Lid/Resolution problem -- WHY WON'T THEY FIX THIS?

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daveman · #1 Post by **daveman** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:12 pm

I've got a new z60t and it has this dreaded lid closing resolution problem. Like others, I've tried everything, with varying degrees of success. I'm someone who likes closing the lid when not using it so this is really annoying me. I mean, this is a brand-new computer and Lenovo can't seem to fix this problem, which is apparently widespread across the different series.

I've tried the BIOS update that supposedly was supposed to fix it and it didn't. But here's the thing: I updated to version 1.19 which is the June date, and yet in my system config it says I have 1.19 (the latest) but lists the April (see: old version's) date! So now if I try to reinstall it it won't do it since it thinks it already is the latest, but is obvious something didn't go through right.

I've called Lenovo twice now and neither operator was familar with the lid problem. Nothing seems to work. Is it just me, or is this ridiculous?

daveman · #2 Post by **daveman** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:13 pm

So has anybody found a real fix yet?

sugo · #3 Post by **sugo** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:53 pm

It seems X60/s also has the same issue.

o1sowise · #4 Post by **o1sowise** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:47 am

Have you seen this?

daveman · #5 Post by **daveman** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:18 am

Yeah, I've seen all the threads. But none of these workarounds are true fixes. I've got it so it's tolerable, but I'm still waiting for an actual fix.

o1sowise · #6 Post by **o1sowise** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:31 am

daveman wrote:Yeah, I've seen all the threads. But none of these workarounds are true fixes. I've got it so it's tolerable, but I'm still waiting for an actual fix.

Good choice of words, tolerable. I'm waiting on an actual fix too, but not holding my breath.

ThinkZ61 · #7 Post by **ThinkZ61** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:25 pm

I fixed this following the suggestion by Henry Winter posted at Notebook Review.

I uninstalled the presentation manager but Fn + F7 still works fine, it just doesn't pop up the IBM presentation software anymore which is OK with me.

No more resolution change. I think it's problem with the IBM software which they try to resolve issuing new bios update.

Hopefully it helps.

o1sowise · #8 Post by **o1sowise** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:46 pm

ThinkZ61 wrote:I fixed this following the suggestion by Henry Winter posted at Notebook Review.

I uninstalled the presentation manager but Fn + F7 still works fine, it just doesn't pop up the IBM presentation software anymore which is OK with me.

No more resolution change. I think it's problem with the IBM software which they try to resolve issuing new bios update.

Hopefully it helps.

I tried that weeks ago. I've been running without Presentation Manager for a while. No change. I tried with old PM, newest PM, no PM.

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Sorry, I thought this was an answer to my problem (4 posts ago).
Please ignore my post.

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ThinkZ61 · #9 Post by **ThinkZ61** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:45 pm

o1sowise try this:

- Uninstall PM
- Press Fn + F7
It might show black screen
- Press Fn + F7
There should be 2 green screen icon displayed on the bottom of the screen
- Go to display properties and change resolution for both screens to 1280 x 768
- Press Fn + F7 one more time
There should be 1 green screen icon displayed now
- Go to display properties and change resolution to 1280 x 768

Now, try closing your LID and see what what happens.

daveman · #10 Post by **daveman** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 8:48 pm

ThinkZ61 wrote:o1sowise try this:

- Uninstall PM
- Press Fn + F7
It might show black screen
- Press Fn + F7
There should be 2 green screen icon displayed on the bottom of the screen
- Go to display properties and change resolution for both screens to 1280 x 768
- Press Fn + F7 one more time
There should be 1 green screen icon displayed now
- Go to display properties and change resolution to 1280 x 768

Now, try closing your LID and see what what happens.

Well, that's definitely the best fix yet, but it's still not truly fixed. That definitely helps, though, since it's quicker to go back to normal than the old way. Still, it blinks a few times. I definitely give you credit on coming up with the best solution so far, but it's still not instant as if it wasn't switching to anything at all. Nevertheless, thanks.

o1sowise · #11 Post by **o1sowise** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:08 am

ThinkZ61 wrote:o1sowise try this:

- Uninstall PM
- Press Fn + F7
It might show black screen
- Press Fn + F7
There should be 2 green screen icon displayed on the bottom of the screen
- Go to display properties and change resolution for both screens to 1280 x 768
- Press Fn + F7 one more time
There should be 1 green screen icon displayed now
- Go to display properties and change resolution to 1280 x 768

Now, try closing your LID and see what what happens.

WOW, Thank you so much!

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daveman · #12 Post by **daveman** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 1:02 am

Also, how come this bug didn't show up in a single review I've read (and I've read many). Has anyone seen this show up anywhere outside of the users' forums?

jagged · #13 Post by **jagged** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 9:55 am

Is the same problem occuring on the Z60m as well?

daveman · #14 Post by **daveman** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 11:32 am

jagged wrote:Is the same problem occuring on the Z60m as well?

I'm not sure, although I know it's not solely limited to the z60t.

daveman · #15 Post by **daveman** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 11:33 am

To those z60t owners with it--what is your type number? I wonder if only a particular type is afflicted with it. We need to get to the bottom of this somehow.

My z60t type is 2511.

ThinkZ61 · #16 Post by **ThinkZ61** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 12:36 pm

Well mine is z61t model # 9442EAU. I don't think there is anything wrong with the laptop. There might be a bug in the ThinkPad Presenation Manager software. After I uninstalled I don't have any problem at all. No more re-arranging the icons.

o1sowise · #17 Post by **o1sowise** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 1:48 pm

daveman wrote:To those z60t owners with it--what is your type number? I wonder if only a particular type is afflicted with it. We need to get to the bottom of this somehow.

My z60t type is 2511.

Mine is a 2511-e7u

daveman · #18 Post by **daveman** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 10:32 pm

ThinkZ61 wrote:Well mine is z61t model # 9442EAU. I don't think there is anything wrong with the laptop. There might be a bug in the ThinkPad Presenation Manager software. After I uninstalled I don't have any problem at all. No more re-arranging the icons.

That's odd since everyone else who has tried uninstalling the Presentation Director has reported no change, or at least no solution. I've tried everything, including that, to no avail.

daveman · #19 Post by **daveman** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:45 pm

So, any new news on this front?

unimorpheus · #20 Post by **unimorpheus** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 9:44 pm

I believe the latest BIOS upgrade addresses this issue.

#21 Post by **GomJabbar** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 12:08 am

Here is what someone else posted in another thread.

http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=29910

gearguy · #22 Post by **gearguy** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 4:42 pm

Remember that IBM Lenovo is the best make of laptop ever, this isn't a flaw, it's a design feature.

truthiness · #23 Post by **truthiness** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:07 pm

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-61687

among other fixes:

(Fix) When the LCD is closed and opened, the screen resolution may be changed to 800x600 (Only the models with the Intel video chip).
Note: After the BIOS update, update or re-install the video driver with version 6.14.10.4466a or higher.

daveman · #24 Post by **daveman** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:08 am

u2wedge wrote:http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-61687

among other fixes:

(Fix) When the LCD is closed and opened, the screen resolution may be changed to 800x600 (Only the models with the Intel video chip).
Note: After the BIOS update, update or re-install the video driver with version 6.14.10.4466a or higher.

This has been tried many times and despite the fact it says it fixes it, it doesn't.

panflute · #25 Post by **panflute** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 5:54 pm

The bios update fixed it in one of my laptops...
I have had different experiences with different Z60t laptops. Have a look at the adapter properties: some laptops display different video adapter/monitor features. When I messed with some of the adapter settings (right click on desktop/properties/settings/advanced) , it fixed the reslolution change. Still it is strange that some computers show advanced color/sizing properties and others don't, so there ARE different programs for the adapter settings. It seems that sometimes they fix something, break something else in the process, and come back and fix what they broke later. At the moment I have 2 different update programs, a software installer, and update manager, that seem to do the same thing in different ways.....

veky · #26 Post by **veky** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 5:44 pm

I was have the same problem on my Z60t.

After flashed new BIOS (and new VGA driver after that) the problem was solved.

CDN_Z60m · #27 Post by **CDN_Z60m** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:12 am

jagged wrote:Is the same problem occuring on the Z60m as well?

My Z60m has done this, although it was an isolated incident because it's only ever happened once and I open/close my laptop quite regularly because my room is dusty. I wasn't aware this was a systematic error until I happened upon this thread, I figured it was just a one-time random bug.

Z60m
15.4"
ATI 64MB
2529-E7U

Humpa · #28 Post by **Humpa** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 12:34 pm

ThinkZ61 wrote:o1sowise try this:

- Uninstall PM
- Press Fn + F7
It might show black screen
- Press Fn + F7
There should be 2 green screen icon displayed on the bottom of the screen
- Go to display properties and change resolution for both screens to 1280 x 768
- Press Fn + F7 one more time
There should be 1 green screen icon displayed now
- Go to display properties and change resolution to 1280 x 768

Now, try closing your LID and see what what happens.

Does this problem still exist?
I posted a new thread because I hadn't seen these old threads until it was pointed out to me. I didn't search far enough back since I assumed this was a new problem because it didn't happen to me until I recently updated the ATI X600 drivers with the ones released in September 2007.

The official fix in the BIOS specifies the intel video chip, but still I updated the BIOS, ECC, uninstalled Presentation Director, uninstalled the X600 dispaly adapter, reinstalled the X600 drivers, and then tried the Fn+7 fix I quoted above.

The Fn+7 work-around didn't help because I can't set the second display to 1680x1050. I can set the 2nd display to that, but it doesn't take - it just goes right back to 800x600.

I still have the problem, so I simply don't close the display.

dandaman61 · #29 Post by **dandaman61** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:56 pm

I have this problem too, but on my T60, 15.4 x1400

how come there is no fix? seriously!?

oasis200763A · #30 Post by **oasis200763A** » Tue Dec 25, 2007 3:28 pm

I have the same problem after reinstalling from R&R. The Fn+F7 solution hasn't solved the lid resolution change: despite changing all the displays to 1400x1050, it still resizes when closed. What should I do?

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