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New released of NHC

#1 Post by gunston » Sun Aug 06, 2006 8:12 am

Notebook Hardware Control 2.0 Pre-Release-02

hi, did anyone else give a try on this software, ???
i just wonder whether or not it still conflict with the Thinkpad Power Manager???
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#2 Post by djpharoah » Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:04 am

I tried it out - Its awesome!!

I personally dont use any of the IBM stuff any more - especially since NHC has all the features.
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#3 Post by gunston » Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:05 am

not using IBM stuff,
like IBM Power manager means that you would lost those internal settings?
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#4 Post by gunston » Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:06 am

djpharoah wrote:I tried it out - Its awesome!!

I personally dont use any of the IBM stuff any more - especially since NHC has all the features.
do you use NHC with TP Fan control?
any software conflict???
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#5 Post by cmarti » Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:22 am

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#6 Post by dorin » Sun Aug 06, 2006 5:33 pm

no conflict between nhc and tp fan control, not even with last version.

the trick is to use tp fancontrol service and voila!
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#7 Post by djpharoah » Sun Aug 06, 2006 7:18 pm

gunston wrote:
djpharoah wrote:I tried it out - Its awesome!!

I personally dont use any of the IBM stuff any more - especially since NHC has all the features.
do you use NHC with TP Fan control?
any software conflict???
Yes there is. NHC takes over the ACPI controls and TP Fan Control will continue to "beep" (ie: Error!) and wont be able to change the fan settings.

However using NHC its easy to undervolt your cpu - thus defeating the fan control
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#8 Post by gunston » Mon Aug 07, 2006 7:22 am

djpharoah wrote:
gunston wrote: do you use NHC with TP Fan control?
any software conflict???
Yes there is. NHC takes over the ACPI controls and TP Fan Control will continue to "beep" (ie: Error!) and wont be able to change the fan settings.

However using NHC its easy to undervolt your cpu - thus defeating the fan control
oh, don't you think RM clock utility is another good tool for undervolting?
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#9 Post by djpharoah » Mon Aug 07, 2006 7:42 am

gunston wrote:
djpharoah wrote: Yes there is. NHC takes over the ACPI controls and TP Fan Control will continue to "beep" (ie: Error!) and wont be able to change the fan settings.

However using NHC its easy to undervolt your cpu - thus defeating the fan control
oh, don't you think RM clock utility is another good tool for undervolting?
Frankly I havent tried RM clock utility but seeing as how NHC monitors temps, undervolts and displays a battery applet to view battery life - I really have no need for any other program.
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#10 Post by Jmmmmm » Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:26 am

djpharoah wrote:Frankly I havent tried RM clock utility but seeing as how NHC monitors temps, undervolts and displays a battery applet to view battery life - I really have no need for any other program.
rm clock is fine, but NHC is a lot more user friendly (to me) and has some more features. For some reason, NHC conflicts with thinkpad fancontrol for some people, and unfortunately I am one of those people, so i have to use rm clock instead. I am perfectly satisfied with rm clock though.
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#11 Post by ParzanM » Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:37 am

For some reason, NHC conflicts with thinkpad fancontrol for some people, and unfortunately I am one of those people, so i have to use rm clock instead. I am perfectly satisfied with rm clock though.

I have a T42(specs below). I'm just wondering how to check if your fans are still working without conflict with NHC. I just installed nhc and i cant seem to hear my fan. my cpu is about 48-54C and hdd at about 39-43C. Does the fan kick in at like 60C(cpu) or so? is there a program diagnostic to check if the TP fans are operational?

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#12 Post by djpharoah » Tue Aug 08, 2006 8:55 am

ParzanM wrote:I have a T42(specs below). I'm just wondering how to check if your fans are still working without conflict with NHC. I just installed nhc and i cant seem to hear my fan. my cpu is about 48-54C and hdd at about 39-43C. Does the fan kick in at like 60C(cpu) or so? is there a program diagnostic to check if the TP fans are operational?

Thanks
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PS. NHC is amazing
Hey cuz,

The reason you dont hear your fan that often is because of two reasons.

1) You have a Dothan core CPU - made on the .09 micron fabrication thus its extremely cooler . Also its Thermal Output is 21W.
2) Thinkpads have also a very laid back kinda of fan control. Remember they are meant for business....and not gaming..
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#13 Post by Jmmmmm » Wed Aug 09, 2006 2:10 am

ParzanM wrote:I have a T42(specs below). I'm just wondering how to check if your fans are still working without conflict with NHC. I just installed nhc and i cant seem to hear my fan. my cpu is about 48-54C and hdd at about 39-43C. Does the fan kick in at like 60C(cpu) or so? is there a program diagnostic to check if the TP fans are operational?

Thanks
Parzan

PS. NHC is amazing
It's not that your fans will stop working, it's that thinkpad fancontrol will stop controlling the fans. When you open up tpfancontrol and look at the 'log' at the bottom, it will say "Warning: Can't read status (possible conflict with other software)" over and over, and I think tpfancontrol will automatically quit after a certain number of those in a row. If that isn't happening, it's fine
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#14 Post by emaijala » Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:40 am

Jmmmmm wrote: It's not that your fans will stop working, it's that thinkpad fancontrol will stop controlling the fans. When you open up tpfancontrol and look at the 'log' at the bottom, it will say "Warning: Can't read status (possible conflict with other software)" over and over, and I think tpfancontrol will automatically quit after a certain number of those in a row. If that isn't happening, it's fine
That, by the way, should not happen so easily with the service version. I used to get frequent errors until I modified the reading method (and the modified method is used in the service version).

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#15 Post by Rovers3 » Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:05 pm

Would not work for me. It kept locking up my machine so i went back to 1.10C and no problems.
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#16 Post by pae77 » Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:18 pm

I didn't like the way the new version disable the TP battery maximizer icon on the task bar and replaced it with its own that doesn't link to the TP's battery management/info tools. So I too went back to the previous version which co-exists more gracefully with some TP utilities that I like.
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#17 Post by simms » Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:55 am

Worked fine for me, but no noticeable changes.
I like the power Manager more because the high visibility battery icon.

Did anyone get the ACPI to work? Or the ATI Powerplay?

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#18 Post by krosenstein » Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:10 pm

What exactly does NHC do differently or better than the IBM s/w?

And is it compatible with a non-Centrino T41 that has an IBM wireless card instead of an Intel?

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#19 Post by DIGITALgimpus » Sat Aug 12, 2006 8:55 am

simms wrote:Did anyone get the ACPI to work? Or the ATI Powerplay?
Indeed... that's what I'm looking for ACPI support.

edit: looking at docs, it doesn't seem that complicated... might try and see if I can add support for Thinkpad T series this weekend if I can get a chance to play with this.

edit2: so far doesn't seem possible due to limitations in the design for NHC... I'll try and contact the author and find out more.
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