It seems that x60/s is not a popular machine

X60/X61 series specific matters only.
Message
Author
mzd
Freshman Member
Posts: 105
Joined: Wed Jun 22, 2005 11:14 am
Location: San Jose, CA

It seems that x60/s is not a popular machine

#1 Post by mzd » Sun Mar 19, 2006 3:14 pm

So few comments here.

CHoPSTICK89
Freshman Member
Posts: 65
Joined: Tue Feb 21, 2006 9:05 pm

#2 Post by CHoPSTICK89 » Sun Mar 19, 2006 3:54 pm

I think its because many people have not recieved it yet

christopher_wolf
Special Member
Posts: 5741
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 1:24 pm
Location: UC Berkeley, California
Contact:

Re: It seems that x60/s is not a popular machine

#3 Post by christopher_wolf » Sun Mar 19, 2006 4:05 pm

mzd wrote:So few comments here.
This doesn't meant that it isn't popular; just that people haven't gotten them and tried them out enough to have anything significant to report.

Chances are, we will be seeing more X60s related threads in the next month or so, but don't quote me on that. ;) :)
IBM ThinkPad T43 Model 2668-72U 14.1" SXGA+ 1GB |IBM 701c

~o/
I met someone who looks a lot like you.
She does the things you do.
But she is an IBM.
/~o ---ELO from "Yours Truly 2059"

edbern
Posts: 29
Joined: Tue May 10, 2005 10:04 pm

Re: It seems that x60/s is not a popular machine

#4 Post by edbern » Sun Mar 19, 2006 11:14 pm

christopher_wolf wrote:
mzd wrote:So few comments here.
This doesn't meant that it isn't popular; just that people haven't gotten them and tried them out enough to have anything significant to report.

Chances are, we will be seeing more X60s related threads in the next month or so, but don't quote me on that. ;) :)
Indeed. In fact, I confess to having spent a lot more time here BEFORE I got my new X60s (17044DU) -- since then I've been spending most of my free time using it!

So let me also say: It's a terrific machine, by FAR the best of my previous X31, X40, and X41. How? Most of all speed, the dual core is very obvious improvement. Bigger and FASTER hard drive. Perfectly good keyboard -- as good as any X I've owned, plus improvements now in layout, audio switches, "hard" switch for wireless -- and big improvements in the various THinkpad utilities that are bundled. Plus it has greater memory capacity -- eventually up to 4gb (seen by the system as 3GB or so) -- as opposed the 1.5GB limit in my X41.

Other than an overwarm palm rest when it's recharging, there is nothing I don't love about this machine.

And oh, I forgot -- 6-7 hours of battery life on the eight-cell!
____________
proud owner of thinkpad x60s, with x41, X40, x30 and x31 in my past.

sonoma
Freshman Member
Posts: 59
Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2005 2:40 pm
Location: Australia

#5 Post by sonoma » Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:34 am

To edbern,

Does your X60s get warm while using it near the palm rest area?
You mentioned that it does get warm while recharging.
X61, Core 2 Duo T7250 2.00 GHz, Vista 64-bit, 4 GB DDR2, Mtron SSD 32GB, 4965AGN, Bluetooth, GMA X3100, Fingerprint, 8 Cell, SanDisk 4GB Extreme III SDHC

NJ_IT
Freshman Member
Posts: 109
Joined: Mon May 02, 2005 11:37 pm
Location: Relocated To Tokyo,Japan

Re: It seems that x60/s is not a popular machine

#6 Post by NJ_IT » Mon Mar 20, 2006 1:01 am

edbern wrote: Indeed. In fact, I confess to having spent a lot more time here BEFORE I got my new X60s (17044DU) -- since then I've been spending most of my free time using it!
Me too! I have been using My 17044JU all day long.
It has been already upgraded original 60GB/5400rpm Harddrive with new Seagate 100GB/7200rpm .
X60s's performance is amazing! Almost 70%~ 80% upper than previous X41(1.5GHz) in benchmark.
I didn't feel any thermal issue so far.Fan is very quiet.
But I have not tried writing of optional Double Layer super multi drive purchased in web.
X60Tablet (6366AJU:Replaced 12"SXGA+)1.83GHz,4.0GB,Fujitsu MHZ2320BH G2(320GB/5400RPM),Atheros Wifi,3yrs.
T60P(200784U)2.16GHz,2G,100G7200RPM

korny
Posts: 8
Joined: Tue Mar 07, 2006 9:48 pm
Location: Melbourne, Australia

#7 Post by korny » Mon Mar 20, 2006 2:26 am

I'm also lurking rather than posting, for two reasons: I'm still waiting for my X60 to arrive, and there is such good information about the X60 available, there isn't much need to post queries.

I was debating between a Sony sz series and an X60, and despite the better theoretical specs of the sz (higher resolution screen, adequate 3d card, built in optical drive, all for a similar weight) the X60 won in the end - both because of the Thinkpad's much better reputation, and the dramatically better info available. I'm planning to mainly run Linux, and sites like thinkwiki.org make life much much easier.

edbern
Posts: 29
Joined: Tue May 10, 2005 10:04 pm

#8 Post by edbern » Mon Mar 20, 2006 2:47 am

sonoma wrote:To edbern,

Does your X60s get warm while using it near the palm rest area?
You mentioned that it does get warm while recharging.
The area to the right of the mouse buttons gets very warm when the AC is plugged in and the battery is charging...
____________
proud owner of thinkpad x60s, with x41, X40, x30 and x31 in my past.

amgdoc
Freshman Member
Posts: 106
Joined: Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:58 am

#9 Post by amgdoc » Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:52 am

i'm lurking around here as well and waiting for my university to offer it (at a nice discount) before i buy it.....still waiting!
thinkpad x40, type:2372-9EU, (2x) 512MB, 40GB HD (4200rpm), 802.11abg, CDC bluetooth

thinkpad x60s, type:1702-94U, (2X) 512MB, 40GB HD (5400rpm), 802.11abg, Ultralight LCD.

Herr Yunta
Freshman Member
Posts: 56
Joined: Fri Apr 30, 2004 8:44 am

#10 Post by Herr Yunta » Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:19 pm

Did you really get 6 hours from the battery? This is my biggest contention with leaving my X40 and upgrading. I want to make sure the battery life will be at least the same. The energy consumed by the larger hdd's is more.
3508-CTO 4GB X25-M 80GB 60Y3183 bluetooth Win 7 Pro 32bit (60Y3195 soon)

nickpoore
Freshman Member
Posts: 75
Joined: Sat Feb 18, 2006 6:01 pm

#11 Post by nickpoore » Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:56 pm

Battery life - I get 6 hours when I turn the screen down.

It really depends on what you're doing with it.
You really need to turn down the screen to save battery life.

I would not want to have to put my life on the battery lasting six hours; and if I did I would be turning off a lot of things (wireless, etc) and turning the screen down.

I make a point of having chargers close by; one is left in my office, one is left at my home, one is left in my car (AC/DC), one is left in my laptop bag.

pianowizard
Senior ThinkPadder
Senior ThinkPadder
Posts: 8366
Joined: Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:07 am
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Contact:

#12 Post by pianowizard » Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:59 pm

Everyone here who owns an X60 or X60s seems to be in love with it, but I am not interested in getting one because it's quite a bit heavier (3.0 - 4.13 lbs) than the X40 that I already own. Hopefully, by the time the warranty for my X40 expires in late 2008, there will be an X-series Thinkpad that's lighter than the X40.
Microsoft Surface 3 (Atom x7-Z8700 / 4GB / 128GB / LTE)
Dell OptiPlex 9010 SFF (Core i3-3220 / 8GB / 8TB); HP 8300 Elite minitower (Core i7-3770 / 16GB / 9.25TB)
Acer T272HUL; Crossover 404K; Dell 3008WFP, U2715H, U2711, P2416D; Monoprice 10734; QNIX QHD2410R; Seiki Pro SM40UNP

PTzero
Posts: 43
Joined: Thu Jun 24, 2004 10:25 am

#13 Post by PTzero » Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:03 pm

Mine just shipped today, so I'll have something to post about it in a few days :D

Herr Yunta
Freshman Member
Posts: 56
Joined: Fri Apr 30, 2004 8:44 am

#14 Post by Herr Yunta » Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:53 pm

It would be worth the .25lbs to me to upgrade from a 1.2GHz X40 to an X60s to have a substantially faster hdd. However, I do not want to trade any battery life. Currently I get about six hours out of the extended battery using it about 75% of the time with the screen at brightest and the wireless on. In fact this is partly the reason I have been considering going down to a X32.
3508-CTO 4GB X25-M 80GB 60Y3183 bluetooth Win 7 Pro 32bit (60Y3195 soon)

plucky duck
Sophomore Member
Posts: 170
Joined: Sat Jun 26, 2004 10:50 am

#15 Post by plucky duck » Tue Mar 21, 2006 6:57 pm

Are the duo core CPUs lower voltage than the P-M in the X41? And do the X60 extended life battery fit the X40/41s?

For an ultraportable and my usage pattern, I wouldn't benefit from a faster hard drive. My CPU is mostly idle, so I definitely would not benefit from upgrading to an X60.

I chose the X41 mainly for it's size and weight. Going to X60 would be a step backward.
I am Canadian

pianowizard
Senior ThinkPadder
Senior ThinkPadder
Posts: 8366
Joined: Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:07 am
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Contact:

#16 Post by pianowizard » Tue Mar 21, 2006 10:02 pm

plucky duck wrote:I chose the X41 mainly for it's size and weight. Going to X60 would be a step backward.
The X40 is slightly lighter than the X41.
Microsoft Surface 3 (Atom x7-Z8700 / 4GB / 128GB / LTE)
Dell OptiPlex 9010 SFF (Core i3-3220 / 8GB / 8TB); HP 8300 Elite minitower (Core i7-3770 / 16GB / 9.25TB)
Acer T272HUL; Crossover 404K; Dell 3008WFP, U2715H, U2711, P2416D; Monoprice 10734; QNIX QHD2410R; Seiki Pro SM40UNP

dorin
Junior Member
Junior Member
Posts: 363
Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:24 am
Location: Zürich, Switzerland
Contact:

#17 Post by dorin » Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:28 am

glad i see i'm not the only x40 user having doubts to update or not to x60, i was very very close to do it, till i realise that the x40 doking wont work in x60 (in switzerland you have to get them separately) and the most important the batteries (i have 2 X 4 cell and a 8 cell- which mostly i had around 16hrs all of them)....

so, new docking, new batteries, even heavier (some says though the website says x60s is lighter and thinner- doubtly)...as pianowizard said, i hope by 2008 when my warranty expires too to have better options than now.
X40 (2386H6G) 1.4Ghz 1.5Gb 40Gb

louise
Posts: 14
Joined: Tue Mar 21, 2006 11:35 pm

clicking hard drive on the x60?

#18 Post by louise » Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:12 pm

My experience, and that of several posters, is that the hard drive on the x40 clicks a lot. I've read that it's a result of the heads "reparking" themselves or something like that.

Does the hard drive on the X60 make an audible clicking sound like the x40 does?

Thanks.

Louise

pianowizard
Senior ThinkPadder
Senior ThinkPadder
Posts: 8366
Joined: Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:07 am
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Contact:

#19 Post by pianowizard » Wed Mar 22, 2006 5:26 pm

My X40 has the same clicking "problem" and it may be the only thing that I don't like about this otherwise perfect machine.
Microsoft Surface 3 (Atom x7-Z8700 / 4GB / 128GB / LTE)
Dell OptiPlex 9010 SFF (Core i3-3220 / 8GB / 8TB); HP 8300 Elite minitower (Core i7-3770 / 16GB / 9.25TB)
Acer T272HUL; Crossover 404K; Dell 3008WFP, U2715H, U2711, P2416D; Monoprice 10734; QNIX QHD2410R; Seiki Pro SM40UNP

ajwells
Posts: 22
Joined: Sat Mar 04, 2006 1:34 pm

No clicking...

#20 Post by ajwells » Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:58 am

No clicking at all from the X60... I have the 100GB disc and its completely silent and clickless... no constant access unless one of the background programs is running... they really did get it right this time

This is a no-brainer machine for those considering it... its a very well designed and executed compact machine... small and light, well balanced, well designed and built, sturdy, silent, relatively cool running, dependable and functional... what else do you want?

Ajw

ajwells
Posts: 22
Joined: Sat Mar 04, 2006 1:34 pm

No clicking...

#21 Post by ajwells » Fri Mar 24, 2006 1:00 am

No clicking at all from the X60... I have the 100GB disc and its completely silent and clickless... no constant access unless one of the background programs is running... they really did get it right this time

This is a no-brainer machine for those considering it... its a very well designed and executed compact machine... small and light, well balanced, well designed and built, sturdy, silent, relatively cool running, dependable and functional... what else do you want?

Ajw

Zeitgeist
Senior Member
Senior Member
Posts: 500
Joined: Sat May 08, 2004 2:11 am
Location: EU

Re: No clicking...

#22 Post by Zeitgeist » Sat Mar 25, 2006 10:21 am

ajwells wrote: ... what else do you want?
DVI!
Regards, Zeitgeist

christopher_wolf
Special Member
Posts: 5741
Joined: Sat Oct 08, 2005 1:24 pm
Location: UC Berkeley, California
Contact:

Re: No clicking...

#23 Post by christopher_wolf » Sat Mar 25, 2006 12:44 pm

Zeitgeist wrote:
ajwells wrote: ... what else do you want?
DVI!
:lol: I think I will say that is the only other port I could want on a Thinkpad, but I will draw the line at putting in a digital audio port; that should probably stay on the docking station. :)
IBM ThinkPad T43 Model 2668-72U 14.1" SXGA+ 1GB |IBM 701c

~o/
I met someone who looks a lot like you.
She does the things you do.
But she is an IBM.
/~o ---ELO from "Yours Truly 2059"

DavidNZ
Senior Member
Senior Member
Posts: 554
Joined: Sat Jul 03, 2004 3:18 am
Location: New Zealand

#24 Post by DavidNZ » Sat Apr 01, 2006 2:36 am

dorin wrote:glad i see i'm not the only x40 user having doubts to update or not to x60
Count me in this group as well. My X40's warranty is up in July of 2007. Am waiting to see what the X61 (?) will look like. For me, weight is the critical fact. Granted, doesn't sound like a huge difference between the 60 and 40 in terms of weight...
X40 (2371-6EM) w/ 768 RAM
XPP SP2
DLINK DI-614+

pianowizard
Senior ThinkPadder
Senior ThinkPadder
Posts: 8366
Joined: Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:07 am
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Contact:

#25 Post by pianowizard » Sat Apr 01, 2006 5:27 pm

At present, the lightest X-series notebook available on lenovo.com is an X40, which is 2.7 - 2.78 lbs. My guess is that this is to encourage people to buy the X40, and when it's sold out, Lenovo will then start selling the lightest X60s models, which should be as light as 2.69 lbs.
Microsoft Surface 3 (Atom x7-Z8700 / 4GB / 128GB / LTE)
Dell OptiPlex 9010 SFF (Core i3-3220 / 8GB / 8TB); HP 8300 Elite minitower (Core i7-3770 / 16GB / 9.25TB)
Acer T272HUL; Crossover 404K; Dell 3008WFP, U2715H, U2711, P2416D; Monoprice 10734; QNIX QHD2410R; Seiki Pro SM40UNP

yilin wang
Posts: 1
Joined: Sun Apr 02, 2006 12:13 pm

Re: It seems that x60/s is not a popular machine

#26 Post by yilin wang » Sun Apr 02, 2006 12:16 pm

mzd wrote:So few comments here.
I think X60 is will be the next king of x seriers in future.

amgdoc
Freshman Member
Posts: 106
Joined: Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:58 am

#27 Post by amgdoc » Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:34 pm

pianowizard wrote:At present, the lightest X-series notebook available on lenovo.com is an X40, which is 2.7 - 2.78 lbs. My guess is that this is to encourage people to buy the X40, and when it's sold out, Lenovo will then start selling the lightest X60s models, which should be as light as 2.69 lbs.

You could buy the lightest since Feb. The X60s is on there, just need to click on 'view all models' in the x-series section.
thinkpad x40, type:2372-9EU, (2x) 512MB, 40GB HD (4200rpm), 802.11abg, CDC bluetooth

thinkpad x60s, type:1702-94U, (2X) 512MB, 40GB HD (5400rpm), 802.11abg, Ultralight LCD.

pianowizard
Senior ThinkPadder
Senior ThinkPadder
Posts: 8366
Joined: Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:07 am
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Contact:

#28 Post by pianowizard » Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:25 pm

amgdoc wrote:You could buy the lightest since Feb. The X60s is on there, just need to click on 'view all models' in the x-series section.
The lightest X60s listed on lenovo.com is 3.0 lbs, quite a bit heavier than the 2.75-lb X40. The 2.69-lb X60s that Lenovo promised is not yet available in the States.
Microsoft Surface 3 (Atom x7-Z8700 / 4GB / 128GB / LTE)
Dell OptiPlex 9010 SFF (Core i3-3220 / 8GB / 8TB); HP 8300 Elite minitower (Core i7-3770 / 16GB / 9.25TB)
Acer T272HUL; Crossover 404K; Dell 3008WFP, U2715H, U2711, P2416D; Monoprice 10734; QNIX QHD2410R; Seiki Pro SM40UNP

domi
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
Posts: 255
Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2005 7:33 am
Location: Kirkkonummi, Finland

#29 Post by domi » Sun Apr 16, 2006 3:38 am

pianowizard wrote:My X40 has the same clicking "problem" and it may be the only thing that I don't like about this otherwise perfect machine.
Isn't the HDD clicking a "feature" found in Hitachi drives, that can be attenuated with AAM (automatic acoustic management)?
X301 (2776-3JG) | Core2 Duo U9400 1.4 GHz | 8GB | 128GB SSD | Win 7 Pro

domi
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
Posts: 255
Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2005 7:33 am
Location: Kirkkonummi, Finland

Re: No clicking...

#30 Post by domi » Sun Apr 16, 2006 3:40 am

ajwells wrote:No clicking at all from the X60... I have the 100GB disc and its completely silent and clickless...
What is the manufacturer of the 100GB drive found in the X60?
X301 (2776-3JG) | Core2 Duo U9400 1.4 GHz | 8GB | 128GB SSD | Win 7 Pro

Post Reply
  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Return to “Thinkpad X6x Series incl. X6x Tablet”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 9 guests