My T23 is on the way to the big mud hole.

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My T23 is on the way to the big mud hole.

#1 Post by iMav » Fri Feb 09, 2007 2:23 pm

My T23 and the extra ram I purchased (2x512MB) arrived at my house. I had my wife unbox and QA the system. She said it looks great, screen is in good shape, and cosmetically it is very good. She has boxed it up and it is now on its way over here to southern Iraq.

I'll let you know when I receive it and takes some pics as well.

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Re: My T23 is on the way to the big mud hole.

#2 Post by Gerbil » Fri Feb 09, 2007 5:29 pm

Who are you talking to?

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#3 Post by pianowizard » Fri Feb 09, 2007 5:30 pm

Gerbil wrote:Who are you talking to?
Everyone on the forum, including you.
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#4 Post by joester » Fri Feb 09, 2007 11:02 pm

Obviously, some hadn't seen the other posts that preceeded this one.
Imav, I hope it arrives in great shape, and Thank You!

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#5 Post by iMav » Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:01 am

I figured the post was more than capable of standing on its own. It communicates the fact that I have purchased a T23 and extra ram, that it was shipped to my home, and that my wife is shipping it to me in Iraq. I guess expressing excitement over the anticipated receipt of a new (to me) Thinkpad is reserved for those with detailed histories well documented and known by all on this forum?? :)

BTW, some more info on my purchase can be found in the following threads:

Here, here, and especially here.

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#6 Post by tfflivemb2 » Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:08 am

I think that Gerbil misinterpreted as I did initially. The post looks like a PM that was posted as a thread, instead as a PM.

Some people to hit the wrong buttons, myself included....though normally "Quote" instead of "Edit".

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#7 Post by pianowizard » Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:25 am

Even though I've owned about 40 laptops, acquisition of a new laptop is still a thrilling experience, especially when it's very different from what I've used before, e.g my first widescreen (Dell Inspiron 700m), my first sub-3lb notebook (TP240), and my first laptop with WUXGA res (Dell Inspiron 6000).
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#8 Post by tfflivemb2 » Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:33 am

pianowizard wrote:Even though I've owned about 40 laptops, acquisition of a new laptop is still a thrilling experience, especially when it's very different from what I've used before, e.g my first widescreen (Dell Inspiron 700m), my first sub-3lb notebook (TP240), and my first laptop with WUXGA res (Dell Inspiron 6000).
I couldn't agree more....and I couldn't even tell you how many I have owned.

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#9 Post by iMav » Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:12 am

pianowizard wrote:Even though I've owned about 40 laptops, acquisition of a new laptop is still a thrilling experience, especially when it's very different from what I've used before, e.g my first widescreen (Dell Inspiron 700m), my first sub-3lb notebook (TP240), and my first laptop with WUXGA res (Dell Inspiron 6000).
My first WUXGA was a Dell Inspiron 8600. AFAIC, WUXGA (and UXGA for non-widescreen) is the perfect resolution for a laptop. This has been my biggest disappointment with the Apple laptops. If they don't address this with higher-density screens in the next year or so, I will be seriously considering a Thinkpad to replace my current MacBook.

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#10 Post by rkawakami » Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:43 am

iMav wrote:If they don't address this with higher-density screens in the next year or so, I will be seriously considering a Thinkpad to replace my current MacBook.
Heretic! Stone the Apple infidel! :)

I shouldn't talk... I have a 17" iMac but it's sitting on a table idle at the moment. About the only use it sees is for hooking up my daugther's iPod nano. One of these days I'll get around to putting it to some good use, like video editing.

Hope your T23 gets to you in one piece.

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Hmm, 40 huh? I'd better start catching up; I only count about 26 (I'm not including dead shells).
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#11 Post by iMav » Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:36 am

rkawakami wrote:Heretic! Stone the Apple infidel! :)
My computer background is pretty much exclusively UNIX. I had absolutely ZERO interest in the Mac world until OS X came out. Then it became quite attractive to me. I few years ago, I switched the entire family over from Linux workstations to Mac's. This was mainly driven by the kids who were tired of having to settle for OSS or anything I could happen to get working under Wine. :)

I always try to keep at least one Mac system around for me (currrently the MacBook). But I am pretty sure my next new (or new-ish) laptop will be a thinkpad. If I was to buy today (to replace me MacBook), I would seriously consider a T43 with UXGA...there are tons of new still sealed from the factory deals on Ebay (and other places). That's gotta be the best bang-for-the-buck right now.
rkawakami wrote:Hmm, 40 huh? I'd better start catching up; I only count about 26 (I'm not including dead shells).
Is that currently owned and functional systems? That's just sick! :)

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#12 Post by rkawakami » Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:19 am

iMav wrote:My computer background is pretty much exclusively UNIX. I had absolutely ZERO interest in the Mac world until OS X came out.
I haven't played around with the iMac that much. I use Solaris 8 at work and I have a Sun Ultra 5 online at home (with an Ultra 10 waiting to take its place). Used exclusively by telneting in (the Sun is headless but I do have a KVM when absolutely needed), I edit my programs and compile them with gcc (I'm a test engineer and the testers we use are hooked up to Suns). It would be interesting to see what I could do "under the covers" on the Mac.
iMav wrote:Is that currently owned and functional systems? That's just sick! :)
If I've counted right, there's 21 or 22 fully functional systems (2 600Es, 6 600Xs and the remaining ones are T23s), with the remaining 4 or 5 that still have some "issues". Such as having to "torque" the front left corner in order to power up, dead backlights in a couple of SXGA+ panels and a stubborn 600E which takes about 5 minutes for the backlight to turn on. That one's actually my first Thinkpad. I can't seem to get rid of them :) ! I have sold three systems and have been planning to off some others. I'm addicted to eBay and am a sucker for T23s with built-in wireless and/or SXGA+ displays. So I snipe systems that have problems and spend my time fixing them with the goal of eventually selling them. Anyway, that's what I keep telling the wife :) ! The daughter still at home uses a 600X, the daughter down in LA has two T23s (main and backup), there's a couple here at home for use by my daughter's friends when they come over (600X and T23), I normally use a favorite T23 (2647-HNU) and the rest are in hibernation.
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#13 Post by iMav » Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:32 am

rkawakami wrote:I haven't played around with the iMac that much. I use Solaris 8 at work and I have a Sun Ultra 5 online at home (with an Ultra 10 waiting to take its place). Used exclusively by telneting in (the Sun is headless but I do have a KVM when absolutely needed), I edit my programs and compile them with gcc (I'm a test engineer and the testers we use are hooked up to Suns). It would be interesting to see what I could do "under the covers" on the Mac.
I've got an Ultra5 at home that I got new in 2000. Definitely getting long in the tooth now...but I can't bare to get rid of it. :) I spent several years as a UNIX admin; primarily Solaris, but also HP-UX, UNICOS, AIX, and Linux. Now days I primarily work in the IT security arena.

A few years ago, I threw away a ton of computer equipment that I had accumulated. We were getting ready to sell the house and buy another and I just got tired of all the clutter. Of course, now I have a much larger home, more storage space, and more money. So maybe I'll revert back. :)

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#14 Post by rkawakami » Sat Feb 10, 2007 5:03 am

iMav wrote:I've got an Ultra5 at home that I got new in 2000.
I hope you didn't spend too much for it. Mine came by way of a "we sell your stuff" seller on eBay. U5 with 512MB of memory, dual 60GB hard drives and an external CD-RW burner. This setup was used by a guy in Berkeley to run some sort of web business (some of his files were still on the drive; pictures, videos, web server logs, nothing to scandalous or revealing :roll: ). It came to $209 shipped. This was June 2004.

A couple of months ago we needed to replace a U5 at work. We found one on craigslist a few miles away. Almost brand new, in great shape. Had 512MB in it, a 360Mhz processor and a small disk drive. $50.

That's not the bad part... Brought it to work. Unhooked the old system. Hooked up the new one. Threw the power switch. "POP". WTF??!?! 5 seconds later I remembered that the tester's workstation area is wired for 220VAC. The power supply on the Sun was set at 110VAC (naturally). Went out and found another one for $65 (which I paid for out of my pocket).

Now there's BIG Dymo labels all around the power strip and on the back side of the desk, "CAUTION 220V".
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#15 Post by iMav » Sat Feb 10, 2007 5:21 am

rkawakami wrote:I hope you didn't spend too much for it.
I paid exactly $0 for it. Employer got it for me and then by the time I left the company, it wasn't worth it to them to take it back (EOL and all)...so it became a cheap "going away" gift. :)

They can definitely be had for next to nothing now days.

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#16 Post by pianowizard » Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:06 am

rkawakami wrote:@pianowizard:
Hmm, 40 huh? I'd better start catching up; I only count about 26 (I'm not including dead shells).
Look at my signature: I only have three laptops right now, because I sold the other 37 that I have owned, whereas you currently own 26! You have already beat me big time!
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#17 Post by tfflivemb2 » Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:57 am

Yeah Ray, I believe that PianoWizard was indicating the number of laptops owned over his lifetime.

My current "working" Thinkpad inventory, as seen in this pic, is at 19, plus the PDA. I have numerous shells and parts lying around, as well as several non-Thinkpads....probably 8. As for laptops over a lifetime....I would even really be able to guess, because I bought so many at one point for resale, but maybe as far as the ones that I bought with the intentions of keeping....75-100....but most of them ended up being sold to someone that was in a hurry to get one.

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#18 Post by dorronto » Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:25 pm

Well, well, well.................................

I'm finally learning who is sniping my Ebay auctions right in front of my eyes! :)

only kidding.....................I watch Ebay-way-too-much also!

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#19 Post by iMav » Sat Feb 17, 2007 7:18 am

T23 is finally in my possession. Will be checking it out tonight.

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#20 Post by tfflivemb2 » Sat Feb 17, 2007 7:52 am

Congrats...I am sure that you will like it...

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#21 Post by Purcy » Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:49 am

iMav wrote:T23 is finally in my possession. Will be checking it out tonight.
I hope you get many good hours out of your new purchase, and if you ever need any more equipment, check out the great Market Place section of this forum, or just contact "Ray's Computer-rama" for a possible buy - you know he has a few extra kicking around :lol:
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#22 Post by pianowizard » Sat Feb 17, 2007 2:26 pm

iMav wrote:T23 is finally in my possession. Will be checking it out tonight.
Please let us know how you like it!
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#23 Post by iMav » Sun Feb 18, 2007 6:04 am

T23 has been unboxed and it in full use. Fresh install of Ubuntu 6.10 and all is fine. The laptop is in near-new shape. Some minor wear on the keys and I could use a new trackpoint.

Everything seems to work right out of the gate with the Ubuntu install. Very impressed. Power management, keyboard volume buttons, wireless (pcmcia card), etc.

Upgraded to 1GB right away...didn't even power it up with the 256MB, so don't know how much of a diff it made. I have a 256MB module available...although I'll see if someone local can use it as well. (PM me if you are desperate for one). :)

Very happy so far.

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#24 Post by iMav » Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:36 am

The battery is pretty much worthless...but that's about the only real flaw I've noticed so far.

And the keyboard...It's almost as good as the one on my MacBook. <duck> :)

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#25 Post by Purcy » Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:37 am

iMav wrote: and I could use a new trackpoint.
Do you mean the little red trackpoint cap? I just got a pack of 2 on ebay and I will probably never need the other one - brand new cat's tongue original red trackpoint cap. If you want it - PM me your address and I'll get it out to you.
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