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Return T43p and get a Macbook?

#1 Post by thinkweird » Sat Sep 23, 2006 2:37 pm

Hello everyone,

I just got my thinkpad T43P a few days and I like this machine (though the fan noise is a headache). yesterday I managed to install Mac OS x86 on this box and I immedately like the OS.

However, the wireless and ethernet card are not supported in MAC OS X86.

I heard that I can return the machine within 30 days of purchase unconditionally. So I am thinking of getting a Macbook and return this one.

Is it a good idea? Any suggestions?

If Thinkpad ships with Mac OS one day, that will be nine heaven.

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#2 Post by christopher_wolf » Sat Sep 23, 2006 2:53 pm

I still have one question; Why? :)

Did you look through the OS X forum here?

In any case, it depends on what you want to do with it. So what exactly do you want to do with your laptop? :)

In regards to Thinkpads shipping with OS X (not Mac OS, meaning 9 and previous versions by tradition), that isn't going to be happening anytime soon or out in the future from what Apple has said; neither are any other PC makers going to be able to preload OS X on their Intel-based system as Apple doesn't really allow that and probably won't given that it is their OS and it would be beneficial to them to not just hand it out to many PC makers all at once.

Of course, that didn't stop Dell from jumping the gun themselves and offering driver and software updates for their Dell laptops running *OS X*; that page was taken down quickly. :lol:
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#3 Post by thinkweird » Sat Sep 23, 2006 3:36 pm

Thinkpad with Mac OS will be a perfect match. The best hardware plus the best OS. :wink:

But since it is not happening offically in the long run, I guess I will stick to Thinkpad. Windows can do its job but using windows is not fun.

Linux is fan but it takes up too time to configure.

Is isn't a perfect world, isn't it?

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#4 Post by christopher_wolf » Sat Sep 23, 2006 3:44 pm

No, it isn't perfect world that's for sure; something or other always takes a certain amount of work that could be viewed as a form of deadweight loss from the standpoint of the user+machine system only.

Oh and isn't it *nice* to have a physical right mouse button too? :lol:

Enjoy your T43p. :)
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#5 Post by Ham-n-Swiss » Sat Sep 23, 2006 3:51 pm

Could you do me a favor before you return it. I have been thinking of getting the same unit. The issue that has caused me to hesitate is the screen resolution. I'm in my late 40s and am worried about the native UXGA being to small. I know you can change the setting in the "control panel" but have heard others say it makes it fuzzy. I like the sound of the machine otherwise, except possible the fan that many speak of, but I am willing to try once I have a better understanding of the ramifications of lowering the resolution. To those who are probably saying by now, just get a machine that you can use the native resolution with, I say"because this is available at a good price". Anyway could you change the screen to 1400x1050 or 1152x864 and report what it looks like. Those that always say"get it you'll love it" never mention that they are in their twenties and have perfect vision.

Thanks!

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#6 Post by thinkweird » Sat Sep 23, 2006 4:10 pm

Ham-n-Swiss wrote:Could you do me a favor before you return it. I have been thinking of getting the same unit. The issue that has caused me to hesitate is the screen resolution. I'm in my late 40s and am worried about the native UXGA being to small. I know you can change the setting in the "control panel" but have heard others say it makes it fuzzy. I like the sound of the machine otherwise, except possible the fan that many speak of, but I am willing to try once I have a better understanding of the ramifications of lowering the resolution. To those who are probably saying by now, just get a machine that you can use the native resolution with, I say"because this is available at a good price". Anyway could you change the screen to 1400x1050 or 1152x864 and report what it looks like. Those that always say"get it you'll love it" never mention that they are in their twenties and have perfect vision.

Thanks!
yes, sir!:wink:

The general advice is: if you don't like small fonts (even though they appear clear and crispy), don't use a 15" with UXGA screen.

Here is why:

1. I can read the words on its native 1600x1400 resolution, but it is too small though my vision with glasses is normal. I prefer 1024x768.

2. The available resolution modes are 1280x1024
1024x768 and 800x600. I didn't find the modes you mentioned above.

3. Right now I am using 1024x768. Yes, the fonts appear a little rugged but it is perfectly OK to read. I even like this display better when reading.

So my suggestion is if you have to read bigger fonts or do a lot of reading, don't spend money on this high end screen tailored more to the graphic users.

Or you can choose 1280x1024 as your resolution on this screen and personally I feel it is more comfortable for reading.

give me your email address and I can send you some screen shot if you want.
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#7 Post by dreamYu » Sat Sep 23, 2006 4:18 pm

I wouldn't recommend installing OS X on PC's without supported drivers etc. If you want the eyecandy of Apple's shiny OS, try flyakite's "conversion pack".

...And even if you don't want to install it, at least visit the site (enjoy OS X in your browser ;))

http://osx.portraitofakite.com/
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#8 Post by vinny77 » Sat Sep 23, 2006 9:49 pm

Just run freebsd on it.,



problem solved,

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#9 Post by tric » Sat Sep 23, 2006 11:13 pm

I dont know if you guys would agree with me. But for me, You cannot compare apples with oranges. That goes for a ThinkPad and a MacBook. They're 2 different types. I used to have a Powerbook too. For me, if you're doing high end desktop publishing/non-linear edition, then mac would be a good choice. But if you're developing applications (GIS, management softwares and stuff) then the pc would be your choice. So I guess it all boils down to what will you use it for.

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#10 Post by Ashiaveli » Sun Sep 24, 2006 9:10 am

get the macbook man. if you want mac, get it. put on bootcamp, install windows.

PERFECT setup for anyone who likes mac but still needs windows.

i have a t42 with osx on it, working 99% (graphic driver needs some work), but if i could i'd give it back for a macbook.

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#11 Post by christopher_wolf » Sun Sep 24, 2006 12:38 pm

Ashiaveli wrote:get the macbook man. if you want mac, get it. put on bootcamp, install windows.
Then, of course, have fun trying to find out how to right click with only one giant button. Or attempting to use the webcam or the backlit keyboard in windows. :lol:

I remember a time when Mac users had no real desire, and most strongly disliked, the idea of running Windows on Mac hardware that was optimized for MacOS.
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Not flaming you Chris, but...

#12 Post by davidspalding » Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:51 am

christopher_wolf wrote:
Ashiaveli wrote:get the macbook man. if you want mac, get it. put on bootcamp, install windows.
Then, of course, have fun trying to find out how to right click with only one giant button. Or attempting to use the webcam or the backlit keyboard in windows. :lol:

I remember a time when Mac users had no real desire, and most strongly disliked, the idea of running Windows on Mac hardware that was optimized for MacOS.
1. There are puh-lenty of multi-button meeces out there. That "one-button" stigma no longer really applies.

2. I have friends that ran Virtual PC on PowerBook G3's, it was fine (though a bit slow). Me, I <3 my TP, but Macs are really nice for certain niche uses and professions. I'm giving a friend some OS Tiger help right now (via IM)....

I have to admit some of these little MacBooks look cute, and appear quite portable. Comparing an X40/1 to a smallish MacBook, I'm not sure what my pick would be....
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#13 Post by gustafson » Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:23 pm

Dude, I have a Mac powerbook G4,
It is light, beautiful, and stable.
But why did you get a thinkpad? Windows system has the best software support. I barely can use my Mac to run a professional program in my field. So, think about it. if you just want to listen to music and watch movie, then go get a mac.

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