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Cable Crimps? If anyone willing to give the proper word PICS

#1 Post by ennma » Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:03 am

Hi all, I am trying to fix my George Forman grill,

picture one , is the cable crimp(is this the correct term) still intact:
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picture two, is the destroyed crimp:
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planning to buy one and put them together again.

I just can not believe it would break like that, would have been hazardous.

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#2 Post by bill bolton » Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:29 am

Its called a female spade crimp connector, probably 16-18 AWG gauge wire from the looks of the photo.

Take the photo along to show the folks at the electrical store.

You'll probably have to buy a packet of 20 or so, plus a crimp tool. Or find a buddy who has a crimp tool one and borrow it.

Please excercise extreme care when doing home repairs to any mains powered equipment.

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#3 Post by Kyocera » Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:01 am

Send those pics to George #1 and warn them about that, might save a life. That looks like a connection through a thermal fuse thermo switch, which is in itself part of the safety features.

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#4 Post by Dngrsone » Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:21 am

There was a little too much current running through that wire... and/or it's very old.

At any rate, you might want to find out what caused the original connector to burn before you put the unit back into service.
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#5 Post by GomJabbar » Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:35 am

Dngrsone wrote:There was a little too much current running through that wire... and/or it's very old.

At any rate, you might want to find out what caused the original connector to burn before you put the unit back into service.
This type of thing (overheating) is actually caused by a poor connection - probably between the wire and the spade connector or possibly (somewhat less likely) between the male and female spade connectors. It looks like the other connection is beginning to overheat as well and the spade connector on the other wire should be replaced. The wire itself is designed with special high temperature insulation (probably fiberglass) that will not easily burn or melt.

EDIT: To elaborate further... The problem stems from oxidation of the copper wire over time. One way to help prevent this in the future would be to Silver Solder the wire to the spade connector after crimping it. Normal lead/tin wire solder could possibly melt because of the temperatures in the area. All oxidation on the outside of the wire should be removed by scraping with a blade before crimping on the connector, and it helps to use a proper crimping tool to make the crimp.

EDIT 2: After writing the above, I decided to do a little research on solders. My use of the term Silver Solder above could be misleading as there are several types of Silver Solder with quite divergent properties. It appears the proper type would be a 5% tin/93% lead/2% silver alloy solder. This solder melts at 565-574 deg. F as opposed to common electronic 60% tin/40% lead allow solder which melts at 361-374 deg. F. The above solder can be purchased with a flux core. If solid wire solder was used instead, then the appropriate external flux must be applied for a proper joint.
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#6 Post by bill bolton » Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:07 pm

Dngrsone wrote:There was a little too much current running through that wire...
Its most likely just a simple break in the connector body.

They are not very sturdy and only really meant for convenience in terms of assembly or maintenace replacement of a component, so its fairly easy to damge them.

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#7 Post by ennma » Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:34 pm

Thank you all for the reply, I am heading to Ace tomorrow, get new
spade connectors, and fix the grill.

The grill is great, I just wished I had used PAM, for cooking, some of the teflon is flaking.

thanks again
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#8 Post by JHEM » Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:20 pm

ennma wrote:some of the teflon is flaking.
Replace it. Don't consume teflon with your meals.

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