VERY blurring FlexView even while moving windows

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Seeb · #1 Post by **Seeb** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 1:24 pm

I just got my new T60 with FlexView and I recognized that it is very blury (I don't know to correct translation in english, but its the
typical effect that you also have when playing fast games on a TFT
screen) even when I'm moving windows the edges blur like hell !

I play Counter-Strike from time to time and its unplayable. I really
get headache when playing more than one single minute.

The following program (no installation required - just start the .exe
and press F3 and follow the instructions) says that my display
has delays of 68ms, 88ms and 98ms.
http://www.benchmarkhq.ru/fclick/fclick.php?fid=302

Can someone with or without FlexView do only this part of the test
and post me the results?

dr_st · #2 Post by **dr_st** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 1:43 pm

Link to the program is missing...

Puppy · #3 Post by **Puppy** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 1:52 pm

Does it change when it is connected to AC power comparing to running on battery ?

Seeb · #4 Post by **Seeb** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 1:57 pm

Whoups, heres the link

http://www.prad.de/download/pixperan.zip :)

@Puppy
No, it doesn't change

pinesol · #5 Post by **pinesol** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 2:58 pm

Seeb wrote:Whoups, heres the link

http://www.prad.de/download/pixperan.zip

@Puppy
No, it doesn't change

I am sorry I don't understand German, so I am not able to perform the test. Anyhow, I don't play any gmae so I have not esperienced any problem with the Flexview screen.

Before I bought it, I did some research and found out that the Flexview was not for playing games. Since I don't, I bought it.

dr_st · #6 Post by **dr_st** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 3:42 pm

I played DOOM3 and GTA games on my Flexview with no problems. Sometimes I'd get headaches, but that's if I was already tired.

Here's the link to the english version of the program:

http://www.benchmarkhq.ru/fclick/fclick.php?fid=302

Seeb · #7 Post by **Seeb** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 4:18 pm

?? Strange..

Could you paste me your ms results?

Thanks for the link

pinesol · #8 Post by **pinesol** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 4:44 pm

I don't know what it means. But here it is.

Graphics mode: 1280x1024 @ 32 bpp
Frame rate: 59.7 Hz
Gamma factor: -

Flag test: -
Chase test: 100(166.7ms), 100(166.7ms), 100(166.7ms)
Readability: -
Game: -
streaky graphic: -

Seeb · #9 Post by **Seeb** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 5:16 pm

166ms everytime? I think you diddnt understand what to do :D
thanks anyways :]

any more results?

snessiram · #10 Post by **snessiram** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 6:22 pm

I don't know if this is what you mean, but some time back, I don't know why, moving windows etc. went really slow, I could see the window "redrawed" when moving, scrolling,...
I fixed the problem by reinstalling the ATI drivers (C:\IBMTOOLS\DRIVERS\VIDEO if I'm right).

seeplus · #11 Post by **seeplus** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 6:49 pm

Seeb; What video card does your thinkpad have? Intel or ATI?

If it's the intel integrated graphics, that could be part of the reason for such poor performance.

The Flexview displays' advantage is the technology behing them; S-IPS, which is inherently a bit slower than standard TFT displays at changing colors/white/black, though the newer s-ips panels are much faster than the older IPS displays.

Seeb · #12 Post by **Seeb** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 7:56 pm

@snessiram
No, I don't think that this is the same.

@seeplus
I have the X1300 and my T60 came last week!
So it should have a newer IPS panel, shouldn't it ?

dr_st · #13 Post by **dr_st** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:34 am

Your IPS panel might be a bit newer than the one installed in the T42/T43s, but I doubt its specs have changed much. It's still the LG/Philips LP150E05, perhaps a newer revision.

Anyways, the results I got were 50ms, 33ms and 39ms on my T42 Flexview, and 33ms, 22ms and 28ms on the X32. Assuming the different resolutions are not accountable, the Flexview definitely smudges a bit more.

Seeb · #14 Post by **Seeb** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:39 pm

Yes, "a bit" :-o

Thanks to all helpers.

m372 · #15 Post by **m372** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 10:58 am

Seeb wrote:my display
has delays of 68ms, 88ms and 98ms.
http://www.benchmarkhq.ru/fclick/fclick.php?fid=302

Can someone with or without FlexView do only this part of the test
and post me the results?

The result is correct. This is the mother nature of Flexview panel.
It's not used to look the video, just for still pictures.

Note IBM/Lenovo never said its laptop with Flexview panel is used for entertainment - means watching movie - it's only a Workstation.

dr_st · #16 Post by **dr_st** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 11:29 am

m372 wrote:Note IBM/Lenovo never said its laptop with Flexview panel is used for entertainment - means watching movie - it's only a Workstation.

Movies look just fine on Flexview. Have been doing it a lot. The wide viewing angle really makes a difference, when you want to watch a movie from the couch.

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