the fast reply, i already search google for my problem but i cant find a solution. and also what will i copy from my old hdd to my new hdd? do i need to format my new hdd? im a novice sorry. tim

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Well...

#4 Post by tbessie » Thu Feb 23, 2006 5:04 pm

You would use something like Acronis (link provided in previous post) to clone your ENTIRE drive. That software will clone the Windows partition, and every other partition, and give you options to resize the partitions on the new drive either proportionate to the new space available (eg. if you'd upgraded from 60gb to 80gb, each partition would take it's share of the new 20gb available), or to your specification (you may not need to make your Windows partition any bigger, for example).

There are many programs that will do this for you, some free, some expensive... I've tried 3 or 4, and I like Acronis the best, as it worked without a hitch and was easy to use and not too expensive.

Look at the link, read their documentation.

Do you have a Hard Drive Adapter, by the way? Or an external USB enclosure?

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#5 Post by Rower » Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:50 pm

thanks for d answer, i already downloaded acronis, but the problem now is when i clone my old hdd, it will be rebooted then it analyze the partition after that it say that disc not found, why is that? did i make it right? and still no clone on the new hdd. pls help again, need the help very badly? thanks a lot

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#6 Post by Rower » Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:51 pm

and also, i put the new hdd on the enclosure. thanks

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Hi again...

#7 Post by tbessie » Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:17 pm

How are you attaching the new hard drive? Is it via a USB connection to an external enclosure? Is that what you mean?

You need to give full information in your answers... remember, this is a very small pipeline to get a LOT of information through.

For example, you need to tell me something like:

"I have an external USB enclosure (model ABC, made by XYZ company). It has a USB 2.0 interface on it, and I connected it to the USB port on my computer (or to a USB hub, or via a PCMCIA card, etc. etc.). When my machine is up and running, Windows can see the drive there. I know this, because I go into the system management console and look at the list of drives" etc.

Can you provide that kind of detail about what you're doing?

Also, have you read further Acronis information? And did you BUY Acronis, or are you using their trial versions? Sometimes trial versions are missing some features you might need, like the ability to clone your system partition, say.

I am lucky, in that I have cloned my partitions using an IBM Hard Drive Adapter in the Ultra Bay slot. If you find that Acronis can't find an attached USB drive at boot time, that could just mean that it can't be done (some computers can't do that), in which case you might want to order a Hard Drive Adapter from Lenovo (assuming you have the UltraBay slots on your machine... I'm not familiar with your machine).

- Tim

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#8 Post by FRiC » Fri Feb 24, 2006 11:16 am

The R50e that the original poster has doesn't have Ultrabay, so it's probably an external USB enclosure...
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Untrue -- it has an ultrabay

#9 Post by tbessie » Fri Feb 24, 2006 3:34 pm

At least, according to this web page, it does, if only for the CD (so he could remove it and use the hard drive adapter):

http://www-306.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-54877

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Re: Untrue -- it has an ultrabay

#10 Post by SeanM » Fri Feb 24, 2006 6:21 pm

tbessie wrote:At least, according to this web page, it does, if only for the CD (so he could remove it and use the hard drive adapter):

http://www-306.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-54877

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You're both right.

Technically, the drives are sorta' ultrabay drives. But they're not readily removable -- you have to take off the keyboard, and remove the screw that holds the drive in. Not something you're really intended to do.

So I'd go with Fric on this one, it's not really an ultrabay.

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How annoying!

#11 Post by tbessie » Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:41 pm

How annoying! Why do they call it an "Ultrabay" in the docs, then, if it's not? Quite misleading, I'd say. :-(

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#12 Post by d lehmann » Sat Feb 25, 2006 1:27 am

I just did the same thng, but with a new travelstar 80gig.
I have a real ultrabay and an ultrabay hdrive adapter, but I had never used R&R before so I tried it.

1 Install the latest version of R&R from IBM and backup the whole drive.
2 After that is completed, use it to burn the backup to cd. (7 cd's)
3 Switch hardrives
4 Boot with the setup R&R cd
5 Follow the instructions to either a factory os install or a os plus data install.
Worked flawlessly.

OR

1 Connect your computer to a network via cat5
2 Boot your computer with the Acronis Ti boot cd or Rescue cd and do a complete Cdrive image to a shared network drive.
3 Switch hardrives
4 Boot with the Ti boot disk again and log onto network share, find your files and restore to the new Seagate.
If youdon't have one, ask around for a network to borrow for an hour and a half
Acronis has many bugs in the new version and that is why your external won't clone properly.

OR

If you have the EZgig software that came with the ultrabay hardrive adapter, that you can't use, it is very similar to Acronis, but a lot more reliable.

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Hmm...

#13 Post by tbessie » Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:37 am

So you had problems with Acronis? What were the issues?
It worked swimmingly for me when I cloned both my system drive and my secondary. No problems at all.

- Tim

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Re: Hmm...

#14 Post by d lehmann » Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:10 pm

tbessie wrote:So you had problems with Acronis? What were the issues?
It worked swimmingly for me when I cloned both my system drive and my secondary. No problems at all.

- Tim
No, personally I haven't, but have had many customers that do.

It seems they have a habit of rushing out new releases, with major bugs, but eventually the versions become quite stable. The recent Ti9 release created another new wave of failures but in now settling. Users should be aware of this in case data is involved.

One major flaw is the driver support in linux (used to restore), of many chipsets for external drives.

I stopped rcommending it to clients, unless they use it under strict tested guidelines, but personally I love it.

You can find Ti problems here

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/forumdis ... 6a9ba&f=65

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