Cany anybody read the 1600 x 1200 display on the T42P
Cany anybody read the 1600 x 1200 display on the T42P
My son wants me to boost IBM stock even more by getting him T42p during the NC sales tax holiday this weekend. My question is: is the 1600 x 1200 resolution on the T42p 15" LCD readable (it seems like it would be just too tiny for me)?
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Keith
(Formerly 600E 2645, T30 2366, X31 2673, T40 2373, T41 2379, T42 2373, T42 2379, T60 1952, T61p 8889, T61p 8891
Currently T420 4177-CTO, T430 2347-A54, T430 2347-UN9, T430 2349-L64, T430 2342-CTO, H520S 2561-1LU, Ideapad K1)
(Formerly 600E 2645, T30 2366, X31 2673, T40 2373, T41 2379, T42 2373, T42 2379, T60 1952, T61p 8889, T61p 8891
Currently T420 4177-CTO, T430 2347-A54, T430 2347-UN9, T430 2349-L64, T430 2342-CTO, H520S 2561-1LU, Ideapad K1)
In WindowsXP:
Start -> Settings -> Control Panel -> Display
Choose the Appearance tab.
Click on the Effects button.
Check "Use the following method to smooth edges of screen fonts".
Choose Clear Type from the resulting drop-down.
Press OK.
Press OK.
Start -> Settings -> Control Panel -> Display
Choose the Appearance tab.
Click on the Effects button.
Check "Use the following method to smooth edges of screen fonts".
Choose Clear Type from the resulting drop-down.
Press OK.
Press OK.
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nonny,nonny wrote:In WindowsXP:
Start -> Settings -> Control Panel -> Display
Choose the Appearance tab.
Click on the Effects button.
Check "Use the following method to smooth edges of screen fonts".
Choose Clear Type from the resulting drop-down.
Press OK.
Press OK.
I tried this but I cannot tell any difference. What is this cleartype adjustment supposed to do?
Thanks...
IBM ThinkPad
T42 2373-JXU
T42 2373-JXU
Cleartype is a clever subpixel antialiasing (smoothing) scheme for text.
If you turn it off and look at your icon text (such as "My Computer,") you can see the jaggy stairsteps of the individual pixels that make up each letter. If you turn on cleartype, windows takes advantage of a trick having to do with the nature of LCD displays to smooth out the text and make diagonal lines and curves in text look more natural. It is usually subtle, but is very noticeable for smaller type, such as 10-point Times Roman and especially in italicized print.
If you still can't see it, check out: http://www.microsoft.com/typography/cle ... uner/1.htm (make sure you're using IE)
It'll let you turn Cleartype on and off in realtime, and even let you choose different implementations of it for XP. Using this tool should let you see the difference it makes much more "clearly."
If you turn it off and look at your icon text (such as "My Computer,") you can see the jaggy stairsteps of the individual pixels that make up each letter. If you turn on cleartype, windows takes advantage of a trick having to do with the nature of LCD displays to smooth out the text and make diagonal lines and curves in text look more natural. It is usually subtle, but is very noticeable for smaller type, such as 10-point Times Roman and especially in italicized print.
If you still can't see it, check out: http://www.microsoft.com/typography/cle ... uner/1.htm (make sure you're using IE)
It'll let you turn Cleartype on and off in realtime, and even let you choose different implementations of it for XP. Using this tool should let you see the difference it makes much more "clearly."
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For sure I don't like the cleartype on my A20p 15" 1400x1050 screen. All text looks less defined (blurier) and whites and blacks just appear more into the grey spectrum. It must be a thing of tastes too, but i prefer definition and clarity (even when that allows you see some pixelation)versus smothings and bluryness.
I will check it that is the same on the T42p Flexview, but it must no be much different...
I will check it that is the same on the T42p Flexview, but it must no be much different...
X220t IPS but but a bit unhappy with it
T60p 2007-93U 1600x1200 IPS (T42p is an overall better machine though. Lack of new IPS Thinkpads keeps me buying these older models!)
T42p 2373-KXU 1600x1200 IPS (The best ever!!)
A20p 2629-6UU 1400x1050 (My first Thinkpad!)
T60p 2007-93U 1600x1200 IPS (T42p is an overall better machine though. Lack of new IPS Thinkpads keeps me buying these older models!)
T42p 2373-KXU 1600x1200 IPS (The best ever!!)
A20p 2629-6UU 1400x1050 (My first Thinkpad!)
I feel exactly the same way with certain resolutions. However, 16x12 on a 15" is high enough for me where the computer is essentially resolution-independent, and the pixels are small enough where Cleartype adds clarity without subtracting contrasty edges. If you check out the Microsoft page above, you'll see that there are actually two kinds of LCD implementations (RGB, BGR), and the wrong one will actually make text look worse - I don't know if LCD hardware have flags which denote which implementation they use, but you might want to make sure Windows is selecting the right format. Also, they have a few Cleartype variations for you to choose from - from light to bold - one of which may look better to you.
But in the end, I'm 100% with you that crisp, clear text beats fuzzy, low-contrast text any day of the week.
But in the end, I'm 100% with you that crisp, clear text beats fuzzy, low-contrast text any day of the week.
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The difference is not so visible, but still the text on the 15" Flexview 1600x1200 screen still looks better to me without the ClearType. To have that expensive screen to see latter on blury text is a no-no for me.
As Kenn said; "100% [] that crisp, clear text beats fuzzy, low-contrast text any day of the week." but tastes could vary here I guess... even if I do not know why!
(Ah, to answer the original question, yes I find that text is clear and visible on 1600x1200)
As Kenn said; "100% [] that crisp, clear text beats fuzzy, low-contrast text any day of the week." but tastes could vary here I guess... even if I do not know why!
(Ah, to answer the original question, yes I find that text is clear and visible on 1600x1200)
X220t IPS but but a bit unhappy with it
T60p 2007-93U 1600x1200 IPS (T42p is an overall better machine though. Lack of new IPS Thinkpads keeps me buying these older models!)
T42p 2373-KXU 1600x1200 IPS (The best ever!!)
A20p 2629-6UU 1400x1050 (My first Thinkpad!)
T60p 2007-93U 1600x1200 IPS (T42p is an overall better machine though. Lack of new IPS Thinkpads keeps me buying these older models!)
T42p 2373-KXU 1600x1200 IPS (The best ever!!)
A20p 2629-6UU 1400x1050 (My first Thinkpad!)
Wow, that was TOTALLY off-topictyipengr wrote:Totally off subject but I have been questioning myself about this - How does the sales tax holiday work on online purchases on multi-state websites like IBM.com? Do you just get the tax refunded to you by the state or does IBM.com just not charge you tax?
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There seems to be a much greater level of control via the ActiveX control from the MS website than via Control Panel > Display props. Does anyone know why that is.nonny wrote:In WindowsXP:
Start -> Settings -> Control Panel -> Display
Choose the Appearance tab.
Click on the Effects button.
Check "Use the following method to smooth edges of screen fonts".
Choose Clear Type from the resulting drop-down.
Press OK.
Press OK.
Re: Totally off topic - IBM charge you the sales tax at the time of purchase. You fax them the E599-H exemption certificate (that's the form number for NC) and they credit you back in about 3 months (at least, that's how it worked for me last year).
Keith
(Formerly 600E 2645, T30 2366, X31 2673, T40 2373, T41 2379, T42 2373, T42 2379, T60 1952, T61p 8889, T61p 8891
Currently T420 4177-CTO, T430 2347-A54, T430 2347-UN9, T430 2349-L64, T430 2342-CTO, H520S 2561-1LU, Ideapad K1)
(Formerly 600E 2645, T30 2366, X31 2673, T40 2373, T41 2379, T42 2373, T42 2379, T60 1952, T61p 8889, T61p 8891
Currently T420 4177-CTO, T430 2347-A54, T430 2347-UN9, T430 2349-L64, T430 2342-CTO, H520S 2561-1LU, Ideapad K1)
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