T21 and Linux (Ubuntu, MEPIS) Sleep Hibernate Issues

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T21 and Linux (Ubuntu, MEPIS) Sleep Hibernate Issues

#1 Post by gigi1234 » Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:21 pm

Hello all!

I have been installing and running various LINUX distros (mostly Ubuntu and Mepis) on my T21 for several months now.

I am completely sold, except for one continuing issue. The sleep and hibernate functions never work!

I basically use the computer as a desktop at home and my habit is to not turn it off, but just leave it on all the time. I suspect that this, combined with no sleeping and hibernating, led to the recent demise of the LCD display (inverter I think). Is this possible???

I have tried and tried to get an answer on Ubuntu's user forum about how to enable the sleep and hibernate functions but have never found a solution.

Does anyone know anything about these issues, especially for a
T21?

Thanks ahead of time, Gigi

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#2 Post by Hilbert » Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:22 pm

Here is some info about hibernation on a T23 under Fedora Core. Some of it may be relevant to you...

http://www.physics.wustl.edu/~alford/th ... 2.html#apm

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#3 Post by BarkingPerci » Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:14 am

Sorry to bump, but this is precisely my problem and I haven't been able to find a solution for months. I REALLY want to fully convert to Linux on my T21, but it just isn't practical for me if I can't get suspend to work. I got this laptop with the intent to run Linux, but this is just standing in my way.

I see other topics with similar issues and still no definitive solution:

That link above refers to FC2 when it is up to 6 now. I have my doubts about it working - has it been tried?

http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.ph ... hlight=t21
Does this work - no response from the original poster. If so, how does one go about implementing it?

http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.ph ... hlight=t21
I don't have an issue with sound - I just can't wake from a suspend.

This weekend I'll try installing SUSE again and try disabling acpi as this may work, but it would be a shame to loose it's functionality - I'd very much prefer to get Linux working with acpi enabled. (FYI I have a fully up to date BIOS)

I've tried MEPIS 6.0, Ubuntu 6.06 & 6.10, SUSE 10.1, and Fedora Core 6. None have worked for me - I'm willing to get 'under the hood' to fix this issue. There are solutions to "resume problems" for other laptops, but I was hoping a T2X owner could offer some wisdom and specific advice in this matter (I am a bit n00bish when it comes to getting down and dirty with the command line). Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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#4 Post by gigi1234 » Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:43 am

Hey there. I am running Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper) on my T21 now. If you go to system-> preferences->power managment and then choose "do nothing" in all the drop-down menus it seems to help.

However, the screen never completely goes dark-it will retain a faint backlit glow. This is okay during the day for me but then at night I will shut down completely to save my backlight.

Let me know what you find if you ever find some better solution.

One day I will get a modern laptop! But for some reason I just love my T21.

Good luck!

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#5 Post by BarkingPerci » Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:16 am

For me it seems it was acpi - if you can figure out how to disable acpi in the kernel more power to you, but SUSE 10.1 has the option to install w/ no ACPI (I believe it's the second option on the first screen of installation). Suspend to RAM works great - I haven't tried to disk as of yet. I'm just not clear on what I m giving up with acpi disabled.

Also, Fn F3 should turn off your screen if that's all you want.

* :cry: well no sound when I resume and the mixer dissapears
I can get sound back

After resuming, as root I did

/etc/rc.d/alsasound stop
/etc/rc.d/alsasound unload
/etc/rc.d/alsasound reload
/etc/rc.d/alsasound start

But no mixer - back to the google board - there has to be a more elegant solution to this
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Getting the screen to be totally dark.

#6 Post by newyorkpaulie » Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:29 am

My screen would not go totally dark (backlight still faintly lit) using all distros I tried except Freespire. If someone knows how to read the setup code the answer may lie there.

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#7 Post by The Spirit of X21 » Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:45 am

Sleep works in Ubuntu 6.10 on my X21, though hibernate does not. At least I can close it up and open it without shutting down.
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#8 Post by bzyk » Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:57 pm

You can add append option to turn off acpi at linux start. It looks like;
append = "acpi=off". I do not know what boot menager you use. If lilo, edit /etc/lilo.conf. In grub, you must edit /boot/grub/menu.list.
Generaly it's better way to use apm in T2xx. I have T23 with Slackware11 and kernel patched witch suspend2, and have no problems with suspend_to_ram, hibernate, and hot Fn keys (F3,F4 works fine). I use apm module (with acpi was some problems with suspend to ram).
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#9 Post by BarkingPerci » Sat Dec 23, 2006 11:40 am

I just wanted to add a few links. I'm considering giving x/k/Ubuntu 6.10 a shot and try to get acpi to work with suspend2.

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_ma ... t_features

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_make_ACPI_work

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Ibm-acpi
ACPI 3rd party driver - I'll admit I'm wary about trying this - but maybe I'll get brave (or someone else could be brave for me? ;) )

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Software_Suspend_2
Some have had success with this and it sounds great, but primarily I'm concerned with Suspend to RAM.

It works for me currently with SUSE 10.1 (acpi off) and I just manual restart the sound module via:
sudo /usr/sbin/rcalsasound restart
T21 | 800MHz | 256MB | 30GB HDD | DVD-ROM |

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