NEED LCD ideas for 1600x1200 off T42 w/64MB Radeon 9600

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Sbrehaut · #1 Post by **Sbrehaut** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 10:37 pm

What are fellow forum users using for 2nd LCD monitors externally, through DVI 1600 x 1200 support-18/19" or higher?

My old CRT finally died so an LCD is on my hit list. Any good suggestions for my T42 that provide a great display, mostly for text, graphics and video than for full game performance? Ones that also are easy to rotate and use portrait/landscape, connect to other sources.

A second related problem is: Since I've recently upgraded from a T40 I'm not quite used to SXGA+ in the usual distance (2.5 FT) from my eyes when docked on my desk with wireless kbd/mse that I was used to with regular XGA. So I plan to pull the dock to the side and closer (next to new large LCD obtained above), but I would love to know the right tricks to make the screen easier to see. I've tried some suggested tricks like using ClearType, dot pitch at 96, using the FN magnifier. Nothing seems to do the trick. I'm tempted to try the Liguid view software scaling product too. Any thoughts?

Thanks

taphil · #2 Post by **taphil** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 12:45 am

For the best image quality, color, sharpness, and text and video display, definitely consider the Samsung 213T. I shopped around for a 1600x1200 display recently, and nothing comes close. I don't play any games, so I didn't take that into consideration. It easily rotates and has DVI and VGA input.

Other suggestions:

Dell 2001FP and other 21" variants (from LG and Viewsonic) that use the same LG-Phillips LCD - good for games, but horrible LCD due to "screen door" effects, not-so-great colors, uneven backlight, and glittery display coating.

Sony 21" LCD - even worse than the above.

23" widescreen displays from Apple, HP, BenQ (all use the same LG LCD) - nice, but color and sharpness are lacking, IMO, compared to the Samsung. The HP has VGA, DVI, S-video, composite, and component input, I believe.

#3 Post by **BillMorrow** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 1:31 am

did you look at the IBM 20 inch display..??

also, FWIW, you need the port rep, mini-dock or dock - II to use the digital connection..

trying to remember which configueration will not allow 1200x1600 on the external display without fudging the drivers from ATI..
but its late and the fog is rolling into my brain..

gosha16 · #4 Post by **gosha16** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 8:52 am

i can tell you its not the 2001fp cause i use that on my 9800 pro for my desktop and it rotates just fine

btw, i LOVE this monitor, the user above is the first time ive seen someone talk so negativly about this monitor. check out the anandtech review.

#5 Post by **BillMorrow** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 9:07 am

gosha16 wrote:i can tell you its not the 2001fp cause i use that on my 9800 pro for my desktop and it rotates just fine

btw, i LOVE this monitor, the user above is the first time ive seen someone talk so negativly about this monitor. check out the anandtech review.

which user above.. ?

FWIW, i like my three FP2000's and would get FP2001 given the spare cash..

i have seen the IBM 20inch (cust bought it) and i like that one too since it has thin bezel and great color..

#6 Post by **JaneL** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 9:51 am

>i have seen the IBM 20inch (cust bought it) and i like that one too since >it has thin bezel and great color..
>

At one point, I had an IBM and and NEC 17" to compare, and one of the things I liked about the IBM was the wide bezel because it blocked out distractions that I could see beyond the edges of my screen. That was probably just where I was sitting at the time, though, since I'm able to use my notebook with a thin bezel with no problems.

GreenLight · #7 Post by **GreenLight** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 10:53 am

taphil wrote: Dell 2001FP and other 21" variants (from LG and Viewsonic) that use the same LG-Phillips LCD - good for games, but horrible LCD due to "screen door" effects, not-so-great colors, uneven backlight, and glittery display coating.

I have seen other posters making similar claims about the Dell 2001FP, but I actually own one of these, and I have no such trouble with mine. It is the finest display screen that I have ever owned, and that is with a large budget and a 20 year history of buying equipment.
No "screen door" effects, fantastic color, great backlighting, no "glittery" coating. I'm going to buy three more!

Leon · #8 Post by **Leon** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 11:03 am

how moch $$$ are they?

Sbrehaut · #9 Post by **Sbrehaut** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 11:06 am

taphil wrote:For the best image quality, color, sharpness, and text and video display, definitely consider the Samsung 213T. I shopped around for a 1600x1200 display recently, and nothing comes close. I don't play any games, so I didn't take that into consideration. It easily rotates and has DVI and VGA input.

Other suggestions:

Dell 2001FP and other 21" variants (from LG and Viewsonic) that use the same LG-Phillips LCD - good for games, but horrible LCD due to "screen door" effects, not-so-great colors, uneven backlight, and glittery display coating.

Sony 21" LCD - even worse than the above.

23" widescreen displays from Apple, HP, BenQ (all use the same LG LCD) - nice, but color and sharpness are lacking, IMO, compared to the Samsung. The HP has VGA, DVI, S-video, composite, and component input, I believe.

Thanks Taphil!

Also on my shortlist but have not yest seen are:
Planar PX212M, good video connectivity though .27 dot pitch
Viewsonic VP201B

I'm worndering if anyone currently uses those too and has any user comments.

Sbrehaut · #10 Post by **Sbrehaut** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 11:24 am

morrow wrote:did you look at the IBM 20 inch display..??

also, FWIW, you need the port rep, mini-dock or dock - II to use the digital connection..

trying to remember which configueration will not allow 1200x1600 on the external display without fudging the drivers from ATI..
but its late and the fog is rolling into my brain..

Thanks Bill!

I have a Mini-dock and will consider that IBM display.

Get out of that fog kind sir.

taphil · #11 Post by **taphil** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 2:14 pm

I had the Dell 2001FP for 36 hours and sent it back because I couldn't stand the "screen door" effect, which essentially looks like tiny horizontal black lines running across the screen, especially prominant with gray and bright colors. I think every 2001FP has that issue, but some users notice it and others don't. I have 15/20 vision, and sitting 24 inches away from the display my eyes were always drawn to the lines. Figuratively, I tried hard to get over it, but I couldn't. I got it for $698 total (from Dell Outlet, so it was refurbed but came actually brand new with no dead/stuck pixels but had backlight leaking from the upper right corner), which was a great deal for my wallet but not my eyes. So I spent $300 more to get the Samsung 213T and have no regrets whatsoever.

As for dot pitch - on an LCD, dot pitch is fixed by the native resolution, meaning divide the total surface by the number of pixels and what you get is that the pixel size is fixed for every screen of that size and reslution. In other words, every single 20" LCD with 1600x1200 resolution will have the same dot pitch or pixel size.

The Viewsonic probably uses the same LCD as the Dell, so I'd get the Dell instead if you decide on the Viewsonic because it's cheaper. And I think it looks better too.

alins · #12 Post by **alins** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 8:04 pm

Dell 2001FP - fantastic monitor with 4 USB 2.0 ports also.

From techbargains.com:

Go to Dell Home Electronics and Accessories.

Dell 2001FP Digital 20" LCD Flat Panel 1600x1200, 400:1 contrast ratio, 16ms response time, DVI/SVideo/Composite $999 - 25% code - $30 coupon = $719.25 shipped free (use $30 off $400 Code: P4?X1KF1S0FT0K Exp 7/23 11:59pm CT AND 25% off the Dell 2001FP Flat Panel Monitor Coupon Code: 9TQTSRPK$JCDST).

NEED LCD ideas for 1600x1200 off T42 w/64MB Radeon 9600

NEED LCD ideas for 1600x1200 off T42 w/64MB Radeon 9600

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