Defragmentation issues with Rapid Restore Ultra 4.0

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Defragmentation issues with Rapid Restore Ultra 4.0

#1 Post by Fizfiz » Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:05 pm

What I'm trying to do is defrag my hard drive with Diskeeper 10, but no matter how many times I run it, my hard drive still shows to be heavily fragmented and it's all because of files in the RRUbackups folder. Ranging from 1200 fragments (I'm not joking) to 53 fragments, my harddrive seems to be in very bad shape (with 24% of my volume being heavily fragmented).

Is there a way to defrag that folder? Seeing as IBM loaded that folder (because I sure never made a recovery file) I would think it would have been made just after the OS was loaded and shouldn't be fragmented like that.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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#2 Post by vital-analitix » Sat Jun 03, 2006 8:36 am

As mentioned in another post I have done away with the IBM hidden partition. Just found it too slow when requiring a full restore. In addition I want to have full control over which versions I want to keep. Like my schedule is keeping daily, then after a week it becomes weekly and after a month it becomes monthly backups.

I have replaced this with two other products: One is an older product called Power Quest Disk Imager (PQDI) but that firm has been bought out by Norton. And Norton has more than once managed to buy out another competitor and then let that product go down the gurgler.

And with the new SATA drives becoming more common place I started to look around for another product. At this moment I am trialling Acronis and becoming familiar with its quirks.

What I do like about Acronis (which is basically a Linux based product if you want to do a restore booting from the hidden partition or from CD) is that from inside Windows you can "mount" the backup and get a single file back without having to do a restore. You can also check the integrity of the backup before doing a restore so that you know that you are not going to be stuck with your OS wiped and a backup that you cannot restore (happened once with PQDI - had to go back to an older backup)

What was surprising: when doing a full restore your hard disk will be totally defragmented and nicely starts at the start of the partition. So much for the "TrueImage" name (NOT a true image....) PQDI puts it back exactly as it was backed up.

And it is also usig the F11 restore key.

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Give Acronis TrueImage a Try

#3 Post by Peter Babelfish » Mon Jun 05, 2006 3:39 pm

Hi Fizfiz

You don't mention if you have Diskeeper I-FAAST enabled. If you have then it's likely that Diskeeper will never even attempt a complete defrag because it will follow I-FAAST settings for I-FAAST and Primary Defrag runs. Have you tried turning off I-FAAST, setting Primary Defragmentation Job Properties to 'Comprehensive Defragmentation' and then letting that run from a schedule? As far as I know that is the only way to try to force a complete defrag out of Diskeeper 10 (which I use as well).

Other thing you could try is a run or two of another defragmenter and see if it gets at the RRU stuff. Going by the advertisement this one prides itself on letting nothing past its attempts to make files contigatious. Can download a trail here:

http://www.raxco.com/products/perfectdisk2k/


In any case, I agree with Vital's view on Acronis TrueImage being a better way to deal with imaging and restore. I switched from Norton Ghost to Acronis over a year ago now and glad I made the change.

Maybe ditching RRU is the best way to go.
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Re: Give Acronis TrueImage a Try

#4 Post by Peter Babelfish » Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:55 pm

Peter Babelfish wrote:Hi Fizfiz

You don't mention if you have Diskeeper I-FAAST enabled. If you have then it's likely that Diskeeper will never even attempt a complete defrag because it will follow I-FAAST settings for I-FAAST and Primary Defrag runs. Have you tried turning off I-FAAST, setting Primary Defragmentation Job Properties to 'Comprehensive Defragmentation' and then letting that run from a schedule? As far as I know that is the only way to try to force a complete defrag out of Diskeeper 10 (which I use as well).

Other thing you could try is a run or two of another defragmenter and see if it gets at the RRU stuff. Going by the advertisement this one prides itself on letting nothing past its attempts to make files contiguous. Can download a trail here:

http://www.raxco.com/products/perfectdisk2k/


In any case, I agree with Vital's view on Acronis TrueImage being a better way to deal with imaging and restore. I switched from Norton Ghost to Acronis over a year ago now and glad I made the change.

Maybe ditching RRU is the best way to go.
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