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GoEatFood · #1 Post by **GoEatFood** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:48 pm

I don't know if any one has already posted these but, they are pretty cool videos.

the one with the hologram is super sweet that would be wayyyy better than a light.

haha, I don't know how the coffee thing would actually work.

and the hover craft-system is just nuts.

http://www.lenovo-tapes.com/

#2 Post by **Kyocera** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:53 pm

Somebody already put it in the thinpad/general hardware. Very bizarre stuff there.

christopher_wolf · #3 Post by **christopher_wolf** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:26 pm

But aren't they cool?

Because they are Thinkpads....OF THE FUTURE!

#4 Post by **AlphaKilo470** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:30 pm

I can only begin to think of how useful and nice that "skywalker" feature would be to have at school and work.

benz · #5 Post by **benz** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:01 pm

Great work on the CG, but as with just about every video today that integrates real footage with CG items, the physics is glaringly wrong. Is there not a single graphic designer who has taken high-school physics? (and passed?)

Take a look at the third "tape" - the ThinkPad is falling at a constant rate, and there is relatively NO elasticity in the impact. I can assure you that something as solid as a Thinkpad hitting solid flooring like that will bounce a considerable distance up and/or away from the point of impact. Maybe I just have too demanding of an eye for physics, but I really think thats the one huge flaw with computer generated graphics and animations these days.

christopher_wolf · #6 Post by **christopher_wolf** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:33 pm

benz wrote:Great work on the CG, but as with just about every video today that integrates real footage with CG items, the physics is glaringly wrong. Is there not a single graphic designer who has taken high-school physics? (and passed?)

Take a look at the third "tape" - the ThinkPad is falling at a constant rate, and there is relatively NO elasticity in the impact. I can assure you that something as solid as a Thinkpad hitting solid flooring like that will bounce a considerable distance up and/or away from the point of impact. Maybe I just have too demanding of an eye for physics, but I really think thats the one huge flaw with computer generated graphics and animations these days.

It does bounce somewhat, not as much as I would expect though; I certianly *would not* try this out with a real Thinkpad as an experiment though. The fall was a bit strange too, considering how the Thinkpad seemed, at least to me, to slowly rotate.

I am pretty impressed with the CG and the fact that it was actually made to look authentic; such as placing it in a real office like setting, the date in the footage headers, etc. Somebody did a really great job of making the videos.

#7 Post by **Kyocera** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:19 pm

It looks like the way outside edge of the keyboard hits just before the top of the display, causes the hinge opening to absord a lot of the downward force. While the thinkpad is held in the arm it appears the screen is opened to a normal viewing configuration. After the first impact the hinges open the screen nearer to a full open configuration, this would appear to me to cause the abnormal looking bounce.

#8 Post by **daeojkim** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 9:36 pm

You can see the rest of the footage here

http://www.youtube.com/results?search=l ... rch=Search

christopher_wolf · #9 Post by **christopher_wolf** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 9:45 pm

Ah, YouTube....Excellent Daeojkim

Thanks.

#10 Post by **daeojkim** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 5:35 pm

BTW, I was trying to find the part number for the "intelligent spill protector" but I was not able to. I don't think I am going to need the holographic projector or the "anti gravity kit".

Does anyone know if it is available for T4x series? or when it will be released? I could not find anything about this in HMM. May be it is a kit that comes with custom LCD bezels and sensors?

I could really use one, I drink beverages way too often when I am using the computer.

If anyone know where I can get this please let me know.

Thanks.

GoEatFood · #11 Post by **GoEatFood** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:30 pm

FRU - 1D10T

#12 Post by **draco2527** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:35 pm

GoEatFood wrote:FRU - 1D10T

I was laughing at the post from daeojkim

, when I saw yours; then I was ROFLMAO!!

Looking for part number 1D-10T...a true classic!!!!!

#13 Post by **daeojkim** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:01 am

GoEatFood wrote:FRU - 1D10T

LOL good one.

ThinkPad R · #14 Post by **ThinkPad R** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:19 pm

so... is this real or cgi

i think it's real

christopher_wolf · #15 Post by **christopher_wolf** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:43 pm

ThinkPad R wrote:so... is this real or cgi

i think it's real

Uhhh, I think it is obvious that it is CG

Website · #16 Post by **tfflivemb2** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:08 pm

GoEatFood wrote:FRU - 1D10T

ROTFLMAO!!!!

ThinkPad R · #17 Post by **ThinkPad R** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 10:39 pm

ok... i think it's real.

seriously.

my explanations

1) in all three, there are people... you can't really draw people that real with cgi.

2) 2 of them have the robotic arms. cgi? i don't think so.

3) in the hologram thing, the man actually moves aroudn the hologram & puts his hand into it & creates those shadows. cgi? no.

4) in the dropping thing, the 1st try it fails.... uh... i think if it was cgi, they wouldn't do that

they have the robotic arm, which is pretty realistic.......

and yes. the thinkpad falls at accelerating rate.

also.... they zoom in with their camera... uh.. cgi no

christopher_wolf · #18 Post by **christopher_wolf** » Fri Apr 21, 2006 11:48 pm

ThinkPad R wrote:ok... i think it's real.

seriously.

my explanations

1) in all three, there are people... you can't really draw people that real with cgi.

2) 2 of them have the robotic arms. cgi? i don't think so.

3) in the hologram thing, the man actually moves aroudn the hologram & puts his hand into it & creates those shadows. cgi? no.

4) in the dropping thing, the 1st try it fails.... uh... i think if it was cgi, they wouldn't do that

they have the robotic arm, which is pretty realistic.......

and yes. the thinkpad falls at accelerating rate.

also.... they zoom in with their camera... uh.. cgi no

You can do all of that with CG, just add the people in and use a uniform color on certain objects (e.g. bluescreening, greenscreening, etc). How do you think Star Wars got made? They didn't make the people out of CGI.

I can also assure you that the hover model is most certainly not real.

ThinkPad · #19 Post by **ThinkPad** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 1:42 am

daeojkim wrote:You can see the rest of the footage here

http://www.youtube.com/results?search=l ... rch=Search

Those videos are absolutely amazing

ThinkPad R · #20 Post by **ThinkPad R** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 9:03 am

what about the sound effects?

look at the source of the tape.

it's something like lenovo-tape.com. and it says that it's from 9 videos.

---------------------edit----------------------

ok. i did some tests.

1) on the hologram one, the guy adjusts the screen angle to adjust the hologram.

in cgi, the hologram would go down to the angle and stay.

but as you know, the thinkpad hinge makes it so that after you release your hand from the LCD, it pushes back a little.

That's what happened with the hologram. Moved down to the angel, and then moved up very slightly.

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2) in the coffee spill preventing video, the shutter's withdraw makes significant impact on the screen that if you look at it closely, it moves downward.

CGI? I don't think so. One suspicious part though.

Is that stripe on the shutter error due to the camera or what?

Because the screen shutter, when it withdraws, seems as if it was cut -like CGI.

christopher_wolf · #21 Post by **christopher_wolf** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 1:38 pm

It is still CGI; the shutter mechanism has to have a place to go to; please note also that the shielding activated *before* the coffee hit. Now how do you think that can be automated? I can name of a few technologies that would do it, but they would be very obvious. If it is real, where do the shutters retract into? They appear to be strips of material, I could understand if it was a "window blind" roller at the top part of the Thinkpad's screen, but that isn't what is shown nor does anything appear different there.

Simply saying that the screen hinges bounce the screen back a little in the Hologram demo doesn't mean that it isn't CGI; if the authors of the videos knew their Thinkpads well, they could have simulated that as well. Which they did.

The hover demo is also far out there. Keep in mind that the little jets have to retract into the Thinkpad and that they do need a significant amount of power to say the least; I imagine the inside would be very cramped then.

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