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Backup/Recovery using internal HD in external USB case

#1 Post by robert213 » Wed May 17, 2006 12:43 pm

I own an IBM ThinkPad T30 Type 2366-81U
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... yle=lenovo
P4-M 1.8GHz (512KB), upgraded to 512MB RAM, 40.0GB HDD, 8x-3.3x DVD-ROM, USB 2.0

My goal is to make a backup (or image copy) of my internal harddrive onto another internal HD mounted in an external USB case.

If needed, I plan to recover by simply moving the harddrive from external USB drive into ThinkPad T30 laptop. I don't want to run BIOS setup to update HD specs while swapping harddrives.

On IBM's website, the parts list shows...
ASM P/N 08K9687 and FRU P/N 08K9683

Inside of my machine...
ASM P/N 92P6331 and FRU P/N 92P6332
It is an IBM -- not Hitachi, not Toshiba

I ran a search on IBM's website and found that 92P6332 supercedes 08K9683, so it looks like everything matches.

Now, onto shopping for an IBM Travelstar 40GB HD - P/N 92P6332 (with caddy) and a USB 2.0 external HD housing.

Question #1
Powered-up my ThinkPad -- pressed [F1] for IBM BIOS Setup Utility
[StartUp][Boot][Hard Drive]

There are NO Cyl/Head/Sec parameters. Just IC25N040ATCS04-0-(PM),
and I don't think that I can change that.

I shutdown the machine and remove the Harddrive once again.

Model: IC25N040ATCS04-0
16383CYL. 16HEADS. 63SEC/T

How did the IBM BIOS learn the Model No. of my harddrive?

Question #2
Does Lenovo even sell IBM TravelStar Model # IC25N040ATCS04-0?

Question #3
How important is that my back-up harddrive has same number of cylinders, heads, and sectors as my primary harddrive?

Question #4

Can anyone recommend a retailer that sells new or salvaged IBM TravelStar HD's?

I have searched...

eBay, Froogle, Yahoo Shopping, PriceGrabber.com, Nextag.com, CNet.com, Buy.com, UBid.com, CDW.com, PC Connection.com, PCMall.com

Is anyone familiar with these retailers? Should I phone one of these retailers?

ePARTPoint -- an eBay store

http://www.expresspartsdirect.net/92p6332.html
IBM LENOVO HARD DRIVE 40GB 92P6332 -- Sale price: $131.86

http://shop.store.yahoo.com/impactcompu ... p6332.html
40GB Hard Drive (STD) - 92P6332 Sale price: $139.95

http://store.luluusa.com/92p6332.html
IBM Hard disk drive - (40 GB), STD - 92P6332 $169.00
Picture shows Hitachi logo. I have IBM logo.

http://www.memory4less.com/m4l_itemdeta ... d=27088354
IBM Corp. Your Price: $111.20
IBM Thinkpad 40GB Hard Drive (STD) Mfr p/n 92P6332

http://www.notebookparts.com/products/d ... 179&f1044b
IBM Thinkpad A31 Series Notebook 40GB Hard Drive -92P6332 Our Price: $139.95

Proton Computers - an eBay Store

http://www.serversupply.com/products/pa ... ?q=92P6332
$130.00
IBM - 40GB 4200RPM 2.5INCH 9.5MM IDE THINKPAD HARD DISK DRIVE. REFURB. IN STOCK.

http://www.upgradebay.com/c1_itemdetail ... =168681007
MANUFACTURER: IBM Corp. Price: $161.64
92P6332 IBM THINKPAD 40GB HARD DRIVE (STD) -IBM CORP. ORIGINALS

Question #5
I have no idea what brand of external USB case that will work with an IBM TravelStar HD. I have considered placing the back-up HD in the UltraBay location of my DVD/ROM drive. I think that I would prefer a USB case, instead. Someone please point me in the right direction to purchase the correct external USB case that will work for my application.
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#2 Post by storage_man » Wed May 17, 2006 1:36 pm

Robert213

I don't know if this is going to help, but I will tell you what I do. I have a IBM R31 ThinkPad of which I have upgraded the orginal IBM 20gb hard drive to a Hitachi 5400RPM 30gb drive.

I'm a firm believer of multiple backups for multiple purposes. There are two basic backup needs. Data file recovery and system recovery. File recovery happens when you invertently DELETE or CORRUPT one or more data files. You need to have an easy means to restore these files. This is usally accomplished from performing a Image copy to the source drive. The other recovery assumes that your hard drive DIES - Kaput ! Here you need a complete backup CLONED image of your existing drive to be able to recover.

A cloned image is sector by sector copy of your souce hard drive. What this means is that the cloned target drive, can replace the source drive and become a new replacement drive. A image backup of the source drive is compress image of the source drive and is usally placed in one or more targe files. The entire drive image can be recoverd or just a single file.

Most backup/recovery software usally will perform these two different types of backups. I happen to use ACRONIS True Image backup software.

Next what do I do for backups.

I purchase a standard IBM 4200RPM 30gb drive and a hard drive and a caddy for my ultrabay. I also purchase a 2.5" USB 2.0 drive enclosure in which I placed my old 20gb hard drive.

Once a month I perform a DISK to DISK CLONE from my source drive to my ultrabay drive. This gives me a bootable drive in case I experience a catastrophic error. This copy since it is on the IDE channel, is extremely fast and this clone completes in less than 15min.

Then what I usally do is perform a image copy of the source drive. This is performed to external USB drive. One thing that I didn't mention earlier is that the image copy lets you perform incremental backups ie: only backup data that has changed. This significantly reduces the time it takes to perform the image backup.

So what this gives me is a means to recover from any disaster very quickly. If I have a hard disk failure, I replace the HD from the caddy to the thinkpad main disk. Boot from this cloned backup, then proceed to restore from the image backup (if needed) any files that require that they be up to date.

I hope this helps on a stratagy for your backup need.s
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#3 Post by w0qj » Sun May 21, 2006 8:36 pm

You can make a Rescue & Recovery image onto both your internal HDD, and also an external USB HDD if you wish.

For details, please see:
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.ph ... 318#163318


BTW, Please be aware that this process formats your bootable external USB hard drive, so you will use all data that's on it!

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#4 Post by robert213 » Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:30 pm

USB2.0 to IDE Adapter for 2.5/3.5/5.25 HD(s).

I guess the question that I need to ask...

Are our IBM Travelstar HD(s) IDE or SATA?

Option #1: Ziotek Easy IDE

Image
http://images.cyberguys.com/images/prod_main/P9301A.jpg

http://www.cyberguys.com/templates/sear ... 1=131+0858
-- $29.95
-- USB 2.0 and compatible with USB 1.1 standards
-- Supports most types of IDE/ATA/ATAPI interface devices
-- Suitable for 2.5" or 3.5" HDD's
-- High-speed data transfer rates up to 480Mbps.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BS ... 3?n=172282
-- $29.95

Option #2: Sabrent USB 2.0 to IDE Cable

Image
http://tmg4apc.com/images/usb_to_ide_new.jpg

http://tmg4apc.com/product_info.php?cPa ... b878a8f943
-- $18.99
-- Complies with USB 2.0 standards
-- Backwards compatible to USB 1.1 standards
-- Complies with ATA/ATAPI-66 Spe. V1.0
-- Supports IDE and enhanced IDE hard drives
-- Supports ATA/ATAPI CD-ROM/R/RW DVD-ROM and more
-- External power adapter for IDE/ATAPI devices

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000A0 ... e&n=172282
-- $16.99

Option #3: Sabrent Slim 2.5" USB 2.0 Aluminum Hard Drive Enclosure

Image
http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B ... 56847_.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006B ... e&n=172282
-- $9.99
Sabrent 2.5" Super Slim USB 2.0 HD Enclosure Fast, Easy Way to Add Storage Space Transfer data quickly and easily, anywhere with this great external hard drive case! The USB 2.0 interface allows for data transfer rates up to 480Mbps. Its easy to use design allows you to quickly install 2.5-inch hard drives. This enclosure provides a fast, easy way to add more storage space to your desktop or notebook PC. You can even customize any 2.5" Hard disk to fit your particular needs. Although this enclosure's USB 2.0 interface allows users to read and write large files up to 480mbit per second, this device is also backward compatible to the USB 1.1 specification.

Option #4: Sabrent Serial ATA (SATA) to USB 2.0 Cable

Image
http://ec3.images-amazon.com/images/P/B ... ZZZZZ_.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000E6 ... e&n=172282
-- $24.99
Sabrent SATA to USB 2.0 Cable Converter Adapter The Hi-Speed USB 2.0 to Serial ATA (SATA) Drive Adapter creates a bridge between one USB 1.1/2.0 port and one Serial ATA or SATA-based mass storage device port. The USB 2.0 to SATA Drive Adapter turns any SATA hard drive into a convenient external drive.
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#5 Post by robert213 » Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:31 pm

I visited a local computer parts store this afternoon. They are selling brand new (in a sealed package)...

Hitachi Travelstar -- $64.00

P/N 07N8327
ASM P/N 92P6331
FRU P/N 92P6332

Model: IC25N040ATCS04-0
16383CYL. 16HEADS. 63SEC/T

Looks like this one...

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/ ... 402870.jpg

(ADMIN EDIT: You're getting a bit carried away with the embedded pics that add NOTHING to the content of your post.)

Now, I need to determine whether our Travelstar HD(s) are IDE or SATA?
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#6 Post by GomJabbar » Fri Jun 02, 2006 7:13 am

robert213 wrote:FRU P/N 92P6332

Now, I need to determine whether our Travelstar HD(s) are IDE or SATA?
All you had to do was Google the FRU part number 92P6332. Besides, the SATA drive is not used in ThinkPads until model T43 (the T30 is older than that).
[It's IDE] :wink:

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#7 Post by bill bolton » Fri Jun 02, 2006 8:35 am

robert213 wrote:Now, I need to determine whether our Travelstar HD(s) are IDE or SATA?
The drive in the picture you posted above is a mini-IDE (PATA) interface.

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#8 Post by JHEM » Fri Jun 02, 2006 8:46 am

GomJabbar wrote:Besides, the SATA drive is not used in ThinkPads until model T43 (the T30 is older than that).
T60 was the first T series machine with a SATA HD, not the T43.

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#9 Post by GomJabbar » Fri Jun 02, 2006 10:12 am

JHEM wrote:T60 was the first T series machine with a SATA HD, not the T43.
I was wrong. The T43 has a SATA controller, but a PATA hard drive. Sorry for the misinformation.
Regarding the T43, ThinkWiki wrote:FOOTNOTES [Δ] While the physical disk is PATA (IDE), it is accessed through a SATA controller and a SATA-to-PATA bridge. It thus appears as a SATA device to the operating system, which causes some problems under Linux. The SATA-to-PATA bridge also necessitates drive firmware changes, causing a problem with non-ThinkPad hard disks.
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T43

But you are not exactly correct either...........

If you check the Tabook, the Z60t was the first ThinkPad that used a SATA hard drive. According to the Tabook, the Z60t came out in Sept. 05. The Z60m came out in Oct. 05, and the T60, T60p, X60, & X60s came out in Feb. 06. All these models use a SATA hard drive.
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#10 Post by robert213 » Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:02 am

Thanks for all of your replies. I am new to the IBM Thinkpad world and would like to become familiar with the differences of each model.

My Thinkpad has an IBM Travelstar, P/N 08K9687...

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-42335
08K9687 -- Hard disk drive (40GB) 9.5 mm 4200 rpm, STD

The new Hitachi Travelstar that I am thinking of buying, P/N 07N8327...

I can't find it on IBM's website, but Google results show several stores
selling around $70. It is 4200 rpm.

Should I be shopping for TravelStar HD(s) at 5400 rpm??? Such as...

08K9758 -- Hard disk drive (40GB) 9.5 mm 5400 rpm, Toshiba
27L4384 -- Hard-disk drive (40GB) 9.5 mm 5400 rpm, STD
08K9834 -- Hard-disk drive (40GB) 9.5 mm 5400 rpm, HITACHI
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#11 Post by GomJabbar » Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:49 am

robert213 wrote:Should I be shopping for TravelStar HD(s) at 5400 rpm???
I would recommend getting at least a 5400 RPM drive. It really doesn't matter what brand you get. You just need one the same physical size and IDE (PATA). IBM uses drives from various manufacturers - Hitachi (TravelStar), Fujitsu, Toshiba, and maybe some others.

Here is a good link to find out about ThinkPad models:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:Models

For some reason, the Z60x models are not listed at the bottom of the page. Someone needs to update it.
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#12 Post by kstuart » Mon Jun 05, 2006 2:16 pm

I'm not sure about other models, but I know that the Hitachi 5k80 5400rpm drive has an 8mb cache.

Over the years, my experience has been that one of the biggest improvements in PC performance was the increase from 2mb cache in hard drives to 8mb cache. I think that the 2mb cache was a bottleneck in PC systems at the time that the 8mb cache drives first came out (several years ago).

I'm pretty sure that the 400% improvement in cache size makes more of a difference than these much smaller increases in rotational speed.

So, look up the details on the web of any drive you are buying to make sure that it is not a 2mb cache drive.
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#13 Post by robert213 » Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:15 pm

Making notes to myself -- trying to gather my thoughts...

http://www.hitachigst.com/portal/site/e ... 0aac4f0a0/

Table of hard disk drives: Travelstar
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/table2.htm
The newest hard disk drive models are identified with an asterisk (*).
E7K100 *
HTE721010G9AT00 100.00 GB Parallel-ATA 7200 RPM
HTE721080G9AT00 80.00 GB Parallel-ATA 7200 RPM
HTE721060G9AT00 60.00 GB Parallel-ATA 7200 RPM

7K100 *
HTS721010G9AT00 100.00 GB Parallel-ATA 7200 RPM
HTS721080G9AT00 80.00 GB Parallel-ATA 7200 RPM
HTS721060G9AT00 60.00 GB Parallel-ATA 7200 RPM

4K120*
HTS421212H9AT00 120 GB Parallel-ATA 4200 RPM
HTS421210H9AT00 100 GB Parallel-ATA 4200 RPM
HTS421280H9AT00 80 GB Parallel-ATA 4200 RPM
HTS421260H9AT00 60 GB Parallel-ATA 4200 RPM
HTS421240H9AT00 40 GB Parallel-ATA 4200 RPM

4K40 *
HTS424040M9AT00 40.00 GB IDE 4200 RPM

5K80 * -----> kstuart has 5k80 with 40MB <-------
HTS548080M9AT00 80.00 GB IDE 5400 RPM
HTS548060M9AT00 60.00 GB IDE 5400 RPM
HTS548040M9AT00 40.00 GB IDE 5400 RPM

E5K100 *
HTE541040G9AT00 40.00 GB Parallel-ATA 5400 RPM

5K100 *
HTS541010G9AT00 100.00 GB Parallel-ATA 5400 RPM
HTS541080G9AT00 80.00 GB Parallel-ATA 5400 RPM
HTS541060G9AT00 60.00 GB Parallel-ATA 5400 RPM
HTS541040G9AT00 40.00 GB Parallel-ATA 5400 RPM

4K80 (DK23FA)
HTS428080F9AT00 80.00 GB IDE 4200 RPM
HTS428060F9AT00 60.00 GB IDE 4200 RPM
HTS428040F9AT00 40.00 GB IDE 4200 RPM

C4K60 Slim (1.8" drive)*
HTC426060G8CE00 60.00 GB ATA-7 4200 RPM
HTC426040G8CE00 40.00 GB ATA-7 4200 RPM

C4K60 (1.8" drive) *
HTC426060G9AT00 60.00 GB IDE 4200 RPM
HTC426040G9AT00 40.00 GB IDE 4200 RPM

C4K40 (1.8" drive) *
HTC424040F9AT00 40.00 GB IDE 4200 RPM

7K60 *
HTS726060M9AT00 60.00 GB IDE 7200 RPM

E7K60 * (enhanced availability)
HTE726060M9AT00 60.00 GB IDE 7200 RPM
HTE726040M9AT00 40.00 GB IDE 7200 RPM

DK23EB
DK23EB-40 40.007 GB ATA-5 (Enhanced IDE) 5,400

DK23EA
DK23EA-60 60.011 GB ATA-5 (Enhanced IDE) 4,200
DK23EA-40 40.007 GB ATA-5 (Enhanced IDE) 4,200

DK23DA
DK23DA-40F 40.007 GB ATA-5 (Enhanced IDE) 4,200

DK23CA
DK23CA-75 7.501 GB ATA-5 (Enhanced IDE) 4,200

DK23BA
DK23BA-60 6.01 GB ATA-5 (Enhanced IDE) 4,200

80GN *
IC25N080ATMR04 80.00 GB IDE 4200 RPM
IC25N060ATMR04 60.00 GB IDE 4200 RPM
IC25N040ATMR04 40.00 GB IDE 4200 RPM
IC25N030ATMR04 30.00 GB IDE 4200 RPM
IC25N020ATMR04 20.00 GB IDE 4200 RPM

60GH
IC25T060ATCS05 60.01 GB IDE 5400 RPM

60GH (enhanced availability)
IC25T060ATCX05 60.01 GB IDE 5400 RPM

48GH
IC25T048ATDA05 48.00 GB IDE 5400 RPM

40GN -----> This is in my machine right now <------
IC25N040ATCS04 40.00 GB IDE 4200 RPM

40GNX *
IC25N040ATCS05 40.00 GB IDE 5400 RPM

40GNX * (enhanced availability)
IC25N040ATCX05 40.00 GB IDE 5400 RPM

The links on this page go to the product home page for the drive. The product home page has links to information specific to the drive.

Travelstar 80GN
http://www.hitachigst.com/portal/site/e ... 4eac4f0a0/
Highlights
Capacity - up to 80 GB
Rotational Speed - 4200 RPM
Interface standard - ATA-6
Average seek time - 12.0 ms

http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/80gn/80gn.htm
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/80gn/80gn_ov.htm
IC25N080ATMR04 80 GB 4200 ATA-6 8MB 4200rpm
IC25N060ATMR04 60 GB 4200 ATA-6 8MB 4200rpm
IC25N040ATMR04 40 GB 4200 ATA-6 2MB 4200rpm

Travelstar 5K100
http://www.hitachigst.com/portal/site/e ... 3aac4f0a0/
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/5k100/5k100.htm
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/5 ... 100_ov.htm
HTS541010G9AT00 100 5400 Parallel-ATA 8MB 5400rpm
HTS541080G9AT00 80 54001 Parallel-ATA 8MB 5400rpm
HTS541060G9AT00 60 54001 Parallel-ATA 8MB 5400rpm
HTS541040G9AT00 40 5400 Parallel-ATA 8MB 5400rpm

Travelstar E5K100
http://www.hitachigst.com/portal/site/e ... 3aac4f0a0/
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/e5k100/e5k100.htm
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/e ... 100_ov.htm
HTE541040G9AT00 40 5400 Parallel-ATA 8MB 5400rpm

Travelstar 5K160
Hitachi’s first perpendicular recording (PMR) hard drive
http://www.hitachigst.com/portal/site/e ... 7eac4f0a0/
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/5k160/5k160.htm
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/5 ... 160_ov.htm
HTS541616J9AT00 160 5400 Parallel-ATA 8MB 5400rpm
HTS541612J9AT00 120 5400 Parallel-ATA 8MB 5400rpm
HTS541680J9AT00 80 5400 Parallel-ATA 8MB 5400rpm
HTS541660J9AT00 60 5400 Parallel-ATA 8MB 5400rpm
HTS541640J9AT00 40 5400 Parallel-ATA 8MB 5400rpm

Travelstar 7K60
http://www.hitachigst.com/portal/site/e ... 4eac4f0a0/
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/7k60/7k60.htm
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/7k60/7k60_ov.htm
HTS726060M9AT00 60 7200 ATA-6 8MB 7200rpm

Travelstar E7K60
http://www.hitachigst.com/portal/site/e ... 4eac4f0a0/
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/e7k60/e7k60.htm
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/e ... k60_ov.htm
HTE726060M9AT00 60 7200 ATA-6 8MB 7200rpm
HTE726040M9AT00 40 7200 ATA-6 8MB 7200rpm

Travelstar 7K100
http://www.hitachigst.com/portal/site/e ... 0eac4f0a0/
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/7k100/7k100.htm
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/7 ... 100_ov.htm
HTS721010G9AT00 100 7200 Parallel-ATA 8MB 7200rpm
HTS721080G9AT00 80 7200 Parallel-ATA 8MB 7200rpm
HTS721060G9AT00 60 7200 Parallel-ATA 8MB 7200rpm

Travelstar E7K100
http://www.hitachigst.com/portal/site/e ... 0eac4f0a0/
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/e7k100/e7k100.htm
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/e ... 100_ov.htm
HTE721010G9AT00 100 7200 Parallel-ATA 8MB 7200rpm
HTE721080G9AT00 80 7200 Parallel-ATA 8MB 7200rpm
HTE721060G9AT00 60 7200 Parallel-ATA 8MB 7200rpm

Travelstar C4K40
http://www.hitachigst.com/portal/site/e ... 3aac4f0a0/
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/c4k40/c4k40.htm
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/c ... k40_ov.htm
HTC424040F9AT00 40 4,200 ATA-5 2MB 4200rpm

Travelstar C4K60
http://www.hitachigst.com/portal/site/e ... 3eac4f0a0/
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/c ... k60_ce.htm
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/c ... _ce_ov.htm
HTC426060G9AT00 60 4200 ATA-6/IDE 2MB 4200rpm
HTC426040G9AT00 40 4200 ATA-6/IDE 2MB 4200rpm

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLi ... 17&Go.y=31

HITACHI Travelstar 5K100 -- $60.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6822146041
HTS541040G9AT00 (13G1582) 40GB 5400 RPM 8MB Cache ATA-6 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM

Rosewill RX250-U Aluminum 2.5" USB 2.0 External Enclosure -- $14.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6817182033

HITACHI Travelstar E5K100 -- $69.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6822145096
HTE541040G9AT00 (0A27112) 40GB 5400 RPM 8MB Cache ATA-6 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM

Still haven't found what I am looking for...
Tuus-built T61: T8100 2.1 GHz, SXGA+, NVS140M, Patriot 4GB PC2-6400 DDR2-800, Samsung 840 120GB; Thinkpad T30: P4M 1.8 GHz, HYNIX 512 MB PC2700S DDR, Hitachi Travelstar 7K100 100GB; SilverStone Raven RVS01; 97 Volvo 850-R, 85 Mitsubishi Starion-ES, Keilwerth SX-90R, Ensoniq TS-12, Kawai EP-608

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#14 Post by robert213 » Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:31 pm

Well, if I am going thru all of this trouble to buy a spare harddrive, I might as well go with the fastest available -- 7200rpm.

I have an IBM T30 Type 2366-81U

Question #1
Since my machine has IDE HD with PATA interface -- I am guessing that I will NOT be able to use these harddrives???

Travelstar 7K60
http://www.hitachigst.com/portal/site/e ... 4eac4f0a0/
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/7k60/7k60.htm
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/7k60/7k60_ov.htm
HTS726060M9AT00 60 7200 ATA-6 8MB 7200rpm

Travelstar E7K60
http://www.hitachigst.com/portal/site/e ... 4eac4f0a0/
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/e7k60/e7k60.htm
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/e ... k60_ov.htm
HTE726060M9AT00 60 7200 ATA-6 8MB 7200rpm
HTE726040M9AT00 40 7200 ATA-6 8MB 7200rpm

Travelstar 7K100
http://www.hitachigst.com/portal/site/e ... 0eac4f0a0/
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/7k100/7k100.htm
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/7 ... 100_ov.htm
HTS721010G9AT00 100 7200 Parallel-ATA 8MB 7200rpm
HTS721080G9AT00 80 7200 Parallel-ATA 8MB 7200rpm
HTS721060G9AT00 60 7200 Parallel-ATA 8MB 7200rpm

Travelstar E7K100
http://www.hitachigst.com/portal/site/e ... 0eac4f0a0/
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/e7k100/e7k100.htm
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/e ... 100_ov.htm
HTE721010G9AT00 100 7200 Parallel-ATA 8MB 7200rpm
HTE721080G9AT00 80 7200 Parallel-ATA 8MB 7200rpm
HTE721060G9AT00 60 7200 Parallel-ATA 8MB 7200rpm


Question #2
Since my machine has IDE HD with PATA interface -- I am guessing that I WILL be able to use these harddrives???

7K60 *
HTS726060M9AT00 60.00 GB IDE 7200 RPM

E7K60 * (enhanced availability)
HTE726060M9AT00 60.00 GB IDE 7200 RPM
HTE726040M9AT00 40.00 GB IDE 7200 RPM

Question #3
Since my machine has IDE HD with PATA interface -- I am guessing that I will NOT be able to use these harddrives???

HITACHI Travelstar 5K100 -- $60.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6822146041
HTS541040G9AT00 (13G1582) 40GB 5400 RPM 8MB Cache ATA-6 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM

Travelstar 5K100
http://www.hitachigst.com/portal/site/e ... 3aac4f0a0/
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/5k100/5k100.htm
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/5 ... 100_ov.htm
HTS541010G9AT00 100 5400 Parallel-ATA 8MB 5400rpm
HTS541080G9AT00 80 54001 Parallel-ATA 8MB 5400rpm
HTS541060G9AT00 60 54001 Parallel-ATA 8MB 5400rpm
HTS541040G9AT00 40 5400 Parallel-ATA 8MB 5400rpm

HITACHI Travelstar E5K100 -- $69.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6822145096
HTE541040G9AT00 (0A27112) 40GB 5400 RPM 8MB Cache ATA-6 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM

Travelstar E5K100
http://www.hitachigst.com/portal/site/e ... 3aac4f0a0/
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/e5k100/e5k100.htm
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/e ... 100_ov.htm
HTE541040G9AT00 40 5400 Parallel-ATA 8MB 5400rpm

Question #4
Am I beginning to understand all of this?
Tuus-built T61: T8100 2.1 GHz, SXGA+, NVS140M, Patriot 4GB PC2-6400 DDR2-800, Samsung 840 120GB; Thinkpad T30: P4M 1.8 GHz, HYNIX 512 MB PC2700S DDR, Hitachi Travelstar 7K100 100GB; SilverStone Raven RVS01; 97 Volvo 850-R, 85 Mitsubishi Starion-ES, Keilwerth SX-90R, Ensoniq TS-12, Kawai EP-608

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#15 Post by robert213 » Thu Jun 08, 2006 12:43 pm

Anyone see any reason not to buy either one of these...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6822146020
# HITACHI Travelstar 7K60 HTS726060M9AT00 (08K0939) 60GB 7200 RPM ATA-6 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM

Average Latency: 4.2ms
Average Seek Time: 10ms
Cache: 8MB
Features: Designed for computing excellence Industry-leading capacity and performance in a 2.5" hard drive
Form Factor: 2.5"
Manufacturer Warranty: 3-Year
# Model #: HTS726060M9AT00
# Item #: N82E16822146020
# In Stock
* Original Price: $99.99
* Instant Savings: -$5.00
* $94.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6822146046
# HITACHI Travelstar 7K100 HTS721060G9AT00 60GB 7200 RPM ATA-6 Notebook Hard Drive - OEM

Average Latency: 4.2ms
Average Seek Time: 10ms
Average Write Time: 10.9ms
Cache: 8MB
Features: Desktop-like performance in a mobile drive Enhanced ABLE for maximum battery utilization Industry-leading robustness in both non-op and operating shock Optimized femto actuator/suspension design
Form Factor: 2.5"
Manufacturer Warranty: 3-Year
# Model #: HTS721060G9AT00
# Item #: N82E16822146046
# In Stock
$109.99
Tuus-built T61: T8100 2.1 GHz, SXGA+, NVS140M, Patriot 4GB PC2-6400 DDR2-800, Samsung 840 120GB; Thinkpad T30: P4M 1.8 GHz, HYNIX 512 MB PC2700S DDR, Hitachi Travelstar 7K100 100GB; SilverStone Raven RVS01; 97 Volvo 850-R, 85 Mitsubishi Starion-ES, Keilwerth SX-90R, Ensoniq TS-12, Kawai EP-608

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