Old hardrive used as a external storage.

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cmarti · #1 Post by **cmarti** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:22 pm

I know this is suposed to be easy but i cannot make it work.

I replace the hardrive of my X60 with a 7K100 100GB and now i have a 80GB toshiba drive without any use for it, i got a external usb case and i tried to format the old drive with windows and also with a Xp pro cd booting from it. It is installed but windows cannot see it.

I rule out the case using another adapter and i am having the same results with the second one.

It was working ok in the X60, what is the reason it not being recognized by XP? Maybe the hidden partition?

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Carlos.

#2 Post by **carbon_unit** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:12 pm

Did you have a password on the drive? That will mess things up when using it in a USB enclosure.
Maybe put it back in the X60 and unhide the hidden partition in the bios then clear any passwords.

cmarti · #3 Post by **cmarti** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:42 pm

carbon_unit wrote:Did you have a password on the drive? That will mess things up when using it in a USB enclosure.
Maybe put it back in the X60 and unhide the hidden partition in the bios then clear any passwords.

Thanks!

I will try that.

#4 Post by **GomJabbar** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:02 pm

If it is not a password problem. Then try the following. Delete all partitions on the disk, then create a primary partition on it and format it. See if Windows will see it then.

cmarti · #5 Post by **cmarti** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:07 pm

I removed all the paswords and also removed set in the bios that the predesktop area can be seen but nothing the drive partition cannot bee seen by windows.

I install it and power on the X60 and XP load and everything if OK.

But why it cannot be seen if i connect it to the USB in thr X60, T40 or my desktop.

pianowizard · #6 Post by **pianowizard** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:11 pm

Can Disk Management see it?

cmarti · #7 Post by **cmarti** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:22 pm

pianowizard wrote:Can Disk Management see it?

NO it can't. IN the device manager it is installed nothing more.

#8 Post by **GomJabbar** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:52 pm

I am not that familiar with the X60 model, but I believe you have a SATA 80GB Toshiba drive. Did you get a SATA external USB enclosure or a PATA external USB enclosure?

johnp126 · #9 Post by **johnp126** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:37 pm

If you have the media slice so you can use a cdrom, get a drive drawer and use it in that, faster than a usb enclosure

pianowizard · #10 Post by **pianowizard** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:42 pm

Okay, this has got to work. Put it in the X60. Boot from a Win98 CD or floppy. FDISK. FORMAT. Take it out and put it in the USB enclosure. Done.

bontistic · #11 Post by **bontistic** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:26 am

One quick question for the OP:

Carlos, have you tried that USB enclosure (for SATA I presume) with another drive to make sure it is not a problem with the enclosure?

Another thought would be clearing the refreshing the MBR or marking the new partition as active?

cmarti · #12 Post by **cmarti** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:20 am

GomJabbar wrote:I am not that familiar with the X60 model, but I believe you have a SATA 80GB Toshiba drive. Did you get a SATA external USB enclosure or a PATA external USB enclosure?

I have two dfferent SATA USB adapters.

The enclosure. and also this cable type adapter

cmarti · #13 Post by **cmarti** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:21 am

johnp126 wrote:If you have the media slice so you can use a cdrom, get a drive drawer and use it in that, faster than a usb enclosure

Nop no media slice.

cmarti · #14 Post by **cmarti** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:24 am

pianowizard wrote:Okay, this has got to work. Put it in the X60. Boot from a Win98 CD or floppy. FDISK. FORMAT. Take it out and put it in the USB enclosure. Done.

I will look for a WIN 98 cd i believe i got one somewhere, i suppose too this should work.

Thanks.

cmarti · #15 Post by **cmarti** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:27 am

bontistic wrote:
Carlos, have you tried that USB enclosure (for SATA I presume) with another drive to make sure it is not a problem with the enclosure?

Yes with the same results.

Another thought would be clearing the refreshing the MBR or marking the new partition as active?

I am not so sure on how to do that, can you provide any advice?

Thanks.

Carlos.

bontistic · #16 Post by **bontistic** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:20 am

cmarti wrote:Yes with the same results.

Same that the newly inserted drive still does not work? If so, maybe the enclosure has a problem, you can try using a different enclosure?

cmarti wrote:I am not so sure on how to do that, can you provide any advice?quote]

If you've a floppy drive, boot from a win98 floppy diskette and run this command:

A:\> FDISK /MBR

cmarti · #17 Post by **cmarti** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:31 am

bontistic wrote: If you've a floppy drive, boot from a win98 floppy diskette and run this command:

A:\> FDISK /MBR

When i get back to home this night i will try that, thanks for the help.

#18 Post by **tomh009** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:39 pm

So can you see the drive at all under Computer Management, in Storage > Disk Management? If so, what partitions do you see on it?

cmarti · #19 Post by **cmarti** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:54 am

tomh009 wrote:So can you see the drive at all under Computer Management, in Storage > Disk Management? If so, what partitions do you see on it?

No partitions can be seen in the disk management.

I haven't found the win 98 cd, a friend will bring me one tomorrow so can try the suggestions others members provided.

pianowizard · #20 Post by **pianowizard** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 3:20 pm

cmarti wrote:I haven't found the win 98 cd, a friend will bring me one tomorrow so can try the suggestions others members provided.

If you don't want to wait for your friend, check out http://www.bootdisk.com/ to see if they have what you need.

cmarti · #21 Post by **cmarti** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 1:35 pm

Well at this point i have tried everything recommended, the drive cannot bee seen by the OS, i wonder if this is something that IBM do to the firmware of the drive, maybe i will call them and ask for a exchange.

smvp6459 · #22 Post by **smvp6459** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 4:56 pm

cmarti wrote:Well at this point i have tried everything recommended, the drive cannot bee seen by the OS, i wonder if this is something that IBM do to the firmware of the drive, maybe i will call them and ask for a exchange.

Does it have/need a jumper for the drive to operate properly?

cmarti · #23 Post by **cmarti** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 9:30 pm

smvp6459 wrote: Does it have/need a jumper for the drive to operate properly?

Noit doesn't need any jumper,it just plug in to the connector, i have use two different types of SATA drives adapters.

#24 Post by **GomJabbar** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 9:45 pm

Maybe it's a driver problem. You might go to Windows Update, choose Custom, and see if it finds any drivers.

cmarti · #25 Post by **cmarti** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 12:07 pm

GomJabbar wrote:Maybe it's a driver problem. You might go to Windows Update, choose Custom, and see if it finds any drivers.

Thanks!

GommJabbar,

I tried that too and also in the five differents computers i have tried the drive i have the same results, Nada!

#26 Post by **GomJabbar** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 12:15 pm

Another thought. Is the external hard drive enclosure powered? Maybe you need to supply external power aside from what you can get via the USB port.

cmarti · #27 Post by **cmarti** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 5:03 pm

GomJabbar wrote:Another thought. Is the external hard drive enclosure powered? Maybe you need to supply external power aside from what you can get via the USB port.

Well i am using this adapter also i have tried with this one that requires external power and yes i tried powered..

Still nothing

#28 Post by **GomJabbar** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 6:25 pm

Something I posted early on in this thread, I don't see that you ever did it. Delete all partitions on the drive, then create a new primary partition and format it. See if Windows will see it then.

You can delete and create partitions with fdisk. I believe fdisk is included on a Windows 98 startup floppy. Another way is to boot a Windows install CD and choose to delete all partitions, then create a partition. Remove the CD and reboot. Hopefully Windows will now see the partition, which you can then format. With either of these methods, be sure you are partitioning and formatting the correct hard drive or you will be in for a nasty surprise.

cmarti · #29 Post by **cmarti** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 7:14 pm

GomJabbar wrote:Something I posted early on in this thread, I don't see that you ever did it. Delete all partitions on the drive, then create a new primary partition and format it. See if Windows will see it then.

I use yesterday a win 98 floppy to delete the partition and formating it but no luck the partitions cannot be seen.

Another way is to boot a Windows install CD and choose to delete all partitions, then create a partition. Remove the CD and reboot. Hopefully Windows will now see the partition

Done it, the instalation cannot see hard drive.

#30 Post by **GomJabbar** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 7:28 pm

Sorry Cmarti, I am out of ideas. The only things I can think of that would cause your problem at this point is a bad USB hard drive enclosure, or a driver problem - either USB, Intel Matrix Storage Manager, or something similar.

That brings up one other idea. If you have Intel Matrix Storage Manager installed, open that in Windows and see if it sees the drive. It's possible you will need the full version from Intel if the version on the X60 does not have the Intel program to open from All Programs.

Select Appropriate Version of Intel® Application Accelerator

Old hardrive used as a external storage.

Old hardrive used as a external storage.

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