Z60t closing cover rearranges icons

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o1sowise · #1 Post by **o1sowise** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 6:50 pm

Any idea why my icons get rearranged every time I open the cover?

I currently have my desktop set to 1280x768. I have my icons and windows stretched out to utilize the wide screen.

If I close the cover now, then open it, the icons rearrange themselves almost as if the screen was not wide. Any open windows that I have are shrunk too as if the screen was not wide.

Help!

GoofyG28 · #2 Post by **GoofyG28** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 7:04 pm

My situation is similar. Sometimes, the wallpaper is reverted back to the image of the hand on a ThinkPad (mirror image). I use Webshots for my wallpaper.

kru-inc · #3 Post by **kru-inc** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 1:44 pm

I was hoping the video driver update (below) was supposed to have addressed the auto-switching between video schemes when the lid is closed. But, it didn't clear it up.

For now, I've set my CTRL+F7 to flipping between the schemes. That way, I can just switch back when I reopen the lid. Sucks.

See:

Video driver (Intel 900 - 910GML/915GM) for Windows 2000/XP - ThinkPad R52 (18xx), T43 (18xx), X41, X41 Tablet, Z60m, Z60t
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-58878

#4 Post by **GomJabbar** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:41 am

http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=20979

o1sowise · #5 Post by **o1sowise** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 5:36 pm

I opened a problem via Submit a request a week ago.

Still no response.

I'll keep you all informed.

erasmus99 · #6 Post by **erasmus99** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:44 pm

I have a z60t too and this happened to me.

All I did to fix it is change the resolution back in the display properties when it occured. It hasn't happened since, thankfully, since it was quite annoying.

o1sowise · #7 Post by **o1sowise** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:59 am

erasmus99 wrote:I have a z60t too and this happened to me.

All I did to fix it is change the resolution back in the display properties when it occured. It hasn't happened since, thankfully, since it was quite annoying.

I wish it was only once. It happens every time I close and open the cover...

El2 Camino · #8 Post by **El2 Camino** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 11:31 pm

Hi everyone,

I have my z60t with the same problem. After lid close/open, the display turns to 1024x768 and it is a hassle to change back and forth. So I've written an Autoit3 script for this. Just want to share with all of you.
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Code: Select all


; Author:  El2 Camino
; Required: autoit3.exe
; Script Function:
;    Set Resolution to Maximum. 
;    Useful for 1024x768 -> 1280X768 on z60t when close/open lid

Func GoDisplaySetting()
  Run("control desk.cpl ,3")
  WinWaitActive("Display Properties")
  Send("!S{End}{Enter}") ; Max Resolution available
EndFunc

;;MAIN
AutoItSetOption("SendKeyDelay", 5)


GoDisplaySetting()

------------------------

Enjoy!

El2

o1sowise · #9 Post by **o1sowise** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 10:42 am

Mine is more subtle. The resolution does not change, it just looks like it did. The resolution stays at 1280x768, but the icons rearrange themselves as if the screen were reset to 1024x768. e.g. every icon that's on the right 256 pixels is moved over to the left (as if the right 256 pixels didn't exist). It's almost as if the OS doesn't know it's a wide screen.

btw - still no response from IBM/Lenovo on the problem I submitted back in April...

#10 Post by **GomJabbar** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:24 pm

Here is another thread that offers some possible solutions. I do not have this problem myself.

http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=22609

djm · #11 Post by **djm** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 10:41 pm

I've been a Dell user for years, but liked the rock solid casing on a thinkpad and heard so many people rave about them so I tried one out and have my new 2 week old Z60t here.

Unfortunately it's experiencing this "closing lid" issue where the screen resolution changes from the default 1280x760 to 1024x768. That happens after much delay with a black screen when reopening as well. Honestly I've never seen anything like this on any of my Dell's or any other notebook for that matter. I really want to like the thinkpad but this is only ONE of many problems with it. It just seems to have an overall clunky feel to the general operation of it.

I'm guessing it probably has to do with bloating up the thinkpad with all the "thinkvantage" crap on top of XP which is already bloated.

Anyway, this one (of many) problems with the closing lid changing the resolution and taking up to 30 seconds sometimes to even turn the screen ON (it stays black for 30 seconds or more sometimes requiring a reboot) when I open the lid (I have "no action" set for lid closing) is totally unacceptable. I can't believe so many of us are having this problem with no resolution.

The IBM/Lenovo support site is horrible too. There's only this ESC+ thing on there for hardware issues. Where is the support to describe problems like this? I looked for hours on the web site and couldn't find anything. Partly the reason I'm here too hoping to get help from the community.

Not a good experience so far with this machine. I still have a couple weeks to return it and I'm seriously considering it.

Anyway, I guess since there's no solution to this so far from this site, is there anyone that knows how to actually reach online support for Lenovo (that doesn't involve a hardware ticket)?

erasmus99 · #12 Post by **erasmus99** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 11:42 pm

First of all, the new bios/display drivers proport to fix this issue as of recently. They are available on the Lenovo support site.

Secondly, as I said earlier in this post, I managed to fix it in my z60t by going into the display properties after I close and reopen my lid. It used to go black, but after it changed the resolution, I decided to change the resolution of both monitors, as it had two there for some reason, to the same resolution. The result being that I could close the lid and reopen it with no problems. The screen takes a second to light up from black, but it is has done so flawlessly since I went into the settings.

Has anyone tried this?

djm · #13 Post by **djm** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 2:06 am

erasmus99 wrote:First of all, the new bios/display drivers proport to fix this issue as of recently. They are available on the Lenovo support site.

I've been trying to install the new drivers, but each time I try I get an error message box that says "X One or more files that are required for installation are either missing or corrupt. Setup will exit."

I've downloaded the setup several times and to several different locations/directories and each time the result is the same. Anyone else hitting this? I'm getting this download straight off the ibm/lenovo site.

That may or may not fix the problem. I don't know because the setup appears to be corrupt. Is there some other location I can try downloading it from?

Also, my second display is set to the same resolution, though it's not active (ie. not extended to or set to clone or anything).

djm · #14 Post by **djm** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 1:33 pm

Tried booting into SAFE MODE too to install that new video driver and got the same error. Anyone able to install this on their Z60t?

o1sowise · #15 Post by **o1sowise** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:25 am

I tried upgrading all Lenovo programs over the weekend. For some reason, the System Updater did not notice it was downlevel, so I updated it manually. Also, BIOS was downlevel and coincidentally the latest BIOS fixed a resolution problem when reopening the cover. Strange how the updater didn't show me either of these items. I also updated the Embedded Controller, Presentation Director and Productivity Center ---> all were downlevel (seems like I have a new monthly housekeeping item to keep an eye on).

Anyway, not one of these items fixed my problems. Four hours of research, downloading, booting and rebooting, and no progress (other than upgraded software, which is usually a good thing anyway).

IBM service will be here in under an hour.
Wish me luck!

christopher_wolf · #16 Post by **christopher_wolf** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:13 pm

o1sowise wrote:I tried upgrading all Lenovo programs over the weekend. For some reason, the System Updater did not notice it was downlevel, so I updated it manually. Also, BIOS was downlevel and coincidentally the latest BIOS fixed a resolution problem when reopening the cover. Strange how the updater didn't show me either of these items. I also updated the Embedded Controller, Presentation Director and Productivity Center ---> all were downlevel (seems like I have a new monthly housekeeping item to keep an eye on).

Anyway, not one of these items fixed my problems. Four hours of research, downloading, booting and rebooting, and no progress (other than upgraded software, which is usually a good thing anyway).

IBM service will be here in under an hour.
Wish me luck!

If you have the option, use the Software Installer instead. It seems to work better than System Update for most things.

o1sowise · #17 Post by **o1sowise** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:19 pm

christopher_wolf wrote:If you have the option, use the Software Installer instead. It seems to work better than System Update for most things.

Neither seems to show me everything I need.
Neither showed me that the items listed above were downlevel

o1sowise · #18 Post by **o1sowise** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:33 pm

o1sowise wrote:IBM service will be here in under an hour.
Wish me luck!

He could not believe what he saw. He called support and they could not believe it either.

They ordered me a new system board (backordered, maybe a week). They 'suspect' this 'may' correct both problems (this one and that one). We (the technician and myself) believe they did not send him over with a new system board because they didn't believe what I told them was real. Luckily for me, I was able to reproduce it everytime!

Holding my breath in New Jersey.

scsgoal31 · #19 Post by **scsgoal31** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 5:24 pm

o1sowise wrote:
o1sowise wrote:IBM service will be here in under an hour.
Wish me luck!
He could not believe what he saw. He called support and they could not believe it either.

They ordered me a new system board (backordered, maybe a week). They 'suspect' this 'may' correct both problems (this one and that one). We (the technician and myself) believe they did not send him over with a new system board because they didn't believe what I told them was real. Luckily for me, I was able to reproduce it everytime!

Holding my breath in New Jersey.

They have a whole bunch of system boards to replace if that works..because it's an issue on every Z60t I'm fairly certain.

ThinkZ61 · #20 Post by **ThinkZ61** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 5:44 pm

I have the same problem with my new Z61t too. It came with Bios 1.06 and they have a new version 1.08 on the web now. I will try installing the new Bios and see what happens.

Another thing I noticed, I disabled my LAN NIC card since I use wireless. Windows automatically enables it everytime I restart my laptop.

El2 Camino · #21 Post by **El2 Camino** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:56 am

I did some researches including the previous script. Actually there is a way to fix the problem.

1) Fn-F7 and Click "Manage Scheme" (or Alt-M)
2) Move the cursor to "My Normal Settings"
3) Click *Capture*

This solved my 2 problems: resolution and default wall paper.

My resulotion now is fixed at 1280x768 and wall paper is no more "finger/Keyboard" when I open and close the lid.

It would be interesting to hear from you guys if this works for you.

El2

o1sowise · #22 Post by **o1sowise** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:24 am

El2 Camino wrote:I did some researches including the previous script. Actually there is a way to fix the problem.

1) Fn-F7 and Click "Manage Scheme" (or Alt-M)
2) Move the cursor to "My Normal Settings"
3) Click *Capture*

This solved my 2 problems: resolution and default wall paper.

My resulotion now is fixed at 1280x768 and wall paper is no more "finger/Keyboard" when I open and close the lid.

It would be interesting to hear from you guys if this works for you.

El2

Actually, I thought about this very idea yesterday. It sounded like it would work.
But, when I opened the lid, I briefly saw a different resolution (all icons and fonts appeared larger), then the screen went black, then the resolution settled back to 1280x768 and all my icons were rearranged.

#23 Post by **GomJabbar** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:02 am

If it was me, I would try uninstalling Presentation Director, and see if the problem remains. Besides, you can always reinstall it later if you want. I do not believe most people use this program anyway. It is primarily there for managing presentations and such on an external display.

o1sowise · #24 Post by **o1sowise** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:14 am

GomJabbar wrote:If it was me, I would try uninstalling Presentation Director, and see if the problem remains. Besides, you can always reinstall it later if you want. I do not believe most people use this program anyway. It is primarily there for managing presentations and such on an external display.

Good idea. I've tried so many things, I don't remember if I tried it with this uninstalled. I think so, but it's worth trying it again.

[edit]
No luck. Same exact behavior regardless of if Presentation Director is installed or not. Luckily, I found this to help me after each test.
[/edit]

scsgoal31 · #25 Post by **scsgoal31** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:32 pm

o1sowise wrote:
El2 Camino wrote:I did some researches including the previous script. Actually there is a way to fix the problem.

1) Fn-F7 and Click "Manage Scheme" (or Alt-M)
2) Move the cursor to "My Normal Settings"
3) Click *Capture*

This solved my 2 problems: resolution and default wall paper.

My resulotion now is fixed at 1280x768 and wall paper is no more "finger/Keyboard" when I open and close the lid.

It would be interesting to hear from you guys if this works for you.

El2
Actually, I thought about this very idea yesterday. It sounded like it would work.
But, when I opened the lid, I briefly saw a different resolution (all icons and fonts appeared larger), then the screen went black, then the resolution settled back to 1280x768 and all my icons were rearranged.

This is what is currently happening with me.

Uninstalling Presentation Director did not help.

#26 Post by **GomJabbar** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:56 pm

scsgoal31 wrote:Uninstalling Presentation Director did not help.

Well, I thought Presentation Director was the culprit. Apparently I was wrong. My next guess would be the Video driver and software. You can't really do without that though. I hope you guys/gals find the solution to your problem.

One way to find the problem would be to do a clean install of Windows, then see how it behaves. Then next install the Video driver and software and see if that makes a difference. I think the only way to really get to the crux of the problem is to start with a clean slate so-to-speak, then add drivers and software, rebooting and testing often until the problem recurs.

o1sowise · #27 Post by **o1sowise** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:03 am

I already updated all software that the ThinkVantage Software Installer and System Update said could be updated (including the video drivers). No help.

El2 Camino · #28 Post by **El2 Camino** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:26 pm

o1sowise wrote:
El2 Camino wrote:I did some researches including the previous script. Actually there is a way to fix the problem.

1) Fn-F7 and Click "Manage Scheme" (or Alt-M)
2) Move the cursor to "My Normal Settings"
3) Click *Capture*

This solved my 2 problems: resolution and default wall paper.

My resulotion now is fixed at 1280x768 and wall paper is no more "finger/Keyboard" when I open and close the lid.

It would be interesting to hear from you guys if this works for you.

El2
Actually, I thought about this very idea yesterday. It sounded like it would work.
But, when I opened the lid, I briefly saw a different resolution (all icons and fonts appeared larger), then the screen went black, then the resolution settled back to 1280x768 and all my icons were rearranged.

John, in you case, the resolution is correct. The problem you want to fix is icon arrangement. So why don't you disable "Auto Arrange" of the icons and see if you like.

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El2

ThinkZ61 · #29 Post by **ThinkZ61** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:23 pm

We have to wait a Bios Update from Lenovo/IBM for z61ts. I searched on the Lenovo/IBM technical support and looks like almost all ThinkPads with integrated graphics cards had this problem and Bios updates were posted to fix this problem. So, we just have to be patient.

Resolution Problem Search Results

scsgoal31 · #30 Post by **scsgoal31** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:13 pm

ThinkZ61 wrote:We have to wait a Bios Update from Lenovo/IBM for z61ts. I searched on the Lenovo/IBM technical support and looks like almost all ThinkPads with integrated graphics cards had this problem and Bios updates were posted to fix this problem. So, we just have to be patient.

Resolution Problem Search Results

The problem is a BIOS update was already supposed to fix this, it says it did..but it didn't.

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-61687

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