opening x60 lid : does not always wake up from stand by

[truefalse]

In the last months I had some problems to wake up my x60 after a closed lid : just opening the lid and nothing happens, I can only switch off the laptop by pressing the power button long.

That is very annoying if I had a lots of works opened in it and I lose them.

And closing the lid, lighting the moon sign, I put it to a second skin case and after a 2 hours travel when I opened it I got back a 70 celsius hot laptop!
I am lucky, as it has not damaged.

Somehow it did not change to standby..

Is there anybody who found similar problems and could figure it out?

The XP has always the newest drivers, it has 1.06 BIOS, now I tried with 1.10, but opening the lid not always (means 1 failure from 10 success) starts the laptop.

[techflavor]

Never put a laptop that is in standby in a bag unless it's only for a couple minutes. If you are going to be longer than a few minutes, put it in hibernate mode or turn it off.

Sorry I cannot answer your other question about the resuming issues--mine works as expected.

[christopher_wolf]

It might be that an application is preventing the proper suspend and resume actions that need to be taken. Try disabling certain processes one by one and supending/resuming to help narrow it down.

[truefalse]

I am using the same softwares for more then a half a year, I have not installed anything to my laptop (as it is a working laptop) and this lid thing started one month ago.

Regarding the half year this lid problem was not present at all.

when I am updating my system I use to install the critical and recommended updates only.

I will follow your advise, I will hibernate it or switch off before putting it to a case, but the "opening lid and no action" is more painful for me: but I have found a workaround: seems stand by from start menu - shut down does not produce this issue.

[christopher_wolf]

I will follow your advise, I will hibernate it or switch off before putting it to a case, but the "opening lid and no action" is more painful for me: but I have found a workaround: seems stand by from start menu - shut down does not produce this issue.

There is a great clue.

That seems to tell me that something is off with the ACPI switch system device for that.

Could you check under Device Manager>System Devices and then check the properties of the following?

ACPI Fixed Feature Button

ACPI Lid

ACPI Sleep Button

Specifically, the Details>Power Capabilities for the ACPI Lid device; under that, you should see all the states it can go into and out of including operational D0 and, this is important, Wake_from_supported D3 state as well as D3 state itself. D0 is the operational state and should be the value returned when you access the Current Power State in the drop down box. It should have a PNP designation for the Hardware IDs (PNP*number).

Next, check the Power State Mappings, they should read as follows;

S0 -> D0 //Operational power-on state (1)
S1 -> Unspecified //First stage transitional sleep state
S2 -> Unspecified //Second stage transitional sleep state
S3 -> D3 //This is the Suspend-to-RAM sleep state
S4 -> D4 //This is the first stage of the RAM-to-Disk Hibernation State
S5 -> D5 //This is the deepest sleep state there is, operational off (0)

All of those should be mapped and in order for the lid to work correctly, they should also me mirrored in the other ACPI system devices.

Tell us what came of the aforementioned checks.

HTH

[truefalse]

I was wrong, sorry, it happens with start menu -> Stand by too.
But I did some research and seems it happens only after some 10-30 minutes. So this issue is not present if I just set it to stand by then in 5 minutes I try to wake up.

I have tried to minimize the running softwares : I have an apache running and a mysql server and all other softwares what came with the original XP installation, nothing else.

it has connected to lan with wifi and utp cabel.

I will check your notes on lid settings now.

[ganttguy]

Never put a laptop that is in standby in a bag unless it's only for a couple minutes.

Why not? What's the issue?

Usually (depending on the power manager setting) it goes into hibernate after a while anyway.

[christopher_wolf]

The issue is severalfold; it could have a scheduled process, that the user forgot about and is usually intensive, bring it out of standby or hibernation. Second, if it doesn't complete the suspend/hibernate process before it gets put in the bag and moved, it will stay on and might never complete because of the constant motion and, hence, drive head parking done by the HDAPS to prevent damage to the HDD. However, if inside the case whilst on for an extended period of time, it cannot cool sufficiently and will begin to heat up. This is not good.

The above points, however, are rendered moot if your Thinkpad goes into Suspend/Hibernate quickly enough and doesn't have a low-level system task to wake it up from either of those sleep states. I do it daily since my 701c through all my Thinkpads up to my T43 and I have yet to have any problems like that.

[boofoo]

Slightly off-topic, but I recently discovered that you can also wake a sleeping Thinkpad by holding down the Fn key. This is a little easier than using the power button.