Competition for T60 widescreen?
Competition for T60 widescreen?
What does everyone think, is this Dell a pretty good deal that would compete with a T60 widescreen? I know there are others, like HP.
This Dell is a business-grade laptop with pretty good configuration and great warranty. I was just wondering how it stacks up against the T60 15.4.
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.as ... v=&browse=
This Dell is a business-grade laptop with pretty good configuration and great warranty. I was just wondering how it stacks up against the T60 15.4.
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.as ... v=&browse=
X201 Pentium, 4 GB RAM, 320GB 7200RPM
T410 Core i5, 4 GB RAM, 500GB 7200RPM
X230 Core i5, 4 GB RAM, 500GB 7200RPM
T410 Core i5, 4 GB RAM, 500GB 7200RPM
X230 Core i5, 4 GB RAM, 500GB 7200RPM
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pianowizard
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Have you really used the particular model in question? I have seen lots of people who have played briefly with only one or two Dell laptops bash ALL Dell computers in general.steveg47 wrote:IMO...from a quality standpoint...no comparison.
I can't say anything about the D820, but I do own a relatively old 15.4" widescreen laptop made by Dell (Inspiron 6000), which is okay in terms quality. Last week, I played with a newer 15.4" Inspiron (probably the E1505) at a local mall, and it's quality is noticeably better than mine, so I guess Dell laptops have been getting better. The Latitude line is supposed to be superior to the Inspiron line, so I imagine the D820 to be even better.
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While I second pianowizard's statement that Dells have been getting better, (the inspiron e14xx/e15xx series is very decent for a budget limited student), I will definitely say that thinkpads are on a completely different level. I used the D620 for a week very recently, and it is a good laptop for the cost.
But you should notice one point: any non-thinkpad laptop 'ages' very fast - it is just enough to look at an year-old thinkpad and an year-old Dell - the thinkpad is as sturday as the day it was bought, and the dell is beginning to fall apart (even the latitude series).
But you should notice one point: any non-thinkpad laptop 'ages' very fast - it is just enough to look at an year-old thinkpad and an year-old Dell - the thinkpad is as sturday as the day it was bought, and the dell is beginning to fall apart (even the latitude series).
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Past: X31 2673-Y13 | T41 2374-3HU | T22 2647-AEU
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I currently own a Dell 600m, and I agree that they quality is inferior to a ThinkPad.
However, mine is a consumer-grade laptop. As someone else said, the Latitude series is better than the Inspirion. A friend of mine has one at work (my university has a contract with Dell) and it seems pretty sturdy.
That said, there is a reason why I finally decided to switch to a TP. Nonetheless, I thought that the above-referenced computer seemed like a decent deal with the configuration, construction (magnesium alloy) and warranty (3 yrs, including accidental damage protection).
However, mine is a consumer-grade laptop. As someone else said, the Latitude series is better than the Inspirion. A friend of mine has one at work (my university has a contract with Dell) and it seems pretty sturdy.
That said, there is a reason why I finally decided to switch to a TP. Nonetheless, I thought that the above-referenced computer seemed like a decent deal with the configuration, construction (magnesium alloy) and warranty (3 yrs, including accidental damage protection).
X201 Pentium, 4 GB RAM, 320GB 7200RPM
T410 Core i5, 4 GB RAM, 500GB 7200RPM
X230 Core i5, 4 GB RAM, 500GB 7200RPM
T410 Core i5, 4 GB RAM, 500GB 7200RPM
X230 Core i5, 4 GB RAM, 500GB 7200RPM
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pianowizard
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I owned a 600m briefly and it's one of the worst Dell laptops I have ever used. The 700m is much much better, nearly as good as the best Thinkpads.
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I forgot to say that the same configuration on a widescreen TP is $2637.00, with the warranty and everything. So I guess the price difference sounds about the same as the difference with other TPs and their "competition".
X201 Pentium, 4 GB RAM, 320GB 7200RPM
T410 Core i5, 4 GB RAM, 500GB 7200RPM
X230 Core i5, 4 GB RAM, 500GB 7200RPM
T410 Core i5, 4 GB RAM, 500GB 7200RPM
X230 Core i5, 4 GB RAM, 500GB 7200RPM
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pianowizard
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So the price difference is pretty small. In this case, it's a no-brainer: get the T60!
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Dell OptiPlex 9010 SFF (Core i3-3220 / 8GB / 8TB); HP 8300 Elite minitower (Core i7-3770 / 16GB / 9.25TB)
Acer T272HUL; Crossover 404K; Dell 3008WFP, U2715H, U2711, P2416D; Monoprice 10734; QNIX QHD2410R; Seiki Pro SM40UNP
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Yes...Again...No bash...Simple fact....No comparison.pianowizard wrote:Have you really used the particular model in question? I have seen lots of people who have played briefly with only one or two Dell laptops bash ALL Dell computers in general.steveg47 wrote:IMO...from a quality standpoint...no comparison.
I can't say anything about the D820, but I do own a relatively old 15.4" widescreen laptop made by Dell (Inspiron 6000), which is okay in terms quality. Last week, I played with a newer 15.4" Inspiron (probably the E1505) at a local mall, and it's quality is noticeably better than mine, so I guess Dell laptops have been getting better. The Latitude line is supposed to be superior to the Inspiron line, so I imagine the D820 to be even better.
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Again, I believe that the TPs are superior. However, I have a two-year old Dell 600m, a model that is more than four years old, and I still get updates for drivers, BIOS, etc. So, I think that in my very personal experience, this criticism does not apply. Maybe someone else has a different experience.grimmster wrote:I like to look at driver support also. With a TP, you know 3 years from now they will still make updates for your TP, do you think you would get any updates on a 3 year old Dell?
As someone else said before, if the price difference is only about $300, and I could spare them, I would definitely go with the TP.
X201 Pentium, 4 GB RAM, 320GB 7200RPM
T410 Core i5, 4 GB RAM, 500GB 7200RPM
X230 Core i5, 4 GB RAM, 500GB 7200RPM
T410 Core i5, 4 GB RAM, 500GB 7200RPM
X230 Core i5, 4 GB RAM, 500GB 7200RPM
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