DVD burning issues.

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ThinkPad · #1 Post by **ThinkPad** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:14 pm

I have multi-recorder cd-rw dvd drive on my T-42p, which im pretty sure burn dvds. For some reason its not picking up the DVD+R cd.
Im using IBM Record Now and Interview WinDVD creator and none are working.
Whats the issue?

mysbca · #2 Post by **mysbca** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 4:53 pm

Which dvd multi-burner do you have? If you have the earlier one, it does not burn to DVD+R. You can check which media it supports with some utility like Nero InfoTool:

http://www.cdspeed2000.com/

dr_st · #3 Post by **dr_st** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 4:37 pm

If it's an original T42p DVD Burner, then it does not write DVD+R. It should read them, though, especially with bitsetting set to DVD-ROM.

ThinkPad · #4 Post by **ThinkPad** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:28 pm

This is the drive I have http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b386/ ... C01909.jpg

So it only reads burned DVD's and doesnt record?

#5 Post by **GomJabbar** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 4:27 pm

ThinkPad wrote:This is the drive I have........

In general I believe a FRU number (part number) would be more useful than a picture for determining specifications and features. This could be the part number of your drive, or the type/model number of your ThinkPad (i.e. 1234-5XX).

Website · #6 Post by **tfflivemb2** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 4:39 pm

Yeah, the FRU would be far more useful than the pic.

Even more so, try using the Nero Infotool that was referenced earlier. It will show you exactly what type of discs your system can read/record. Although, I will also state that it is not always 100% correct. The CDRW/DVD drive that I have in my T21 doesn't show that it will read DVD+R disks, but I can assure you that it does.

ThinkPad · #7 Post by **ThinkPad** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 4:51 pm

FRU P/N: 92P6110

Model number: UJ-8112B

Website · #8 Post by **tfflivemb2** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:00 pm

Upon searching IBM/Lenovo's website, I found this chart. If you scroll down to the FRU that you listed, you will see a link to the left that describes the ThinkPad Multi-Burner Ultrabay Slim Drive. If you click on that link, it will take you to this page, which shows you what the drive can read.

ThinkPad · #9 Post by **ThinkPad** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:37 pm

Thanks.

According to that chart http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-55186

It states
# Writes directly to DVD-RAM discs as a drive letter
# Records DVD video to DVD-R for playback in most consumer DVD players

So it should burn a DVD disc.....

Website · #10 Post by **tfflivemb2** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:45 pm

Yes, it should burn a DVD-R disc, but not a DVD+R disc.

ThinkPad · #11 Post by **ThinkPad** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:01 pm

Aha. Im puting in a DVD+R disc in instead of a DVD-R. http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b386/ ... cc71e5.jpg

I pulled up this information of the various formats http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/D/DVD_RAM.html but cannot find the difference between the + and - in DVD-R/DVD+R

Website · #12 Post by **tfflivemb2** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:13 pm

If you want to actually read through all of section 4.3 (I only skimmed) there is information on the different formats.

davidspalding · #13 Post by **davidspalding** » Sat May 06, 2006 2:50 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD%C2%B1R
http://www.dvdsoftwareguide.com/all-abo ... guide.html
http://www.dvdforum.org/
http://www.dvdrw.com/

Basically, the newer Multiburner Plus drive is the one that adds DVD+R capability to the TP. As you can see from the pages above, the market has NOT settled down to a favored format, partly because so many multi-format ("Plus and Dash") drives are out there. And of course, millions of confused consumers who couldn't care less about the two competing coalitions. (Except that DVD+R/RW can go faster.)

ThinkPad · #14 Post by **ThinkPad** » Wed May 10, 2006 3:51 pm

As stated here http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-55186

What speed does it burn to DVD-R with this drive? The reason I ask is because I got some DVD-R 16X dvds and it doesnt burn properly.

ThinkPad · #15 Post by **ThinkPad** » Thu May 11, 2006 1:49 am

I picked up a set of 2x dvd-R because the chart says it burns at 2x and it burns fine.

Does this mean my DVD burner only burns 2x dvds?

Also it was quite hard to find 2X DVD-Rs they were all 8X-16X

#16 Post by **GomJabbar** » Thu May 11, 2006 6:45 am

ThinkPad wrote:As stated here http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-55186

A link on the page above brings up this page:
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-50676

IBM Support wrote:Quality and reliability
The quality of the recordable disc media makes a big difference. One type of recordable CD disc may produce a problem while another may not. Different brands may work in one drive and not in a different one. Usually, purchasing a brand name is recommended. But media quality varies, vendors are constantly switching sources, a vendor may manufacture in different locations, and basic materials may vary. Experiment with different brands of recordable discs until you find one that works reliably for you before you buy a lot.
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Speed
Be sure that your media and your recorder are compatible. For example, if you buy 6x CD-RS, but your CD burner records at up to 8x, you can not record at more than 6x. The speed rating of a disc, the top speed at which you can reliably write data, is straightforward. Use discs that match or exceed the top speed of your drive, such as 24x media for a 24x drive or 48x media for a 32x drive. You can always use higher rated media for a slower-rated drive, but trying to use slower-rated media in a higher rated drive could lead to problems. One exception to this rule is that older CD-RW discs that are rated at 1x or 2x cannot be written in drives which carry the "High Speed" or "Ultra Speed" CD-RW logo. These drives must have discs rated at 4x speed or higher, or carry the "Multi-speed" logo.

I can verify that the brand of media and the source the manufacturer uses makes a big difference. The following is my experience with some CD/R's that I bought. I like Verbatim brand disks. However I found that some Verbatim disks made in India would not work in the Plextor drive on my desktop PC. The Verbatim's made in Taiwan worked great. I have a program that can tell what type of dye is used on the CD. It turns out that these two Verbatim disks used different dye types.

#17 Post by **draco2527** » Thu May 11, 2006 11:17 am

ThinkPad wrote:I picked up a set of 2x dvd-R because the chart says it burns at 2x and it burns fine.

Does this mean my DVD burner only burns 2x dvds?

Also it was quite hard to find 2X DVD-Rs they were all 8X-16X

You can use ANY speed DVD-R on your drive, the 2X only means that your drive will only burn that fast. The 8X-16X DVD-R's are certified to "burn error" free up to that speed; you can push them harder but at your own risk.

FWIW:

Most DVD players have issued with the +R format on DVD's, I think IBM/Lenovo made a smart move by only having DVD-R capability on the DVD burners. I currently have the internal DVD-R burner as well as a DUAL layer DVD bruner from sony (I can also burn direct from any video source) , the only reason I purchased the Sony was for the dual-layer capability (as well as being able to burn home movies directly into the burner) but I could care less for the +R format.

davidspalding · #18 Post by **davidspalding** » Thu May 11, 2006 10:49 pm

The +R has 1 or 2 advantages, which are well documented on their site and third party sites - i won't waste time regugitating them.

But if you have a drive that is rated for 4x, and the media you bought is 2x, then just slow your drive down to that. Easy to do, just open the properties, or set the record speed in whatever software you're using. Not rocket science, just seems that way the first few times you do it.

#19 Post by **draco2527** » Fri May 12, 2006 12:08 am

The only advantage I care for:

"DVD-R is a non-rewriteable format and it is compatible with about 93% of all DVD Players and most DVD-ROMs. "

One of the benefits of DVD +R:

"Typically the DVD+R disc can be read at faster speeds that the DVD-R counterparts. While this is not particularly important for viewing a program it will matter if you plan to use it for data storage. The reason for this is the DVD+R uses the Constant Angular Velocity (CAV) method of storage. It is considerable fast at random access than the CLS method. "

#20 Post by **GomJabbar** » Fri May 12, 2006 6:13 am

draco2527 wrote:The only advantage I care for:

"DVD-R is a non-rewriteable format and it is compatible with about 93% of all DVD Players and most DVD-ROMs. "

I just did a search on the above quote, and found the following on the same page: "DVD+R is a non-rewritable format and it is compatible with about 89% of all DVD Players and most DVD-ROMs."

To me, 93% vs 89% is virtually a non-issue.

http://www.videohelp.com/dvd

This following site states the following: "There is insignificant compatibility difference between the "dash" and "plus" formats (see 4.3.6). There are much bigger compatibility differences between brands, so be careful about buying cheap discs."

http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html#4.3.1

davidspalding · #21 Post by **davidspalding** » Fri May 12, 2006 11:10 pm

I recall reading somewhere that you had to close your session, thereby preventing "appending" data to a DVD-R, to maintain readability across the widest array of devices. DVD+R, you don't need to, I heard. That's if memory serves.

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