Italy vs France

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turbolium · #1 Post by **turbolium** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 12:40 pm

Make your bets !!!!!

who do you think is going to win WorldCup ???

ambientscape · #2 Post by **ambientscape** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 12:46 pm

Going for Italia!!

turbolium · #3 Post by **turbolium** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 12:48 pm

I have a feeling that France will win

but will cheer for italians !!!!

sugo · #4 Post by **sugo** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:14 pm

So Italy won.

turbolium · #5 Post by **turbolium** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:59 pm

cheers for italy !!!

#6 Post by **GomJabbar** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 7:42 pm

All's fair in love and head bu..... No I guess not.

christopher_wolf · #7 Post by **christopher_wolf** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 8:07 pm

GomJabbar wrote:All's fair in love and head bu..... No I guess not.

dsvochak · #8 Post by **dsvochak** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 9:09 pm

Deciding the World Cup on a penalty kick shoot out makes no sense. It's like deciding an extra inning baseball game or overtime football, basketball or hockey game by having the managers play "rock, paper, scissors".

Which may be why soccer will never be a big spectator sport in the USA.

NS · #9 Post by NS » Sun Jul 09, 2006 9:48 pm

Not in my category anymore, so i choose who cares!!!

Aiming for some other country but already got out before the beginning. Always look down on france but who knows they got in this year.

*slump*

smugiri · #10 Post by **smugiri** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 9:50 pm

dsvochak wrote:Deciding the World Cup on a penalty kick shoot out makes no sense. It's like deciding an extra inning baseball game or overtime football, basketball or hockey game by having the managers play "rock, paper, scissors".

Which may be why soccer will never be a big spectator sport in the USA.

Let me get this right, you think that this is like playing "rock, paper, scissors" and that the reason that soccer will never be a spectator sport in the NOrth America?

Seems you and this guy and these guys all agree . . .

But in the final analysis, another couple of bilion people in the rest of the world who watched that amazing final this afternoon, "rock, paper, scissors" and all, me included, simply don't seem to care what people in the North America think . . .

We just love the game.

Steve

#11 Post by **bill bolton** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 10:06 pm

smugiri wrote:We just love the game.

The referreeing needs needs a major overhaul though!

The number of poor decisions (the degree of simulation that went unpenalised etc), and outright mistakes (3 yellow cards before a send off) etc displayed at the peak level of the game is very disturbing!

Cheers,

Bill

JHEM · #12 Post by **JHEM** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 10:26 pm

smugiri wrote:Let me get this right, you think that this is like playing "rock, paper, scissors" and that the reason that soccer will never be a spectator sport in the NOrth America?

No, he specifically said in the USA Steve!

Unless Canada has somehow physically removed itself from North America?

Watching soccer is about as exciting as watching paint dry.

Regards,

James

dsvochak · #13 Post by **dsvochak** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 10:30 pm

smugiri wrote:

Let me get this right

Well, you didn't. I just said a penalty kick shoot out isn't the way the World Cup should be decided.

In the same way the NHL doesn't have shoot outs in the playoffs.

You play the game until someone wins.

If you're not going to do that, rock paper scissors is about as good a way as a penalty kick shoot out to decide who is the best team.

christopher_wolf · #14 Post by **christopher_wolf** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 10:47 pm

JHEM wrote: Watching soccer is about as exciting as watching paint dry.

Regards,

James

Punctuated with an hyperexcited accent *screaming* SCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR for a minute at the top of their lungs *just* as you are about to fall asleep.

NS · #15 Post by NS » Sun Jul 09, 2006 10:59 pm

christopher_wolf wrote:
JHEM wrote: Watching soccer is about as exciting as watching paint dry.

Regards,

James
Punctuated with an hyperexcited accent *screaming* SCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR for a minute at the top of their lungs *just* as you are about to fall asleep.

All night long, hearing all the crazy fans screaming GOALLLLLLL all night long and i can't sleep.

sugo · #16 Post by **sugo** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:43 am

NS wrote:All night long, hearing all the crazy fans screaming GOALLLLLLL all night long and i can't sleep.

The number of penalty kick goals probably didn't help

NS · #17 Post by NS » Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:42 am

sugo wrote:
NS wrote:All night long, hearing all the crazy fans screaming GOALLLLLLL all night long and i can't sleep.
The number of penalty kick goals probably didn't help

Penalty kicks? Worse still. They will shout and curse louder and stamp their foot till the ground vibrate.

dsigma6 · #18 Post by **dsigma6** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:52 am

i predict an italian victory. ill bet everything.

smugiri · #19 Post by **smugiri** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:36 pm

dsvochak wrote:smugiri wrote:
Let me get this right
Well, you didn't. I just said a penalty kick shoot out isn't the way the World Cup should be decided.

In the same way the NHL doesn't have shoot outs in the playoffs.

You play the game until someone wins.

If you're not going to do that, rock paper scissors is about as good a way as a penalty kick shoot out to decide who is the best team.

. . . nothing like the smell of napalm in the mornin' . . .

Actually, until recently (maybe 2002 or some point very close to that, I am not certain about dates), soccer games that ended in draws were decided by using the "golden goal" approach. For some reason they changed it.

And yes, while he did say USA, I added Canada into the mix since people here seem to have the same type of apathy towards soccer . . .

I cannot cannot cannot understand why anyone who would watch a 4 hour baseball game, where they actually have a designated rest period for fans - NOT PLAYERS BUT FANS - would complain about a soccer game . . .

But it could be me . . .

Sorry, it could be all 2 or so billion of us . . .

christopher_wolf · #20 Post by **christopher_wolf** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:51 pm

smugiri wrote: I cannot cannot cannot understand why anyone who would watch a 4 hour baseball game, where they actually have a designated rest period for fans - NOT PLAYERS BUT FANS - would complain about a soccer game . . .

Oh...maybe it is; after all, real excitement and mental activity in a game do make most people tired after awhile.

dsigma6 · #21 Post by **dsigma6** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:53 pm

fiesty one aren't ya?

christopher_wolf · #22 Post by **christopher_wolf** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:04 pm

dsigma6 wrote:fiesty one aren't ya?

Yup; that's what they all say.

Although I admit I am a bit puzzled at how a thread about who is going to win the World Cup, and we already know the winners, can turn into such absolutely *juicey* fla...active material and my "Editors at War" thread has to be pushed along like a Yugo up an incline with a PB&J sandwich in its carburetor. Beaten at a lively discussion by an old Who is Going to Win the World Cup thread...I mean, what do you have to do???

That is almost like losing to Italy, France....or England.

Now *here* is an exciting game! ( http://widelec.org/zidane.html )

Christopher "Duck, Cover & Run as well if you can" Wolf

dsvochak · #23 Post by **dsvochak** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:06 pm

All I meant was a penalty kick shoot out is a dumb way to decide the World Cup. But since you've raised the issue:

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the [censored] plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." Earl Weaver, Manager Baltimore Orioles, HOF

He's referring to American Football, but it applies to Football in the rest of the world.

But in the final analysis, another couple of bilion people in the rest of the world who watched that amazing final this afternoon, "rock, paper, scissors" and all, me included, simply don't seem to care what people in the North America think . . .

And, apparently, Vice Versa

#24 Post by **Kyocera** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:21 pm

James, (true to form) wrote:

Watching soccer is about as exciting as watching paint dry.

Indeed!

It was all over the radio today, mostly because some guy head butted some other guy who rolled around on the ground, and the other guy got thrown out, which apparently brought the excitement level of the game to never before seen heights!

JHEM · #25 Post by **JHEM** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 8:35 am

Kyocera wrote:It was all over the radio today, mostly because some guy head butted some other guy who rolled around on the ground, and the other guy got thrown out, which apparently brought the excitement level of the game to never before seen heights!

That was actually a good call.

The red card ejection was for over-acting!

Regards,

James

smugiri · #26 Post by **smugiri** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 8:35 pm

JHEM wrote:
Kyocera wrote:It was all over the radio today, mostly because some guy head butted some other guy who rolled around on the ground, and the other guy got thrown out, which apparently brought the excitement level of the game to never before seen heights!
That was actually a good call.

The red card ejection was for over-acting!

Regards,

James

Actually, no, red card was for the attack on another player.

But it seems there is a lot more to this than meets the eye.

It seems non-European players have a very rough time on European soccer pitches, check out this ESPN special from just before the world cup. Even more interesting is the fact that this piece is from ESPN since the European media and governments loath to deal with racial issues like these.

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