Linux keyboard on T60?

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Linux keyboard on T60?

#1 Post by jayeye » Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:12 pm

I just received a T60p, and it has the infernal Windows key. Is there some secret FRU number that's a keyboard without the windows key? It's bad enough that I had to pay the "Microsoft Tax", I don't want my fingres to suffer too.

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#2 Post by christopher_wolf » Thu Nov 30, 2006 1:35 pm

No, there isn't a "secret" keyboard FRU that doesn't have the Windows Key, all of the T60 Series Thinkpads have that. Just rebind it as a super/meta key modifier in Linux, just about every distro will let you use it. :)
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#3 Post by Turbo Audi » Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:18 pm

Last night I binded the Windows key to execute 3ddesktop. (What a memory hog 3ddesk is!)
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#4 Post by jayeye » Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:36 pm

[quote="christopher_wolf"]No, there isn't a "secret" keyboard FRU that doesn't have the Windows Key, all of the T60 Series Thinkpads have that. Just rebind it as a super/meta key modifier in Linux, just about every distro will let you use it. :)[/quote]

That's not the point. It's *annoying*. If I wanted extra keys, I would have kept my Symbolics 3640 :)

Oh well, I'll get used to it. Maybe I'll machine a large keycap and fit it over the two posts... or maybe someone here has a access to a 3D printer I could use?
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#5 Post by christopher_wolf » Thu Nov 30, 2006 9:04 pm

Ehh, I hate it too...but there isn't anything that I can do about it moment, so why worry after that? It literally isn't worth wasting time over, especially not hardware modification. Quite a few threads talked about that just a little before the release and during the early months. As long as the keyboard quality stays excellent, I can live with a little extra key there. I have seen systems where people put a Daemon or a Tux logo on it. :)
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#6 Post by DarkThinker » Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:01 am

Hey jayeye,

We are having a nice discussion about this very issue and I' am trying to see what can be done (basically we are building castles in the sky hehe), but what I really am interested in, is how many people in this forum would like Lenovo to have a T4x style keyboard option for those who would really like to have it, so feel free to drop in your opinion there ;)

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short runs of keyboards

#7 Post by jayeye » Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:51 am

Do keyboards for different languages differ only in the keycaps they have, or also in their physical structure? I recall using, in the distant past, a Greek Type M keyboard with a key between the Left Shift and the Z keys (really aggravating). Has this practice carried on into laptops?

If so, it would indicate that PC manufacturers are prepared to make shorter runs of keyboard for languages with a smaller number of speakers, and asking for a Linux keyboard may not be such an outlandish request. While we are dreaming, we may ask for the control key to go back to its proper place :)
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Re: short runs of keyboards

#8 Post by DarkThinker » Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:40 am

jayeye wrote:Do keyboards for different languages differ only in the keycaps they have, or also in their physical structure? I recall using, in the distant past, a Greek Type M keyboard with a key between the Left Shift and the Z keys (really aggravating). Has this practice carried on into laptops?

If so, it would indicate that PC manufacturers are prepared to make shorter runs of keyboard for languages with a smaller number of speakers, and asking for a Linux keyboard may not be such an outlandish request. While we are dreaming, we may ask for the control key to go back to its proper place :)
I think it's quiet resonable :)

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#9 Post by noworrries » Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:43 pm

Do keyboards for different languages differ only in the keycaps they have, or also in their physical structure?
At least between US and German keyboard, there is a physical difference. (Shift key on US is about double the width of the German keyboard's. There is another key instead)

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#10 Post by whizkid » Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:50 am

Since I'm moving from a 600X to a T60, here's what I miss:

o Being able to turn the thing on WITHOUT opening it.
o Fn+PgUp and Fn+PgDn controlling volume.
o Decent sized space, ctrl and alt keys

"extras" I can do without:
o TouchPad. Please let me buy a bezel without one!
o back and forward keys. AAAAAGH! Thank you so very bloody much for those.

I do actually use the menu key, but rarely the window key... and I am a programmer.
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