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#31 Post by nirvana0001 » Fri May 12, 2006 7:07 pm

gent911 wrote: Could you make a brief summary, pls. Thnx.
the coolaboratory will corrode any substance that has silver.
hopefully the thinkpad heatsink was made by pure copper
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#32 Post by christopher_wolf » Fri May 12, 2006 7:10 pm

gent911 wrote: Could you make a brief summary, pls. Thnx.
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If it was me, I would probably end up using AS or whatever I could find. Although, there might indeed be a small amount of silver in the heatsink in the form of an alloy with the copper, but I really doubt that as a simple copper block is both easier and far less expensive. :)
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#33 Post by gunston » Mon May 15, 2006 4:42 am

i have did that..
temperature only drop about 3-4degC.
discovered one thing, my thinkpad put it on top of mirror table...
looks like it remain cooler~~
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#34 Post by nirvana0001 » Mon May 15, 2006 5:10 pm

gunston wrote: discovered one thing, my thinkpad put it on top of mirror table...
looks like it remain cooler~~
because of the radia reflection?
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#35 Post by gunston » Mon May 15, 2006 5:38 pm

radia reflection?
illogical... never heard of it.
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#36 Post by cmarti » Mon May 15, 2006 5:48 pm

nirvana0001 wrote:
FTC wrote:Hi,


How do you make sure now that the heatsink makes good contact with the GPU now ?
just "look" at the edge 8)
Yes it looks fine. But HOW did you make the heat sink make contact with the GPU did you have to bend anything? When i replace the fan in my machine i notice it is not too close one to another.
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#37 Post by gunston » Mon May 15, 2006 5:49 pm

cmarti,

nothing is wrong with it...
it is in contact with the GPU although the thermal rubber is removed.
i did that too.
working well now... nothing abnormality is happened.
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#38 Post by cmarti » Mon May 15, 2006 7:25 pm

gunston wrote:cmarti,

nothing is wrong with it...
it is in contact with the GPU although the thermal rubber is removed.
i did that too.
working well now... nothing abnormality is happened.
And now your gpu is cooler?

I am going to try that!
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#39 Post by gunston » Tue May 16, 2006 4:59 am

cmarti,
1-2degC lower than CPU, and sometime it would be the same as CPU and no evidence of its temp higher than CPU :wink:
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#40 Post by nirvana0001 » Tue May 16, 2006 5:45 am

i think the reason that they placed the thermal pad between the compound and GPU is to prevent the damage when you try to remove the heat sink, because it's kind of hard to remove it if the compound make direct contact with the GPU.
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#41 Post by gunston » Tue May 16, 2006 6:11 am

maybe that rubber thermal pad is perventing a better heat transfer.
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#42 Post by cmarti » Tue May 16, 2006 6:12 am

I ran out of the compund but i will order some more to do it.
When im done i will come back and post the results.
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#43 Post by gunston » Tue May 16, 2006 6:16 am

cmarti,
what do you mean "ran out of compound"
did you apply excessive of AS5 thermal compound on it?
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#44 Post by cmarti » Tue May 16, 2006 10:40 am

No i use it on my girlfriend HP my IBM and also in my desktop.

That is why i ran out of it.
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#45 Post by gunston » Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:54 am

working til now..
so far so good...
nothing strange happen eventhought i have removed the thermal pad which is originally placed it on top of ATI processor.
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#46 Post by agarza » Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:56 pm

I have a 3 weeks old T42p, here are the reading when downloading files/browsing the net:
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The GPU temps goes above 90C when gaming intensively sometimes:
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Should I apply AS5 considering I already have a tube, I'm only missing the ArticPurifier & Cleaner.

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#47 Post by nirvana0001 » Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:27 am

benottomex wrote:
Should I apply AS5 considering I already have a tube, I'm only missing the ArticPurifier & Cleaner.

Any suggestions?
I don't think you should use AS5 WITHOUT ArticPurifier & Cleaner
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#48 Post by nirvana0001 » Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:40 am

my CPU maintain at 80C when I am playing Battle Field 2
and it go back to 70C after 30 seconds I left the game.
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#49 Post by agarza » Thu Aug 24, 2006 1:26 am

NIRVANA, whats your gpu max temp when playing?
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#50 Post by nirvana0001 » Thu Aug 24, 2006 7:49 pm

i think 85C at 82F room temperture
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#51 Post by agarza » Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:13 am

nirvana0001 wrote:i think 85C at 82F room temperture
My GPU reaches that temperature when gaming.
I wonder if the Arctic Silver 5 is worth it. I will get the purifier next Tuesday or Wednesday. Where did you apply the AS5, in the core, in the GPU on top?? also, in both heatsink areas that contact the CPU/GPU ??

What's the red bottle?
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Also, you cleaned the CPU core with the purifier??

And which cloth you use to remove the goop??
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#52 Post by nirvana0001 » Fri Aug 25, 2006 2:29 am

1.) we are using two different GPU, i think mine is hotter than yours because of higher performance.
2.) If you read through the thead, you will find out it worth or not.
3.) the red bottle just for cleaning the dust inside the thinkpad, same as the one you use for LCD screen.
4.) i applied the AS5 on the top of GPU and CPU, make sure it's 1-2mm depth. you don't need to apply AS5 on heatsink because you don't know the exactly spots where they touch the CPU/GPU.
5.) i use purifier and cleaner for both CPU and GPU
6.) you will need to repeat the cleaning process 3-4 times, i use tissues and it works great.
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#53 Post by nirvana0001 » Fri Aug 25, 2006 3:40 am

Hey, I think you should buy a cooling fan, the one you place under the laptop with whole metal surface and 2 big fans, that would be more effective than using AS5, trust me, it will. 8)
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#54 Post by agarza » Fri Aug 25, 2006 10:53 am

nirvana0001 wrote: 4.) i applied the AS5 on the top of GPU and CPU, make sure it's 1-2mm depth. you don't need to apply AS5 on heatsink because you don't know the exactly spots where they touch the CPU/GPU.
I believe you put AS5 in the heatsink area that contacts the GPU:
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Am I right?

I don't want to buy an external case cooler because I want my laptop as quiet as I want, this is because sometimes I tend to leave the laptop on all night in the same room I sleep, and it's annoying to hear the fan rotating at more than 3500rpm.

I read the using AS5 reduce drastically the temperature generated after quiting playing or doing some intensive work with the CPU, that's why I need AS5.

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#55 Post by nirvana0001 » Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:33 pm

that picuture was a mistake, after applied AS5 on the heatsink, i found out that the area is actually larger than the surface of the GPU which is no good. recommand apply on GPU/CPU only.
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#56 Post by agarza » Fri Aug 25, 2006 3:46 pm

nirvana0001 wrote:that picuture was a mistake, after applied AS5 on the heatsink, i found out that the area is actually larger than the surface of the GPU which is no good. recommand apply on GPU/CPU only.
Ohh, you didn't notify that in the original message.

Anyways, I'm going to replace the OEM thermal compound IBM ships its laptops.

My CPU runs @ 46C when idle, surely after applying AS5 will run more cooler considering it runs @ 1.8GHz, more slower than yours.

How do I now if I'm appling just the right amount of compound?
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#57 Post by psteven » Fri Aug 25, 2006 4:17 pm

will this void the warranty have a t42 and a t43 with two years left on its warranty

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#58 Post by nirvana0001 » Fri Aug 25, 2006 5:05 pm

i think 1-2mm would be nice
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#59 Post by agarza » Sun Aug 27, 2006 4:47 pm

nirvana0001 wrote:i think 1-2mm would be nice
Any practical way to know If I'm aplying the correct amount of AS5?
Once I applied it to a T30, didn't a difference in temperature drop (as I didn't have a monitoring software to watch out CPU temp), but seems like the fan was working on a lower RPM range, because one day I started having the Fan Error message when booting. What I did, was to open the fan assembly and clean all the dust on the fan propellers and then apply some special oil in the mid section where that thing spins. However when I turn on the machine the fan doesn't throw out cold air as the OEM thermal compound used to.
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#60 Post by EOMtp » Sun Aug 27, 2006 6:14 pm

benottomex wrote:
nirvana0001 wrote:i think 1-2mm would be nice
Any practical way to know If I'm aplying the correct amount of AS5?
Nothing like 1-2mm! The compound is designed to fill air gaps between two potentially uneven surfaces. Ideally, one wants metal-to-metal contact except where the two flat surfaces have microscopic imperfections and do not make perfect contact with each other. It is those voids that the compound is designed to fill. A small fraction of a millimeter is the thinkness one should apply.

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