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I've always been a fan of Tumi

#31 Post by a31pguy » Fri Apr 14, 2006 1:20 pm

I too must admit to being a bag-aholic. I have several bags. There are three ones that I really like: The Tumi T-Tech Pulse Messenger bag and the Tumi Gen 4.4 Expandable Computer Brief.

The T-Tech Pulse Eldrige Messegner Bag is good for tooling around town.

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The Gen 4.4 is good when you have to do airports or train stations as it will slip over a luggage handle so you don't have to carry it.

http://www.tumi.com/products/index.cfm?modelid=57347


The one I cannot do without, however, is the Tumi Gen 4.4 Wheel-A-Way Deluxe Expandable Brief with computer case (which means for the price of the lower bag - you get a bag like the above bag with it). This will carry two or more laptops and accessories from place to place. If you are on the road and have to carry your office in your bag like I do - this is the one that works.

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#32 Post by Greg Gebhardt » Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:11 pm

I have tried so many but none has made me more happy than the Waterfield Sleeve.
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#33 Post by donking! » Sat Apr 15, 2006 3:23 am

Why do people love the Waterfield sleeve so much? It's expensive, I personally don't like the looks, and it doesn't seem like it does anything different than a lot of high quality sleeves out there.

That aside, I checked out the Timbuk2 Ace Day Pack today and the Crumpler backpacks.

I don't really like the Timbuk2 for a backpack. It's clearly very solidly made. But the construction of the "ear" style compression straps, though intriguing and different, makes for a lot of bunched up extra fabric. And the opening (it only unzips at the top) makes the large internal pocket not very easily accessible.

The Crumpler backpacks were also a bit of a let down to me. Very cool and different in design. I really wanted to love these. But for a pretty large bag they didn't have that much internal space (an effect of it's not standard shape). The back opening design also made it seem like everything would fall out of the bag when I opened it. The smaller front pockets were very inacessible, with just narrow openings at the top. And the back of the pack itself was like a giant stiff washboard. Not comfortable to wear. What's up with everyone having these stiff backs on backpacks these days? Also, the backpack for a 15" laptop was pretty large. I can't imagine what the 17" laptop bag is like.

I think I'm going to order the Tom Bihn Brain Bag and try it out. There's a 60 day return policy. It's design seems more functional if not quite as hip cool and different.

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#34 Post by Greg Gebhardt » Sat Apr 15, 2006 7:16 am

donking! wrote:Why do people love the Waterfield sleeve so much? It's expensive, I personally don't like the looks, and it doesn't seem like it does anything different than a lot of high quality sleeves out there.

That aside, I checked out the Timbuk2 Ace Day Pack today and the Crumpler backpacks.

I don't really like the Timbuk2 for a backpack. It's clearly very solidly made. But the construction of the "ear" style compression straps, though intriguing and different, makes for a lot of bunched up extra fabric. And the opening (it only unzips at the top) makes the large internal pocket not very easily accessible.

The Crumpler backpacks were also a bit of a let down to me. Very cool and different in design. I really wanted to love these. But for a pretty large bag they didn't have that much internal space (an effect of it's not standard shape). The back opening design also made it seem like everything would fall out of the bag when I opened it. The smaller front pockets were very inacessible, with just narrow openings at the top. And the back of the pack itself was like a giant stiff washboard. Not comfortable to wear. What's up with everyone having these stiff backs on backpacks these days? Also, the backpack for a 15" laptop was pretty large. I can't imagine what the 17" laptop bag is like.

I think I'm going to order the Tom Bihn Brain Bag and try it out. There's a 60 day return policy. It's design seems more functional if not quite as hip cool and different.
I guess, Donking, that we live two different lifestyles. I really can not see me going into the board room meeting wearing a Crumpler Backpack! :!:

Me and my laptop go to some really fancy places, none of which include a school campus or campground. As far as cost of the WaterField, I found it to be quite reasonable. :shock:
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#35 Post by ayja » Sat Apr 15, 2006 10:22 am

So is the basic consensis that the waterfield sleeve is the best? What are other options to the waterfield sleeve if you agree that the waterfield sleeve is too much money? Obviously I am looking for sleeves...Finally, vertical or horizontal sleeves? (t60p with 9v battery) And lastly, there has been very little discussion about mouses after I first posted this topic....Would love to hear your thoughts

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#36 Post by kskim91 » Sat Apr 15, 2006 12:21 pm

I like the look of the waterfield bags and options, however it's just a little too expensive for me. I've gone with a spireusa.com Boot sleeve $30. I've used one for the past 6 years and just had to get a new one due to the 9 cell battery. If you email their sales people they will send you a 15% off coupon. The only complaint that I have is that the shipping is a little high, but if you live near you can actually go and pick it up. The quaility is very good. The one I had for 6 years still looks good and does not look worn at all, given the fact I've been totting it around nearly every day.
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Re: I've always been a fan of Tumi

#37 Post by jagged » Sat Apr 15, 2006 12:52 pm

a31pguy wrote:I too must admit to being a bag-aholic. I have several bags. There are three ones that I really like: The Tumi T-Tech Pulse Messenger bag and the Tumi Gen 4.4 Expandable Computer Brief.

The T-Tech Pulse Eldrige Messegner Bag is good for tooling around town.

LINK


The Gen 4.4 is good when you have to do airports or train stations as it will slip over a luggage handle so you don't have to carry it.

http://www.tumi.com/products/index.cfm?modelid=57347


The one I cannot do without, however, is the Tumi Gen 4.4 Wheel-A-Way Deluxe Expandable Brief with computer case (which means for the price of the lower bag - you get a bag like the above bag with it). This will carry two or more laptops and accessories from place to place. If you are on the road and have to carry your office in your bag like I do - this is the one that works.

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MOD EDIT: Those long links tend to spread the page out so you have to scroll left and right to read the entire page :)
I personally use a Tumi Gen4.4 expander brief and I'm a very satisfied customer. I've used computer bags from Samsonite, Hedgren, MHWay, Axio, etc and the Tumi is the best so far in terms of quality, function, and looks.

Its just that the Tumi is somewhat heavy and expensive. But I guess its not too bad since quality is top notch and for me, its reasonable to spend to protect my $2000 investment and all the important data in it.

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#38 Post by archer6 » Sat Apr 15, 2006 4:50 pm

donking! wrote:On the Crumpler and Tom Bihn, those are shoulder style bags you have, I take it?
donkin!-
The Tom Bihn I have is a shoulder bag.
However I have both the Crumpler shoulder style as well as a Crumpler backpack. I love backpacks for casual. Here are two of my favorites in order:
1) Crumpler "The King Single" model.
Terrific build quality, nice zipper pulls, great style.
2) Oakley "ICON Backpack 2.0" model.
Like the Crumpler a great bag! Be sure to checkout these two web sites:
www.bagyou.com & www.Oakley.com
Actually I have several others as well, I just didn't want to come across on this forum as though I was bragging about how many bags/backpacks I have.
Feel free to ask any questions as I may be able to help avoid a disappointing purchase. I have certainly learned the hard way with some bags.
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#39 Post by donking! » Sat Apr 15, 2006 7:27 pm

Greg Gebhardt wrote:I guess, Donking, that we live two different lifestyles. I really can not see me going into the board room meeting wearing a Crumpler Backpack! :!:

Me and my laptop go to some really fancy places, none of which include a school campus or campground. As far as cost of the WaterField, I found it to be quite reasonable. :shock:
I was trying to make two separate points. 1) I'm looking for a backpack and here are my thoughts about the Crumpler and Timbuk2 ones, for anyone else who's looking for a backpack. 2) A lot of people here swear by the Waterfield sleeve and I was curious why.

I think in the contemporary world there are quite a few places that people use backpacks other than school campuses and campgrounds (and on the other hand there are also a lot of students on this forum, so I don't know why commenting on backpacks is irrelevant). Frankly, in my circles, if I went into a boardroom without a backpack or something equally casual, I wouldn't be taken seriously. So even with boardrooms, I don't think you can generalize so much.

That said, if one does want a classly (not casual) look for their laptop sleeve, there are quite a few options other than the Waterfield.

http://www.booqbags.com/Search.bok?category=Sleeves
www.levenger.com
http://shinza.com/index.php?cPath=5&osC ... 05bf71f24a
http://www.radtech.us/Products/SpecialtyBags.aspx

The booqbags, I think, are classier and more professional looking than the Waterfield. Levenger makes a leather laptop sleeve, which is also, to me, much classier and more professional than the Waterfield.

In the end, there's just something about the checkered bottom of the Waterfield sleeve than I don't like (and that to me does not seem particularly professional either--if one has a very conservative non-campus, non-campground idea of professional).

So again, I'm just curious why so many people here swear by the Waterfield bag.

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archer6 thanks for the further thoughts on the Crumpler backpack. It definitely is very well contructed. To me it just seemed like it would be a bit awkward to actually use. What has your use experience been?

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#40 Post by archer6 » Sat Apr 15, 2006 11:08 pm

donking! wrote: archer6 thanks for the further thoughts on the Crumpler backpack. It definitely is very well contructed. To me it just seemed like it would be a bit awkward to actually use. What has your use experience been?
It took me 2 days to become accustomed to the Crumpler backpack, largely just because it's different than a conventional type. I can tell you that it's really a great bag! It has a very different design that is extremely well thought out in regards to ease of use, protecting the laptop and functionality. The particular way the pockets and compartments are arranged is brilliant. It can hold a high volume of items. This is because there is no wasted space. Every compartment, pocket, etc. is usable. Conversely with just the ThinkPad & very little else, it shines. From a protection standpoint, if one was to drop this bag with laptop inside I bet it would survive easily. Then there is the issue of comfort. This is the primary reason I have so many bags, as I'm always looking for the right combination of comfort, laptop protection, proper pockets, space and compartments for my related items (obsessive organizer that I am). I find that no matter how full or not, this backpack _is the most comfortable_ backpack that I have ever used. It gets a lot of attention when for example I'm at Starbucks. People ask about it, and how to get one, then later I see them. In my area they have gone from obscure to very, very, popular. Finally if I'm not taking my laptop, I still find this my bag of choice as it is so versatile and comfortable.

Just today I recieved my new booq backpack the first one that I have purchased from them. I bought it because it's business black and sometimes that is the only appropriate color when I'm with certain clients, even in casual attire. I was not happy with the looks (personal opinion) of the earlier models. Then they came out with this new model :
2006 Boa.XL black. Hard to tell on the web site what it's like. In person it's quite nice. Less controversial than the Crumpler, a bit plain, but well made. I will reserve my opinion after I have had a chance to use if for awhile.

I am really interested in what you decide to buy. Keep me posted.
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#41 Post by donking! » Sun Apr 16, 2006 12:45 am

archer6, thanks for the details. i'm going to check out the crumplers more, i think.

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#42 Post by ayja » Mon Apr 17, 2006 3:01 pm

Back to sleeves, what is the preference with the 9 volt battery, horiz or vert sleeve? Also what is the 2nd/cheaper option to the waterfield sleeve? spire? neoprene type of sleeve? Should I be concerned that the zipper on those neoprene ones will scuff the laptop? thanks

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#43 Post by archer6 » Mon Apr 17, 2006 4:16 pm

donking! wrote:archer6, thanks for the details. i'm going to check out the crumplers more, i think.
donking!

I forgot to mention that the Crumpler comes with a really nice laptop sleeve that is removable. This way it can be used just like a regular backpack. In addition, the sleeve is handy if you want to put your computer in a bag that's not designed for a laptop.

Something else I just thought of and that's the 30 day return policy at BagYou.com. A friend of mine has a 17" powerbook and ordered a backpack that would carry it but it was really snug, so he sent it back for a refund. He received the check in just 4 days!

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#44 Post by donking! » Thu Apr 20, 2006 3:03 am

archer6,

Thanks for the further thoughts. I did notice the laptop sleeve when I first checked out the Crumpler backpacks. That's a nice touch. I haven't had a chance to look at them again yet though.

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#45 Post by collector_edi » Thu Apr 20, 2006 9:14 pm

I looked at many alternatives and decided on the Leather Attache case. It is of excellent quality inside and out. I carry a Samosonite notebook case for accessories, books, folders etc. I wanted an executive style look without having excessive weight sacrificing the lightweight features of the notebook.
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#46 Post by aamsel » Thu Apr 20, 2006 9:43 pm

I am not trying to discourage you in any way from getting the Tom Bihn, but if you have not seen a Waterfield, you will not be aware of the quality. The materials are quite basic, but they are put together with an extremely tasteful, professional design. I have seen 100's of "cheap" sleeves, including a bunch intended for Mac users, and the Waterfield is far nicer than any of them. In fact, I have not seen a sleeve that compares. That in mind, I have never seen a Tom Bihn, but it appears to be somewhat bulkier in that it has more padding.

Also, they are made in San Francisco, and the customer service is fantastic.

Of course, if you don't like the looks, then the issue is closed.

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donking! wrote:Why do people love the Waterfield sleeve so much? It's expensive, I personally don't like the looks, and it doesn't seem like it does anything different than a lot of high quality sleeves out there...

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#47 Post by donking! » Fri Apr 21, 2006 12:25 am

Okay, I buy that the Waterfield is exceptionally well constructed.

Tom Bihn makes an unusal set of sleeves (The Brain Cell and the Monolith) that has a special protective padding system, which suspends the laptop inside the sleeve. This does make them bulkier. But they provide a great deal of protection from falls. So I think it's a bit of an apples and oranges comparison with the Waterfield. The Waterfield does not attempt to do anything like that. It also seems like the Tom Bihn sleeves have very high quality construction.

(With Tom Bihn, it's actually their Brain Bag backpack that I'm interested in, though, not the sleeves.)

Also, Booqbag makes a sleeve (the Vyper) that to me seems very well made, more protective than the Waterfield sleeve, and very good looking. But also kind of bulky.

Perhaps I can get them to make me a Waterfield sleeve with out the checkered bottom that I don't like. It is more of the sort of un-bulky sleeve that I would like to have. Crumpler has some neoprene sleeves I'm considering too.

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#48 Post by b3b0p » Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:21 am

I hate to admit, but I have had quite a journey to find my perfect bag.

I have gone through quite a few, however, I think I have found 1 to 3 bags that I am finally satisfied with.

I started with a Targus backpack and Thinkpad 600E. The bag worked, but was bulky and uncomfortable.

Then, there was a super loaded large Timbuk2 messenger bag with sleeve. So far from perfect for me. I realized I wanted/needed a backpack.

Third, Targus Sport (Not deluxe) Backpack. Works great, comfortable and not too bulky. Overall, it works well and I can recommend. However, my perfect bag had to be able to fit easily the nalgene water bottles. This thing could barely fit a Diet Coke bottle on the side bottle pockets. My hunt continued.

I finally decided to stop by a local shop that sells outdoors stuff and loads of bags with brands I have never heard of or thought about looking at.

My first purchase on one of the clerks recommendations was an Osprey Focus. Bottom line, the bag is 9.9/10 rating from me. Works perfect, holds everything, not too big/bulky. However, I never got it to feel right on me. Hence the 9.9 and not 10. I think it has to do with my height as the bag is more tall then most I think, I'm only about 5'4", my dad thought it was the most comfortable and best bag ever (he's about 5'8"). He is currently using it. It was my fathers day gift to him.

Finally, this brought me back to my local shop to try out another bag or two: Northface Borealis and Northface Recon

The Borealis does not mention it, but it does have a computer slot. I use it currently to lug around my Dell Inspiron 700m. The Borealis does not have as much padding as the Recon on the sleeve part.

I took the Recon home for a day and toyed with it and ended up going back and trading for the Borealis. I just ended up liking the look and design better.

The back saver technology they mention makes the bag fit me like a glove, like no other bag I have ever used. Very comfortable and the shoulder straps are very comfortable, better than any other bag I've used.

The bags have a load of support/waist straps, but(!) there is a slot on the back of the bag to tuck them away out of sight and mind and not dangling. It also has two water bottle pockets, both fit the nalgene bottles.

I just ordered a T60p 200794U, err, actually my dad got it for me as a graduation present (no better gift for a computer science graduate then... a computer, in the words of my mom). This will be my 2nd Thinkpad. Just waiting for shipping now.

I just hope it fits one of those 2 Northface bags. I can't imagine having to find something else that satisfies my requirements and fits as well as these 2 bags.

I don't post much, but since no one seemed to mention these 2 brands of bags, I wanted to give them a good word as they are the best I have tried/used from literally trying out dozens in stores and spending a few hundred bucks trying out a couple bags (Timbuk2 was over $200, Targus Sport ~$50, Osprey $100, Northface $69/$79 respectively).


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#49 Post by donking! » Sat Apr 22, 2006 3:49 pm

Chris,

Thanks for the detailed post about backpacks. I havne't finished my journey for the right backback yet. So I really I appreciate your description of the bags you've tried.

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#50 Post by archer6 » Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:27 am

donking! wrote:I havne't finished my journey for the right backback yet.
Hmmmm... I had'nt thought of it that way. Brilliant! Yes that's it! Honey, (to wife) I'm on this journey you see... and, well, uh, oh forget it.

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#51 Post by Kel Ghu » Wed Apr 26, 2006 1:50 am

I recommand the Booq Powersleeve XM for those who have a 14" with 6-cell battery. It fits extremely well. The 9-cells gets in too, but it pushes the sides of the sleeve and it is harder to make the computer get in. I wouldnt recommande doing that :P
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#52 Post by donking! » Wed Apr 26, 2006 10:10 pm

The Booq PowerSleeve looks kind of bulky to me in the photos. Is that just something deceptive about the photos? I really like the design on the Booq sleeves. But both the PowerSleeve and the Vyper seem bulky.

I want something to protect my notebook while it's in my backpack. I like the low profile of sleeves like the ZeroShock and RadTech (that won't take up a lot of extra space). But I don't like the neoprene material.

Thanks for any more thoughts/descriptions of the PowerSleeve.

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#53 Post by archer6 » Sat Apr 29, 2006 7:33 pm

donking! wrote:I want something to protect my notebook while it's in my backpack.
donking -

How are you doing on your quest for a bag that works for you?

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#54 Post by jaybert » Sat Apr 29, 2006 7:39 pm

Kel Ghu wrote:
baraider wrote:This brings back lot of emotional memory we T4x users used to have when we discussed which is best for our new T4x babies..
Till this day, I haven't forgot the feeling when i first saw the IBM Japan sleeve

The discussion is here http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.ph ... highlight=

And the hot babe in question is here



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#55 Post by Kel Ghu » Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:29 am

I want one! No, two! haha!

Donkin: yeah, the powersleeve is too bulky to have it in a bag or backpack. I use it as a normal everyday travelling bag. The Vyper XM is a bit bulky too, but you get good protection with it.

Anyway... Jaybert will be saving us all!
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#56 Post by donking! » Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:30 am

jaybert, I definitely might be interested in getting one of those sleeves. Keep me posted, please.

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archer6, thanks for asking about my quest. I was thinking of going with a Tucano neoprene sleeve that I saw online, but might have to order from the UK. Nothing special about it really, I just liked the color and design. Otherwise, it's a standard neoprene type sleeve.

I want a sleeve that doesn't add much bulk to my laptop (and consquently backpack). That has unfortunately ruled out the very nice Booqbag sleeves for me. I don't love neoprene as a material, but it seem like the only thing low bulk sleeves are made out of. There are the sleeves like Zeroshock, that are made from high density polyurethane. I like that material in principle. But Zeroschock wants you to use a 15" sleeve for 14" notebooks. That's silly (and lazy), I think. I don't want extra material flapping around. I tried out Radtech's high density polyurethane sleeve for th 14" ibook and it wasn't a great fit. Very tight and hard to zip up, since this material is not very stretchy. It seemed like a pain to put the T60 in and like scratching would be likely since there wasn't much room for error.

So that leaves neoprene. Except for the the Waterfield, which is nice because it doesn't have zippers. But I don't like the checkerboard design on the bottom of the Waterfield. I've thought about contacting them to see if they'd make one without that, but haven't tried yet. Maybe I'll get one of these Japanese ThinkPad sleeves, if they really come available. I'm not as much in love with them as other people seem to be. But it seems like a good, low bulk design, without a zipper, and more attractive than the Waterfield, to me.

Clearly I'm way overthinking this decision. I guess I'm not in a rush.

I have pretty much decided I'm going to get the Tom Bihn Brain Bag, or at least try it out, as a backpack, once I have some more money to pay for it. I think it suits me best. It seems very practical, but with some understated style. I really wanted to like the Crumpler. They are very cool looking and unusual. I looked at a bunch of them in a store. And I checked them out again at your suggestion. They are also definitely very very well made. High quality construction. But I just couldn't get into the backwards opening design. I felt like I wasn't going to like dealing with it. It also bothers me that they don't have compression straps (although I realize this wouldn't go with their look well). And the side pockets on the outside are almost impossible to reach into. Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't get why they designed these pockets this way. They're very deep, which is nice, but they have very narrow stiff openings at the top. Fine for a water bottle, but almost nothing else I would think.

That's the state of my quixotic quest.

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#57 Post by donking! » Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:08 am

Okay, I have not found the laptop sleeve of my dreams yet, but in my endless searching I have stumbled upon some interesting designs of sleeves and other bags that I think some people might like. Here's some links.

Actually, I want to check out for myself the Brooklyn Industries laptop sleeve. I like the simple design. And it has some interesting casual fabric and colors that are definitely different from anything else I've seen on laptop sleeves. I like the simple khaki one. Although the red khaki is kind of cool too.

[Edit: I checked out the Brooklyn Industries sleeve. They were nice a simple. The manufacturing seemed good, but not super high quality. Unfortunatley, the sizes aren't right for a ThinkPad.]

http://www.sjdesign.com/
http://www.brooklynindustries.com/Lapto ... s-C37.aspx
http://www.easternshape.com/forca_outline.php
http://www.hartmann.com/shop/productDetail.asp?sku=9330
http://www.luggageonline.com/product.cf ... ct_ID=5352
http://www.luggageonline.com/product.cf ... ct_ID=2397
http://www.myrebe.com/shopexd.asp?id=267
http://www.roadwired.com/store/Product. ... oductid=90

[Edit: A couple more sleeves I stumbled on:

http://www.bitolithic.com/bags/index.htm
http://foofshop.com/#bag

The foofshop corduroy and herring bone sleeves are kind of interesting. Though I think I probably want something that has some water resistance.]

[Edit: Still more sleeves and bags:

http://www.burninglove.de/shop/index.php?cPath=42_51
http://www.maxupgrades.com/istore/index ... uct_ID=102

The burninglove felt sleeve looks pretty nice. Burninglove also has some more whacky corduroy and animal skin patter sleeves.]

[Edit: I didn't notice this before from RadTech. A very minimilast sleeve, just for protection from scratches, made from the same material that's used for their screen protectors.

http://www.radtech.us/Products/SleevzNotebooks.aspx ]
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#58 Post by darkj2k » Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:43 am


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#59 Post by donking! » Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:44 pm

Thanks for the idea. That's more of a briefcase. I'm really looking for a sleeve. But thanks.

P.S. People should check out the bags at sjedisgn.com, that I linked to above. Some unusual designs. Not for me. But pretty cool and different.

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#60 Post by donking! » Mon May 01, 2006 8:05 pm

In case people are interested, I've been adding links for other sources of sleeves and laptop bags that I found (some intriguing designs). I'm adding the links a couple posts up, just to keep them all in the same place.

I've noticed, interestingly, that the vast majority of high quality interesting designs on sleeves and bags tend to be for the Apple iBook and PowerBooks. I guess this makes sense, since the Apple notebooks are so high concept in their design, they'd attract people more interested in the design of their sleeves and bags. Perhaps it also reflects the desire to keep those shiny aluminum finishes from getting scratched.

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