Sony Batterys - Lenovo Recall!!!

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rscosworth · #1 Post by **rscosworth** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 6:57 am

Have a look at this guys...

http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/5759/983/

Cheers

#2 Post by **GomJabbar** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 7:29 am

They're drawing conclusions. But those conclusions are probably accurate.

I'm glad my battery is a Sanyo. Then again, maybe not. If my battery was part of a recall, I could get a fresh new one to replace mine that only has 2/3rds of its original capacity!

rscosworth · #3 Post by **rscosworth** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 8:11 am

theyres defo going to be a recall

im in the know

rbsrao79 · #4 Post by **rbsrao79** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 10:41 am

*idle pondering*. I wonder if lenovo call centers have a special procedure for battery fire reports. Its one of those problems they would like to shoot to the top I suppose.

Rajeev

smek · #5 Post by **smek** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:30 pm

rbsrao79 wrote:*idle pondering*. I wonder if lenovo call centers have a special procedure for battery fire reports. Its one of those problems they would like to shoot to the top I suppose.

Rajeev

Id love to work on that line, proably one/two callers every 6-16 months.

alexzabr · #6 Post by **alexzabr** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 5:03 am

BTW, how an average Thinkpad user (private, not a company) would know about the recall if the one wil be initialized ?
My T43 is equipped with Sony battery, so should I track Lenovo web site daily watching for battery recall notification ?

kai jiang · #7 Post by **kai jiang** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:22 am

In fact, Lenovo is lucky. If the incident had occurred on a plane, the company could have been in deep trouble, For Sony, the expensive and highly embarrassing nightmare concerning its notebook batteries now appears to be far from over.

#8 Post by **GomJabbar** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 9:02 am

kai jiang wrote:In fact, Lenovo is lucky. If the incident had occurred on a plane, the company could have been in deep trouble, For Sony, the expensive and highly embarrassing nightmare concerning its notebook batteries now appears to be far from over.

You copied word for word from the iTWire article linked to in the original post. You should always make a reference when you quote a source, otherwise it is plagiarism.

christopher_wolf · #9 Post by **christopher_wolf** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 10:55 am

As is responding to any post with a series of quotes and links to articles.

rscosworth · #10 Post by **rscosworth** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:18 pm

well surprise surprise i was right

lenovo just announced

i have 7 batterys here in total, all not affected apparantly

mysbca · #11 Post by **mysbca** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:46 pm

Check for recalled batteries here:
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... ATT-LENOVO

alexzabr · #12 Post by **alexzabr** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 2:00 pm

Thanks a lot.
Will check it out...

Shi......!! Bummer ! My battery is affected and is subject to replacement .. agggg...really pissing me off
Now wait at least 3-4 weeks for the replacement (according to Lenovo info)...for some reason I suspect it may take muc longer...

maxx · #13 Post by **maxx** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:08 pm

I ran across this rather accidentially... and sure enough my battery is affected. Thanks for the information!

I don't mind getting a new battery for free

However, I was wondering why some batteries seem to deteriorate so quickly. Mine appears to still have the full 51.84Wh capacity after one year and 200 cycles. Is that even possible

Or am I looking this up in the wrong place (Power Manager>Battery Details) ?

Thanks again!

Max

zverg · #14 Post by **zverg** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:15 pm

maxx wrote: full 51.84Wh capacity after one year and 200 cycles. Is that even possible Or am I looking this up in the wrong place (Power Manager>Battery Details) ?

Thanks again!

Max

well that's shocking. Mine (affected by the recall) is at 34.5Wh capacity after one year and 181 cycles.

My sanyo ultrabay slim battery.. is down to 9 and won't actually power the laptop anymore. I think it has shorted out.. like it'll charge but can't power the laptop now. Sucks that my sanyo didn't go out with a boom. Maybe I'll light it on fire and submit the story to engadget.com so everyone can freak out (Sanyo is the world's largest battery maker, Sony is second largest).

tselling · #15 Post by **tselling** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:34 pm

My X60s 8-cell battery is affected. They say will be 4-6 weeks for replacement. My 3 T60 9-cell batteries and 1 T60 6-cell battery are unaffected by the recall.

I noticed that my T60 ultrabay batteries are also made by Sony. Has anyone heard anything about the ultrabay batteries possibly being recalled?

zverg · #16 Post by **zverg** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 4:18 pm

tselling wrote:My X60s 8-cell battery is affected. They say will be 4-6 weeks for replacement. My 3 T60 9-cell batteries and 1 T60 6-cell battery are unaffected by the recall.

I noticed that my T60 ultrabay batteries are also made by Sony. Has anyone heard anything about the ultrabay batteries possibly being recalled?

Did you check your ultrabay battery number yet? I would. My ultrabay battery is a Sanyo and it was working at 1/3 it's original capacity after a single year of usage.. then shorted out and won't work anymore.

Now I'm batteryless.. ugh I may have to resort to using my Dell Latitude LT.. oh that slick little 3-pounder

Well my thinkpad is almost always plugged in so the only inconvenience will be when I put it to sleep to travel from work back home.. I have to shut down now since hibernation is way disabled in XP (the hibernation tab isn't even in the power options control panel anymore).

MobileGuru · #17 Post by **MobileGuru** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 4:50 pm

The ultrabay batteries use a different implementation of technology, so they won't be affected by this kind of problem.

MG.

#18 Post by **GomJabbar** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 4:55 pm

According to this, Sony is going to recall all Sony-manufactured Li-Ion notebook batteries.

Sony issues global li-ion battery recall

Ars Technica wrote:Sony has finally bitten the bullet and issued a worldwide recall of all Sony-manufactured lithium-ion batteries used in notebook computers.

#19 Post by **GomJabbar** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 5:18 pm

Digging a little deeper, it makes me wonder if the Ars Technica article above is completely accurate. It might be. The wording in the two articles below could be taken a couple of different ways.

Sony plans battery replacement program

ITworld.com wrote:The company is planning a worldwide program to replace battery packs that use certain Sony lithium-ion cells, according to a brief statement issued Thursday

Sony’s faulty battery woes deepens

Financial Times wrote:Sony’s faulty battery woes deepened on Thursday as the Japanese electronics maker said it was starting a worldwide replacement programme for all its laptop batteries that meet certain specifications, regardless of who the machines themselves were made by.

Tigsman · #20 Post by **Tigsman** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:21 pm

Now my question is, why did it take a 500,000 unit recall from Lenovo to prompt Sony to take responsibility when their were already nearly 6 million batteries recalled between Dell and Apple.

I think Lenovo put a lot of pressure on Sony to take responsibility for their faulty product.

rbsrao79 · #21 Post by **rbsrao79** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:59 pm

My battery was not on the list. I'm curious as to how they make this list ? Is it a set of batches provided by sony ? Is it specific to batteries made at one particular facility ? Is it an entire design gone bad ? How exactly do they make these lists?

Any lenovo insiders here that can shed light ?

Rajeev

pianowizard · #22 Post by **pianowizard** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 10:24 pm

Unfortunately, by entering the bar code of my T43 battery on http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... ATT-LENOVO, I found that it is NOT recalled! That means no new battery for free!

BTW, I can't figure out what company made my battery. The only company name I can find is IBM. I don't see "Sony" or "Sanyo". And it's made in China. So was it made by IBM themselves?

#23 Post by **GomJabbar** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 10:38 pm

pianowizard wrote:BTW, I can't figure out what company made my battery. The only company name I can find is IBM. I don't see "Sony" or "Sanyo". And it's made in China. So was it made by IBM themselves?

With Battery Maximiser, left click once on the green battery icon in the Notification Area, then click on Battery Information > Information. All the info is located there. With Power Manager it probably works similarly, although I don't have it to say.

pianowizard · #24 Post by **pianowizard** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 10:52 pm

Huh, I didn't think of that! Thanks GomJabbar. Mine was made by Panasonic. I am praying that Panasonic will recall their batteries soon!

WildEye · #25 Post by **WildEye** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 6:42 am

Called IBM Norway this morning, as my battery is part of the recall... They gave an estimate of 4-6 weeks in regards to when the new batteries will be avaiable in the hands of the customers!!!

Using a laptop with powercord for a month and a half... *ugh*

Better safe than sorry I guess.

viper81 · #26 Post by **viper81** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:02 am

Like some forumers here, I too am not affected by the recall despite using a Sony battery and purchased the x60 in July 2006. Battery was manufactured in April 2006 too.

Anyone has any clue why our batteries are not recalled?

#27 Post by **archer6** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:44 am

I used the automated solution "detect battery information on the system you are using". For those of you that have not gone to the Lenovo home page yet, it's on the lower left under battery recalll "learn more". It was very fast, easy and from what I understand the most accurate way to determine if your battery is one on the recall list.

Once again, this reminds me of the great benefits of owning a ThinkPad. They provided a very easy to use software tool, that is also a snap to remove once done. I checked each of my 60 series ThinkPads in just a few minutes each. Luckily I have Panasonic or Sanyo batteries so I'm not affected.

Conversely I have a few friends in college that are using Dell's and they had a much more dificult time of identifying the battery in their laptops. Then to make matters worse some have had their original batteries returned saying they were not affected, yet they had the offending serial/part number! At times like this the ThinkPad brand stands out as providing the best service and support.

benplaut · #28 Post by **benplaut** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:02 pm

archer6 wrote:Luckily I have Panasonic or Sanyo batteries so I'm not affected.

Luckily?! I'd think pretty much everyone would be happy to get a new battery!

I have a sony battery in my T40, but it's much too old

alexzabr · #29 Post by **alexzabr** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:16 pm

bplaut wrote: Luckily?! I'd think pretty much everyone would be happy to get a new battery!

I have a sony battery in my T40, but it's much too old

Depends...
Mine is still nearly new (I own my brand new purchased machine for just about 4 months holds nearly 98% of its capacity despite about 30 cycles on it) and I depend on battery for my study work. I used to lug it with me and work in the places where no power outet is available thereby saving lots of time (which is a real asset for me).
So now I'll be stuck not being able to work efficiently for about two months....

BudC · #30 Post by **BudC** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:18 pm

archer6 wrote:I used the automated solution "detect battery information on the system you are using".

I used this software and it said I needed a new battery but the bar code approach said no. I also called the service center and they checked the bar code and also said not affected.

I think the bar code is the only true way you can tell.

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