Might have solved heat problems

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tyanlion · #1 Post by **tyanlion** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:02 pm

Hi,

In my attempt to try to solve the lid closing and blinking problem ( which i still haven't solved and would be really grateful if someone helped me solve it), i might have solved the heat problem. "MIGHT" being keyword here. I was installing some device drivers and after i installed the thinkpad power management driver (v 1.41) the heat of the right hand side has now not been a problem. I don't know why lenovo does not automatically download this in their updater but anyway it solved the problem. can anyone else verify this? I don't have any graphs or any definitive evidence, just that the right hand side ain't burning my right hand now and i have the x60s plugged in and on for 7 hrs now (with intel card not atheros).

smvp6459 · #2 Post by **smvp6459** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:53 pm

Do you mean 1.14?

shienfoo · #3 Post by **shienfoo** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:29 pm

Downloaded the 1.14 power management. When plugged into A/C and set on High Performance, the right palm rest is still blistering hot.

Shien

tyanlion · #4 Post by **tyanlion** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:32 am

no i mean 1.41 i downloaded it from the lenovo site

#5 Post by **GomJabbar** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:41 am

ThinkPad Power Management driver for Windows Vista, XP, 2000, Me, 98SE - ThinkPad

I do not have an X60. I just post the above for anyone looking for the ThinkPad Power Management driver, version 1.41, release date 01/22/2007.

jck8r · #6 Post by **jck8r** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:01 pm

What exactly is the difference between this software and the "Power Manager for Windows Vista - ThinkPad " version 2.01 released the exact same day? Can anyone clarify?

Thanks!

-James

#7 Post by **GomJabbar** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:17 pm

jck8r wrote:What exactly is the difference between this software and the "Power Manager for Windows Vista - ThinkPad " version 2.01 released the exact same day? Can anyone clarify?

Power Manager is for controlling operation whether on battery or AC power. It is basically a replacement for Battery MaxiMiser. Windows Power Options provide some of the same features, but Power Manager offers more. You can set up power schemes that control LCD brightness, CPU speed, and CD drive speed. You can check battery status and recondition the battery. I am speaking in general terms here. I am not sure exactly if all of these features are supported in Vista.

OTOH, the Power Management driver is basically what controls the Suspend and Hibernate features of the ThinkPad (ACPI Power Management).

jck8r · #8 Post by **jck8r** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:27 pm

Cool, so basically I should stop asking questions and understand that installing both of these drivers is only a good thing as they each have their own function. Thanks!

@RT · #9 Post by **@RT** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 11:49 am

i have tried the 1.41 but nothing changes. still burning my palm

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tyanlion, did you forget turn on the WI-FI ??

tyanlion · #10 Post by **tyanlion** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:26 pm

Hmm, something interesting happened to my Thinkvantage access connection. when i installed some of the drivers it wasn't able use the "find wireless network" button. In the alt menu it was blanked out as an option. I reinstalled thinkvantage access connections and now the heat is back. hmmmm interesting is the heat when the ac is on attributed to the access connection's power mode? I'll uninstall my thinkvantage access to see what happens

miri · #11 Post by **miri** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:08 am

Hi,

I just bought a X60s (see my sig) and the palm rest is normal, not too hot and un-supportable. I used the WLAN all the day on with AC connected and I didn't found any hot on the right palm rest.

Maybe it's a new production from Lenovo and they have found a way to resolve that.

Regards

@RT · #12 Post by **@RT** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:05 am

I think that I have found another solution. After installing Power Management driver 1.41 and nothing changes.

So, I try to lower the transmit power of intel WIFI card to the lowest and found that it helps a lot.

My APS temp before is around 54-55 C. Now it is around 47-48 C when AC power plugged in.

tyanlion · #13 Post by **tyanlion** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:41 am

Hmm my one is also a new lap top as well. Coincidence?

miri · #14 Post by **miri** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:14 pm

hmm, maybe 1.41 was the solution...and I had that installed by default...this is why i don't have it very hot

gunston · #15 Post by **gunston** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:23 am

you sure 1.41 is working to reduce the power dissipation from WireLess card?
my version is 1.33. yet, my APS remained around ~44degC.
Transmission Power is 25.1mW.
maybe the culprit is that i left the Wifi connected without doing intensive downloading. Only email checking, normal web browsing and MSN stuffs.

should i give a try to 1.41???

berlin · #16 Post by **berlin** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:19 pm

wow! just got my x60s today and the right palm area is super hot! i'm going to take this apart and drill holes at the bottom. lol

berlin · #17 Post by **berlin** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:53 pm

Update: I upgraded to 1.41

I turned off my Wireless WAN the heat went away.

the following may help:

Power Management: 1 notch from lowest
Roaming Aggressiveness: same as above
Transmit Power: 50%
Wireless Mode: a, g

ylim · #18 Post by **ylim** » Tue May 01, 2007 12:21 am

This is cool. Going to try it tonight.

jgsx · #19 Post by **jgsx** » Tue May 01, 2007 8:18 am

Lenovo just released a new version of the palm rest plastic case piece. I got it on Friday (my old one cracked). The metal shielding underneath the palm area is a different material than my old version, and looks pretty beefed up. I haven't noticed a hot palm rest yet, but I have at least felt warmth from the area yet. It is too early to say that it solves the issue, but so far, not hot palm.

gunston · #20 Post by **gunston** » Tue May 01, 2007 8:23 am

jgsx wrote:Lenovo just released a new version of the palm rest plastic case piece. I got it on Friday (my old one cracked). The metal shielding underneath the palm area is a different material than my old version, and looks pretty beefed up. I haven't noticed a hot palm rest yet, but I have at least felt warmth from the area yet. It is too early to say that it solves the issue, but so far, not hot palm.

can you take a picture of it?

jgsx · #21 Post by **jgsx** » Tue May 01, 2007 8:29 am

Ugh, I already installed it. I knew I should have snapped a pic. Maybe I'll take it apart this weekend.

smvp6459 · #22 Post by **smvp6459** » Tue May 01, 2007 8:40 am

jgsx wrote:Ugh, I already installed it. I knew I should have snapped a pic. Maybe I'll take it apart this weekend.

Do you have a part number for the piece?

jgsx · #23 Post by **jgsx** » Tue May 01, 2007 8:53 am

39T7479 that's for the one with a finger print reader hold. I think it is like $41

berlin · #24 Post by **berlin** » Tue May 01, 2007 10:19 am

I might have to get a new one too. I removed the verizon card but the heat is still pretty bad.

jgsx wrote:39T7479 that's for the one with a finger print reader hold. I think it is like $41

Where did you buy it? $95 dollars here.

http://www.thinkpadmedic.com/thinkpad_p ... T7479.html

jgsx · #25 Post by **jgsx** » Tue May 01, 2007 2:30 pm

berlin wrote:I might have to get a new one too. I removed the verizon card but the heat is still pretty bad.

jgsx wrote:39T7479 that's for the one with a finger print reader hold. I think it is like $41
Where did you buy it? $95 dollars here.

http://www.thinkpadmedic.com/thinkpad_p ... T7479.html

Directly from IBM/Lenovo. ALL of those thinkpad repair places are scams. All that they do is order the same part directly from IBM and charge double or more of the retail price.

berlin · #26 Post by **berlin** » Tue May 01, 2007 7:22 pm

Thanks!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v686/ ... sabe00.jpg

I removed the Verizon card. I also bent the copper plate to touch the bottom of the keyboard to help dissipate heat and removed the LAN sticker. but it didn't do much. Poorly designed, I say, and cheap materials compared to the older Thinkpads. I guess I'll have to shell out dough for the new cover.

jgsx · #27 Post by **jgsx** » Tue May 01, 2007 9:03 pm

Ok, the palm rest still gets hot with this new version. It might not be as bad as the previous one, but it is still hot.

gunston · #28 Post by **gunston** » Tue May 01, 2007 9:12 pm

jgsx wrote:Ok, the palm rest still gets hot with this new version. It might not be as bad as the previous one, but it is still hot.

when using the Wifi, it really can't help to reduce the heat. unless, you use cable lan that would solve the heat at right palm rest.

berlin · #29 Post by **berlin** » Tue May 01, 2007 9:29 pm

Another solution would be to remove the Wireless card and go pcmcia. I wonder if a short one is available so it doesn't stick out. I'll use the buil-in antenna instead.

This is pathetic. LOL Anyway, the heatsink helps but I just ordered coolermaster ramsinks from ebay:

http://www.modernopc.com/store/images/crc-u01.jpg

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0108445551

gunston · #30 Post by **gunston** » Tue May 01, 2007 9:31 pm

berlin wrote:This is pathetic. LOL Anyway, the heatsink helps but I just ordered coolermaster ramsinks from ebay:

http://www.modernopc.com/store/images/crc-u01.jpg

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0108445551

and then, you want to put the ramsink underneath your keyboard?

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