X60 more reliable than X60s

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robinchee · #1 Post by **robinchee** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:24 am

I'm looking to buy a X60s but someone said that the X60s give a lot of problems and advised me to buy a X60 instead. Also he said the X60 battery life only slightly worse than X60s and not that much difference. Any opinions?

gunston · #2 Post by **gunston** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:18 am

not really,
it depends on ur daily usage on your thinkpad too.

as i am happy with my X60s, instead of giving me longer lasting battery life, it has lighter weight comparing to X60.

well, LV2400 1.66Ghz is more than enough for me to do daily work such as word processing, report, internet surfing.
if you need a unit which can do a graphical intensive task smoothly, i would suggest T60, neither X60 nor X60s can do that well.

dfumento · #3 Post by **dfumento** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:19 am

My undergrad degree is BS Elect Engr/Comp Sci and I assure you that the X60 and X60s are both excellent machines. I use my x60s extensively and it is wonderful.

Just be certain to get 1 GB RAM stick b/c there is not enough RAM in these units and don't forget to defrag your HD.

pianowizard · #4 Post by **pianowizard** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:55 am

dfumento, I just noticed in your signature that you seem to be a big fan of the A series. I bought an A31p with UXGA on eBay last week but the seller accidentally sent me an A31 with XGA instead, so I had to return it, delaying my first-ever experience with UXGA by about two weeks.

dfumento · #5 Post by **dfumento** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:57 pm

pianowizard wrote:dfumento, I just noticed in your signature that you seem to be a big fan of the A series. I bought an A31p with UXGA on eBay last week but the seller accidentally sent me an A31 with XGA instead, so I had to return it, delaying my first-ever experience with UXGA by about two weeks.

A fine unit -- use it in good health. I only own the X60s now.

gunston · #6 Post by **gunston** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 7:30 pm

X60s is just more than enough for daily usage.
for DVD entertainment, connect it to a large screen LCD...
you would enjoy it

SkiBunny · #7 Post by **SkiBunny** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 5:28 pm

At IBM i have used numerous X60 and X60s models. These are nearly identical machines. It's like compariing two of the same Lexus models, albeit with a few different options.

The options on the preconfigured model you choose will make much more of a difference than whether it's an X60 or X60s. For example, my X60 170997U is virtually identical to an X60s 170469U... the only difference is mine has a wee more power being 1.83 ghz instead of 1.66 ghz (impercetible) but mine weighs a tenth of a pound more (imperceptible) and the battery life is 12 minutes less (again almost imperceptible). So otherwise, they're identical machines.

I don't think there's any difference in terms of quality or robustness. They're cast from the same mold.

My advice would be to buy the better deal or promotion... or buy an X60 if you want Core 2 Duo.

#8 Post by **tomh009** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:35 pm

SkiBunny wrote:The options on the preconfigured model you choose will make much more of a difference than whether it's an X60 or X60s. For example, my X60 170997U is virtually identical to an X60s 170469U... the only difference is mine has a wee more power being 1.83 ghz instead of 1.66 ghz (impercetible) but mine weighs a tenth of a pound more (imperceptible) and the battery life is 12 minutes less (again almost imperceptible). So otherwise, they're identical machines.

Does the LV CPU make any difference in performance, assuming the same GHz? Or is it just more clever with regards to power consumption? (Assuming Core Duo, not Core 2 Duo!)

SkiBunny · #9 Post by **SkiBunny** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:47 pm

tomh009 wrote: Does the LV CPU make any difference in performance, assuming the same GHz? Or is it just more clever with regards to power consumption? (Assuming Core Duo, not Core 2 Duo!)

I'm not sure but I guess that the speeds of a 1.66 ghz LV equals the speed of a regular processor.

One thing of which I am sure of, is that the proper condition & care of your battery has WAY more impact on how long you run on battery than does the processor. I very carefully monitored my battery power meters comparing the X60s and X60 at IBM and, for the types of tasks I perform on my laptop, there was no advantage for me to have an LV processor... watts consumed and battery longevity were the same. Understand that I had the power consumption scheme set to optimize source on both the X60 and X60s.

Turning down the display, cutting out background tasks, etc (and perhaps adopting a power scheme that conserves battery) were the significant factors for battery longevity, not the processor.

At least, that's what I found from my exhaustive trials of how I use my laptop (not a power user).

And as for the subject matter of this thread, I felt the quality and robustness of the X60 and X60s were equivalent.

#10 Post by **tomh009** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:24 pm

SkiBunny wrote:I'm not sure but I guess that the speeds of a 1.66 ghz LV equals the speed of a regular processor.

One thing of which I am sure of, is that the proper condition & care of your battery has WAY more impact on how long you run on battery than does the processor. I very carefully monitored my battery power meters comparing the X60s and X60 at IBM and, for the types of tasks I perform on my laptop, there was no advantage for me to have an LV processor... watts consumed and battery longevity were the same. Understand that I had the power consumption scheme set to optimize source on both the X60 and X60s.

Turning down the display, cutting out background tasks, etc (and perhaps adopting a power scheme that conserves battery) were the significant factors for battery longevity, not the processor.

At least, that's what I found from my exhaustive trials of how I use my laptop (not a power user).

And as for the subject matter of this thread, I felt the quality and robustness of the X60 and X60s were equivalent.

I tend to agree with you ... I'm curious, though, as to whether you tuned the CPU voltages with CHC or NHC or your X60?

My X31 is up to around 400 discharge cycles, and I can still get over three hours on a plane (no wireless, display down, aggressive power management -- plus lower voltages set with CHC). Now thinking about the X60/X60s thing. Your post had definitely nudged me in the X60 direction -- especially as the X60 is already lighter than the X31.

P.S. One advantage of working at IBM (besides not being forced into using Dell laptops!) is being able to compare the X60 and X60s side by side -- most of us don't get a chance to do that.

Unil_Lausanne · #11 Post by **Unil_Lausanne** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 7:18 am

I have already ordered a X60, hope it won't be as noisy as my T60 ...... God bless me.......

X60 more reliable than X60s

X60 more reliable than X60s

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