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Failed cloning attempt

#1 Post by winslow » Sun Jan 28, 2007 6:20 am

trying to replace my existing 40 GB HD with an 80 GB on my T23 2647. Bought a new hitachi HTS541280H9AT00 drive. I loaded the new drive in the ultrabay HD adapter and cloned the drive with Acronis true image. When I replaced the old drive with the new one windows will not load. It does the system startup, test ram ect. But then there is just a constant blinking line in the upper left corner of the screen and windows doesn't load. What could be the problem?

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#2 Post by RealBlackStuff » Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:52 am

Did you set the master/slave jumper correctly?
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#3 Post by ronbo613 » Sun Jan 28, 2007 12:01 pm

Do you have both drives in the computer at the same time?
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#4 Post by winslow » Sun Jan 28, 2007 12:21 pm

the new drive is set as master and it was the only drive in the computer.

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#5 Post by alagregg » Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:07 pm

well none of the hard disks should requre any jumpers. As both hard disk and ultrabay are on seperate IDE lines and designed to take masters.

so i am assuming you have no jumpers on any of the drives.

you could try seeing if you can install windows normally on the hard disk, which would test whether it is a problem with the hard disk (or the bios booting from it), or whether the clone didn't work.

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#6 Post by ronbo613 » Sun Jan 28, 2007 6:53 pm

You could try the cloning attempt using the Acronis Restore Disc(make one with your True Image software), sometimes that works better.
Another member here was having the same trouble, you might want to read this.
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#7 Post by winslow » Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:35 pm

Decided to use the disk as a data disk in the HDD adapter. I have another drive I can use to clone with later. Amazing how something proffesed to be so simple becomes so complicated. Now I have an entirely different problem, the disk management utility is unable to format the drive. It goes all the way through the process then initializes an unknown error and stops, leaving me with an unusable drive. Anyone have any ideas or experience with this problem? it is a hitachi 80 GB drive

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is it worth the trouble?

#8 Post by winslow » Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:28 am

beginning to wonder if I would be better off purchasing a copy of windows since I don't have a CD (I hate the fact that they arn't shipped with the computer anymore.)

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#9 Post by alagregg » Mon Jan 29, 2007 5:11 am

winslow wrote:Decided to use the disk as a data disk in the HDD adapter. I have another drive I can use to clone with later. Amazing how something proffesed to be so simple becomes so complicated. Now I have an entirely different problem, the disk management utility is unable to format the drive. It goes all the way through the process then initializes an unknown error and stops, leaving me with an unusable drive. Anyone have any ideas or experience with this problem? it is a hitachi 80 GB drive
possibly a problem with your hard disk.

what are you using to format the drive ?

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#10 Post by alagregg » Mon Jan 29, 2007 5:26 am

also on the windows disc issue, i have been told before that if a machine has a windows XP Certitifcate stuck on it you are ok to lend a CD off someone and use your code from the certifiacte in the install process.

I am not 100% sure if it is legal (please remove this post if it is not), but if your T23 has a genuine certificate on it i can't see why it wouldn't be.

If you have a legal licence for windows it seems very unfair to have to fork out again just because you don't have the disk.

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#11 Post by dsigma6 » Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:22 am

Did you try formatting the drive with PC Doctor? I've seen a couple machines where after cloning, the blinking cursor remained for a few minutes, then finally restarted successfully.
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#12 Post by winslow » Mon Jan 29, 2007 9:56 am

alagregg wrote:
winslow wrote:Decided to use the disk as a data disk in the HDD adapter. I have another drive I can use to clone with later. Amazing how something proffesed to be so simple becomes so complicated. Now I have an entirely different problem, the disk management utility is unable to format the drive. It goes all the way through the process then initializes an unknown error and stops, leaving me with an unusable drive. Anyone have any ideas or experience with this problem? it is a hitachi 80 GB drive
possibly a problem with your hard disk.

what are you using to format the drive ?
I was using the utility in disk management. I don't think its the hard drive, I previously bought a seagate 100GB drive and had the same problem. I returned that one because I thought it was a compatability issue. Now I bought 2 new hitachi 80 GB drives and planned on using one for the system and the other for data. For some reason the formatting utility on my computer doesn't format new drives.
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#13 Post by ambientscape » Mon Jan 29, 2007 11:25 am

Which Acronis version is the best and user friendly to use?? I saw many version of it.
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#14 Post by ronbo613 » Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:58 pm

Using a Restore Disc made with Acronis 9, I've had no problems cloning the Thinkpad drive to and external drive and back or to another 2.5" laptop drive using this thing.
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#15 Post by AbsoluteRaleigh » Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:34 am

Test the new drive w/ Drive Fitness Test:
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/download.htm#DFT

If it is good, the clone is failing. The blinking cursor is very common. Could be a setting or just the software. I'm still using Ghost 7 on a floppy to clone T23s. A lot of T23s have a hiden partition on them for reloading the factory image which throws many cloning utilities off. If that is causing it, you know what to look for- that can be disabled or worked around..
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#16 Post by winslow » Tue Jan 30, 2007 1:28 am

I reloaded windows xp on the new disk with a set of recovery disks that a member of this forum generously helped me with. In the long run I think I am better off this way as I no longer Have to deal with the clutter that 3 years of usage has accumulated on the original. A lot of work getting everything up and running the way I want but I actually get some satisfaction by doing it this way.
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#17 Post by hiero » Tue Feb 06, 2007 4:36 pm

I too cloned my T23 XP PRO setup a while back using Paragon Exact image 7 that came with a magazine cover disk.

I reinstated it on the T23 a few months back and it worked great connected to a USB external DVD burner. It took nearly 3 hours mind you for only a 4.5Gb image...!

If not too late try and grab a copy of that and see what happens...

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