t43p P M 2.1 chip

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t43p P M 2.1 chip

#1 Post by activelink » Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:10 pm

is it the same chip generation in t43/p ? newer chip with slower memory & fsb ?

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#2 Post by dr_st » Thu Mar 23, 2006 1:49 am

Not sure I understand.

T42 series carried Dothan 400MHz CPUs at 1.6, 1.7, 1.8, 2.0 and 2.1 GHz, the last two being available only in T42p models. They used DDR-333 RAM.

T43 series carried Dothan 533MHz CPUs at 1.6, 1.73, 1.86, 2.0, 2.13 and 2.26 GHz. The used DDR2-533 RAM.

The CPU/RAM in the T42s and T43s are different and non interchangeable. Unless of course someone replaces the entire system board.

If someone says to you that he has a T43p at 2.1GHz, then he probably means 2.13GHz (or confused with a T42).

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#3 Post by activelink » Thu Mar 23, 2006 2:29 am

so both are versions of Dorthan Sonoma with different fsb.

thanks.

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#4 Post by dr_st » Thu Mar 23, 2006 2:41 pm

Only the 533MHz platform is called Sonoma.

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#5 Post by brentpresley » Thu Mar 23, 2006 3:43 pm

Sonoma = Chipset
Banias/Dothan = Processor
Centrino = Platform (Processor + Chipset + Wireless, all MUST be made by Intel to be called Centrino)
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#6 Post by brentpresley » Thu Mar 23, 2006 3:46 pm

dr_st wrote: The CPU/RAM in the T42s and T43s are different and non interchangeable. Unless of course someone replaces the entire system board.
Not entirely true. All 400MHz Pentium M CPUs will run just fine in a Sonoma chipset based board (i.e. T43). The reverse is NOT true. 533MHz chips will not run well in 400MHz boards (but they will run - have tried this: a 1.86GHz Pentium M throttles down to 1.4GHz in a 400MHz board).
Custom T60p
2.33GHz 4MB 667MHz Core 2 Duo
4GB PC2-5300 DDR SDRAM
Bluetooth / Atheros ABGN
200GB 7k200 7200RPM Hard Drive
8X DVD Multiburner
15" UXGA - ATI FireGL V5250 (256MB)

http://www.xcpus.com

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#7 Post by rssb » Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:29 pm

Do the Pentium M 400MHZ chips run at the same speed or they run faster, do they slow down memory, and others running at 533 ? Are the 400 and 533 chips pin compatible

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#8 Post by brentpresley » Thu Mar 23, 2006 5:21 pm

The 400FSB chips run at 400FSB in a 533FSB capable laptop.

You CAN run them at 533, but you have to do what is called a "pinmod" which basically involves using a TINY hair-sized wire to connect 2 pins in the socket to run the chips at 533. Becuase the Dothan chips have SO MUCH headroom, it is very common to get a 1.6 or 1.7 / 400FSB chip and run it at 2.13/2.26 with no problems. Of course, this voids all kinds of warranties, but any overclocking does. Do a google search for dothan pinmod for more info.

To the best of my knowledge, the sonoma chipset will run the memory async, so even though the FSB is 400MHz, the memory still runs at 533MHz.

The 400 and 533 chips have IDENTICAL pinouts.
Custom T60p
2.33GHz 4MB 667MHz Core 2 Duo
4GB PC2-5300 DDR SDRAM
Bluetooth / Atheros ABGN
200GB 7k200 7200RPM Hard Drive
8X DVD Multiburner
15" UXGA - ATI FireGL V5250 (256MB)

http://www.xcpus.com

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#9 Post by rssb » Thu Mar 23, 2006 8:11 pm

Thanks for your reply Brentpresley. Will have to try the pinout on a spare board sometime.

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