IBM ThinkPad T42 (2373CYU) - My firsthand impressions...

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IBM ThinkPad T42 (2373CYU) - My firsthand impressions...

#1 Post by Conmee » Fri May 21, 2004 4:43 pm

Ok folks,

Here's a moderately lengthy review of my new T42 (2373CYU) that I just received today... I tried to take closeup shots with this crappy HP Photosmart digital camera, but the pics are grainy and quite useless. If I can get the camera to take a decent picture, I'll see about posting them or having Bill make them available. :)

Order Date: 05-14-2004, 11:24am
Delivery Date: 05-21-2004, 11:00am (Est. date was June 16th!)

Summary of features: 1.8GHz, 1GB, 80GB 5400rpm HDD, 15" SXGA+ Flexview, MR9600 w/64MB, IBM a/b/g, Gigabit, Bluetooth, DVD-R/RW


Aesthetics
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The system is very solidly built. There is only one battery latch, instead of two, as on the T40/T41, but the battery (6-cell) stays in there. Not the kind of wiggle some of the T Series batteries have shown in the past. Of course, I have a Sony battery, which tend to fit tighter than the Sanyo batteries.

The left-side palmrest is very snug, and doesn't make any noise/squeaking that my T40p did when it would come into contact with the PC Card housing. Also, there isn't any flimsiness of the keyboard. On my T40p, the right side needed a business card underneath it to keep the PgUp/PgDn and arrow keys from flexing or giving way a bit. The keyboard is solid and secure. I removed the keyboard and it was a very tight fit, with little to no room to move around, unlike my T40p in which the keyboard could move an 1/8th to 1/4 inch when the screws were removed. Needed a screwdriver to lightly pry the keyboard out. Once out, the internals, with the exception of the wireless antenna cable paths (a bit different) remain identical to the T40p/T41p. There is an additional cushion above the fan to firm up the keyboard.

The keyboard itself has the same exact feel as the T41p. The only difference is that the plastic around the Access IBM and volume buttons is now matte instead of glossy plastic. This eliminates the glare sometimes associated with the ThinkLight reflecting off the glossy plastic in low-light situations.

There is more room on each side of the keyboard, and about 3/4" more room for the palmrest area v. the T40/T41. It 'seems' like I'm using a roomier keyboard, but the keyboard itself is identical, except for the matte plastic grille around the buttons I just mentioned.

As far as heat goes, the keyboard remains room temperature throughout, and the right palmrest has a similar heat characteristic to that of the T40p/T41p. The 80GB 5400rpm drive actually doesn't generate as much heat, and it's definitely quieter than my 60GB 7200rpm drive. Even under a load, burning DVDs, the drives operate at a comfortable thermal level.

The 15" SXGA+ Flexview screen is PERFECT (well, mine has ONE dead GREEN pixel, but in theory....lol). For my money, this is the perfect size/resolution combination. I compared my screen with a UXGA resolution screen, and it is much easier on the eyes, and still gives you a good amount of screen real-estate. The UXGA is beautiful, but I feel that IBM has struck a nice balance with the 15" SXGA+ screen. Side by side with a T41, and you can see a noticeable increase in readability between the 15" and 14" SXGA+. And the contrast, brightness, color saturation on the Flexview is well worth the money. The metal LCD hinges are also bigger (or more precisely, they are both the same size now, whereas on the T41, one was bigger than the other... on the T42 with 15" Flexview, they are both bigger).

Also, the ThinkLight is once again WHITE (for all those folks with R50p's and AMBER ThinkLights)...

FAN..... The fan is the same LONG FAN used in the T41p. It seems to make SLIGHTLY more sound when on, but I think that's because the fan vent is slightly bigger than those on the T41p. Again, it may not be ANY different, but I think it's a tad louder. Also, the fan runs near continuously when the CPU is on full power. However, the bottom of the unit seems to stay cooler than my T40p, so who knows. But the GOOD NEWS is that there is NO ANNOYING HUM, FLUCTUATION, 5 SECOND INTERMITTENT HICCUP or any of that nonesense I encountered with my T40p. Even with the fan on at full speed, I can absolutely live with it, and it doesn't bother me. So I'm definitely happy I don't have to do surgery on my new machine because of a noisy fan. :)

Finally, the side ports, the Ultrabay Slim, the battery, the memory expansion slot, and the overall construction are what we all come to expect from the T Series line. No ABS plastic cover, this is the T41p's big brother with the same materials and quality construction. In fact, as I've said about the solid construction, it actually feels stronger than the T40/T41.

If there are any aspects of the build that I've missed, ask me a question, and I'll try to follow up in this thread.


Configuration
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The system comes configured slightly different from previous systems. The biggest change is the IBM Rescue and Recovery with Rapid Restore 4.0. When you press the Access IBM button at startup, you now get the IBM R&Rw/RR main screen, which includes many of the same features the previous PreDesktop area included. But now you have the Opera Browser available with network connectivity (very cool), and a number of diagnostics and backup/recovery options. And FINALLY... there are utilities included that allow you to BACKUP the factory software and configuration. It makes 7 discs that allow you to completely restore factory contents from CD. It also allows you to make CD backups of your R&R data backups for archive purposes. Very nice to see IBM addressed these two issues. They were also probably tired of all of us calling up asking for the restore CDs.

The downside to IBM R&R is that it takes hard drive space. In addition to the 3.5GB of hidden HPA (which is where the PreDesktop area resides, and remains hidden from the OS), there's another 4.3GB service partition viewable from WinXP Manage applet wich is labeled IBM_SERVICE. It's a FAT32 partition that can't be modified or tinkered with (can't even assign it a drive letter) from within WinXP (haven't tried Partition Magic on it yet). Unlike the HPA, this service partition is used to store Rapid Restore backups, etc. Not sure how this will affect the system if you unistall or delete RR and the partition. It seems that the system requires it to be there given that the Access IBM button boots right into RR. I'll tinker with it over the weekend. But with the restore disks readily made, I may just remove all the hidden parition info and service partition info, and recapture 8-9GB of space. IBM RR lets you backup to CD, so it's not necessary, I would think, to have the service partition present.

Some additional (limited feature-set) DVD authoring software WinDVD Creator and a label maker from Sonic are included, as well as Adobe Reader 6. Other than that, the software is the same stack as what IBM has been including in the T Series since the T40.

Oh, almost forgot. I think most of us have broadband, but there's a Digital Line Detect applet in the Start Group, as well as a new NetWaiting application. Evidently, this software allows you to put your analog dialup line on hold while you answer voice calls, etc. Not sure how useful it is to most of us, but it's there.

All the latest BIOS, Embedded Controller, and ThinkVantage technology drivers and updates are present, so the system is ready to go.


Performance
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I ran some video and system benchmarks outlined below. All in all, this is a great desktop replacement. On average, synthetic benchmarks show that this system is roughly equivalent to a 2.4 ~ 2.6GHz P4 depending on the task. Again, synthetic and subjective. But it is very snappy and noticeably faster than the T40p.

The only 'downside' to Flexview that I can see is the refresh rate/response time. On some 3D and game benchmarks, ghosting during high action, detailed scenes was evident. Not overwhelming, not overly distracting... but a hard-core gamer MAY BE one constituent who considers the non-Flexview if gaming on the notebook LCD is a common/often practice. For most gamers, regardless of LCD, they are hooking into a hi-res CRT, so this isn't an issue for most non-gamers. But I thought I'd mention it up front. I could tell a definite increase in ghosting v. my T40p. The good news is that the MR9600 memory is clocked higher than the same memory on the T42p with FireGL (at least it was clocked higher than the demo T42p I saw). So the 3DMark scores I achieved on my T42 v. my old T40p v. the T42p demo I played with are modestly higher v. the latter, and significantly higher than what the T40p posted. End result, the MR9600 is WAY BETTER for gaming and 3D, hands down, no contest. Not to mention, the DirectX 9.0b support is a bonus (required for gamers).

So then, here are the scores from 3DMark2001se, 3DMark 2003, SiSoft Sandra 2004. I'll put the scores I achieved with my T40p (1.6GHz, 1GB PC2100, FireGL 9000, 60GB 7200rpm HDD), as well as my girlfriend's R40 (1.3Ghz, 512MB PC2100, 20GB 4200rpm HDD, M6 video with 16MB), just to give everyone an idea of the performance. I'm also throwing in my old P4-2GHz system with 512MB RDRAM PC-800...

Lastly, the 80GB hard drive is nearly as fast on cached writes as the 60GB 7200RPM drive. This is important for me, as I do a good amount of video capture. But the cached reads are also fairly close. My tests indicate that there is maybe a 15%-20% improvement (max) in read/write speed with th 60GB 7200rpm v. 80GB 5400rpm. Given that nominal difference, I'll take the extra 20GB and quiter/less vibration 80GB drive anytime. Again, some of this is subjective, but my 60GB drive in my T40p definitely makes more noise and gives my right hand a nice vibrating massage everytime I use the notebook. lol :)


Now for the numbers....

SiSoft Sandra 2004 System Benchmark:

T42 (2373CYU): CPU-ALU=5493 CPU-Int=16518 CPU-Flt=18233 Mem-Int=2184 Mem-Flt=2193 HDD=22548 BufferedWrite=67MBsec (5400rpm HDD)
T40p (2373G3U): CPU-ALU=4984 CPU-Int=14877 CPU-Flt=16802 Mem-Int=1970 Mem-Flt=1983 HDD=23247 BufferedWrite=69MBsec (7200rpm HDD)
R40 (289723U): CPU-ALU=4077 CPU-Int=12353 CPU-Flt=13672 Mem-Int=1955 Mem-Flt=1964 HDD=13394 BufferedWrite=38MBsec (4200rpm HDD)
P4-2GHz : CPU-ALU=5275 Mem-Int=2554 Mem-Flt=2554 HDD=36900 BufferedWrite=45MBsec (RAID 1)


3DMark2001se and 3DMark03 Benchmarks:

T42 (2373CYU): 3DMark01=9377 3DMark03=2465
T40p (2373G3U): 3DMark01=7227 3DMark03= 735
R40 (289723U): 3DMark01=1534 3DMark03=N/A
T41 : 3DMark01=4982 (32MB ATI Radeon 9000)
P4-2GH : 3DMark01=8097 (AllinWonder9000 w/64MB)


Conclusion
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Overall, I'm VERY satisfied with my new T42! I finally have a desktop replacement that doesn't weigh like a desktop replacement, and DVD authoring/writing doesn't take two hours with the high performance components and the 2X DVD-R drive. It is surprisingly light, the screen is fantastic and easy to read, and all the components make home video/audio editing/authoring easy as can be. Not to mention games play great (despite the occasional ghosting--but that's what an external monitor is for, right... lol).

That's it for my review. I'll try to get pictures posted, but the pictures included with the recent T42p review are identical to what I have, and the picture quality is probably better than I can achieve.

Hope everyone else has similar/positive experiences with their new Thinkpads.

Take care,

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#2 Post by Txiasaeia » Fri May 21, 2004 5:28 pm

Terrific review! Thanks! The 3dMark 2001 score for the T42 is pretty sweet, but i'd like to see a business winstone score - if anybody comes across one for any T42 w/Dothan processor in the next few weeks, let me know, k? :)

When other people get their units, can you please comment on the keyboard as well? I'm glad to hear that the T42's keyboard is more solid than the T40/41's, but I'd like to get confirmation of this.

Congrats on the machine! Enjoy!

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#3 Post by geobel » Fri May 21, 2004 5:53 pm

Very detailed review! Thanks a lot!

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#4 Post by JHEM » Fri May 21, 2004 6:25 pm

Dan,

Thanks for that detailed review. I can't think of anyone more deserving to be among the first to get their new T42.

Conrats,

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#5 Post by tselling » Fri May 21, 2004 6:50 pm

Thanks for the review. Could you post the make and model# of the dvd-rw drive? I wanted to confirm its the M a t s u s h i t a UJ-812.
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#6 Post by Conmee » Fri May 21, 2004 7:03 pm

The DVD-R/RW drive is FRU# 92P6110 with a March 2004 date stamp (seems IBM was holding out on us for awhile... lol)... Model #UJ-812B manufactured by Panasonic...

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#7 Post by Mofongo » Fri May 21, 2004 7:09 pm

Great review! I can't wait to get mine! I will be getting the FireGL version, also with a 1.8GHz Dothan, so we compare 3DMarks. :)

I am very interested in how your experimenting with the new Rescue & Recovery scheme goes. I am going to make mine dual-boot XP and RedHat Enterprise 3.0. Since I am resizing partitions anyway, I would really like to reclaim some of the space used by R&Rw/RR features...especially since writing factory backup and data backups to CD (and DVD??) is so easy.

Keep that great info coming!

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#8 Post by dclee012 » Fri May 21, 2004 7:16 pm

man.. that green pixel! sucks...

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#9 Post by Conmee » Fri May 21, 2004 7:55 pm

Mofongo wrote:Great review! I can't wait to get mine! I will be getting the FireGL version, also with a 1.8GHz Dothan, so we compare 3DMarks. :)

I am very interested in how your experimenting with the new Rescue & Recovery scheme goes. I am going to make mine dual-boot XP and RedHat Enterprise 3.0. Since I am resizing partitions anyway, I would really like to reclaim some of the space used by R&Rw/RR features...especially since writing factory backup and data backups to CD (and DVD??) is so easy.

Keep that great info coming!

Thanks,

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Mofongo,

I had the opportunity to test the FireGL T2 w/128MB in a pre-production model last week, and they came in a tad slower than the MR9600 w/64MB. 3DMark2001se for the T42p was 9254 and the 3DMark2003 was 2347... of course, this is probably because 1) the Radeon Catalyst drivers are otpimized for speed v. OpenGL stability like the FireGL drivers, and 2) I ran RadClocker and noticed that the FireGL core/memory speeds were set to 317.25MHz/202.50MHz respectively, while the MR9600 w/64MB has a core/mem speeds of 317.25/209.25. Not sure why the difference in memory clocking, other than the additional memory generates additional heat, and the slightly lower memory speed probably allows the FireGL T2 to operate within the same thermal range as the MR9600... all theories of mine. :)

Incidentally, the MR9600 should be able to clock up to 350MHz for both core and memory, with anything over 333MHz and 128MB considered the MR9600 Turbo Pro. Found this interesting tidbit at Tom's Hardware. Anyhow, I installed RadClocker, which will tell you what your video chip is running at, and you can overclock. So I overclocked my system to 333MHz for a core speed and left the memory at factory default, and my 3DMark2001se score went up from 9377 to 9573 and my 3DMark03 score went up from 2465 to 2509. The cool thing about RadClocker is that you can also set it so that only your gaming apps turn up the clock on your GPU, leaving it at default during normal 2D stuff.

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#10 Post by JaimitoBond » Fri May 21, 2004 7:57 pm

Nice review! Sounds like a nice desktop replacement. I wonder what this will do to R50p sales...

This link showed some 3DMark 2003 and 3DMark2001 Se scores for a T41p, with 1 GB RAM. He also overclocked the video chip by using PowerStrip.

http://www.tpuser.idv.tw/phpBB2/viewtop ... 48&start=0


3DMark 2001se: 9071
3DMark 2001se overclocked (Engine Clock:420.75MHz Memory Clock:249.75MHz):10954

3DMark 2003: 2538
3DMark 2003, overclocked score (Engine Clock:420.75MHz Memory Clock:249.75MHz ): 3240


SiSoftware Sandra 2004.10.9.89:

CPU-ALU=5250 CPU-Int=15910 CPU-Flt=17613 Mem-Int=2163 Mem-Flt=2168 HDD=23840 BufferedWrite=72MBsec (7200rpm HDD)

Looks like 72K HD does make a difference. Memory is similar, and of course the CPU is slower than Dothan, by a bit.
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#11 Post by Conmee » Fri May 21, 2004 8:01 pm

Folks,

Something mildly disconcerting about the Flexview... I've noticed that on some high contrast screens, I see "ghosting" or more like 'shadowing' being generated, much like the old Dual Scan LCDs would do... know what I mean?

Go to the site webmail.att.net and take a look... the white login square area casts a 'shadow' down the screen where it is blue. Anyone else see this? I don't see this on an R40 or T30 and I don't have my T40p anymore. I'm wondering if the additional brightness in certain contrast situations will result in this type of 'shadow casting'... if so, I may rethink my Flexview choice. It's not a deal-breaker yet, but I am wondering what other artifacts/behaviors I'll uncover with this Flexview this weekend. Between this and the 'stuck green pixel' I may consider... GASP... a return.... lol

Stay tuned...

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#12 Post by HKILP7M8 » Fri May 21, 2004 9:19 pm

Daniel, sorry to hear about the shadowing, I hope this is just on that site.
How's the battery life? have you been able to test that yet?
I'm still waiting on mine.

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#13 Post by Conmee » Fri May 21, 2004 10:34 pm

I'm going to work on testing the battery life too...

Couple of other items:

I deleted all the partitions on my hard drive and used the 7 Restore CDs I created using the "Create Restore Media" applet that is now included. There was a point at which the restore procedure asked me for Disk 1, which I put in, and it sat there for about 5 minutes. Finally, I just hit the Enter key and it came back with an error saying that there was no Service Partition present and to abort the processes and reboot. After continuing, it evidently recreated the Service Partition and upon reboot, continued with the restore process. So beware when restoring the factory contents from CD.

Also, I was mistaken about the HPA and Service Partition. I ran the HPA Utility I downloaded from IBM, and it said that there is no PreDesktop Area present. Evidently, the IBM_SERVICE partition is the only partition on the HDD that holds the diagnostics tools, restore, etc. And it's 4.28GB.

With an 'adaptive' power setting, the fan no longer runs constantly, and the system is surprisingly cool compared to my T40p. Anyhow, I'll keep updating my findings throughout the weekend. :)

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#14 Post by Mofongo » Fri May 21, 2004 10:48 pm

Conmee wrote:
Also, I was mistaken about the HPA and Service Partition. I ran the HPA Utility I downloaded from IBM, and it said that there is no PreDesktop Area present. Evidently, the IBM_SERVICE partition is the only partition on the HDD that holds the diagnostics tools, restore, etc. And it's 4.28GB.

With an 'adaptive' power setting, the fan no longer runs constantly, and the system is surprisingly cool compared to my T40p. Anyhow, I'll keep updating my findings throughout the weekend. :)

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That's a nice change...sort of. On the plus side, now at least we don't have to worry about accidently blowing away the PreDesktop area when re-partitioning. I guess on the minus side, even with the restore CDs we will never be able to restore Windoze from them without having it overwrite something to make the IBM_SERVICE partition.

How did it re-make this partition? Did you have another one exactly the same size that it took over, or did it destroy whatever patition(s) were on the last 4.28GB?

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#15 Post by eriqesque » Fri May 21, 2004 10:50 pm

No shadowing on my trusty T40 on that website.

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#16 Post by Conmee » Fri May 21, 2004 11:21 pm

It created the partitions automatically... I used Partition Magic to remove both default partitions. However, the Rapid Restore app says that it will delete and re-create the partitions when restoring.

Another item: Ever since IBM released the 3.xx version of BIOS and Embedded Controller, I receive IDE controller and parity errors when using the Dock II in conjunction with a hard drive. I think it may have something to do with the Enable DMA setting in the updated BIOS. If I roll back my BIOS and Embedded on my T40p, the error disappeared. These errors are recorded in the Event Log. And only on initial boot. I've run tests and benchmarks, etc, and the drive works fine. Just a bit worrisome to see some startup errors like that. Even if there's a CD drive in the Ultrabay 2000 in the DOck II, I'll receive errors in the event log on startup. Anyone else seeing this?
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#17 Post by harryhermit » Fri May 21, 2004 11:55 pm

Wow, you got yours quick. My order was on the 11th and my estimated ship date is the 3rd of june.

Bad news about flexview though. I ordered the 15" flexview screen hoping it would be a step above their regular tft, but its starting to look disappointing. Now, I'm having regrets about my purchase. :(

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#18 Post by K. Eng » Sat May 22, 2004 12:00 am

I was unable to replicate any shaddowing effect on my mediocre XGA display (with washed out colors).

Do LCD TVs use IPS/FlexView technology? I saw a 30" Dell LCD TV this afternoon (it was hooked up to a Dell mid-tower system) and it is absolutely gorgeous, with 170 degree viewing angles and superb brightness and sharpness.

If the IBM screen is like that I think I'd really like it. Luckily I do mostly office work on my T40 - if I did any sort of graphics work I'd probably get a T42 with FlexView :)
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#19 Post by BillMorrow » Sat May 22, 2004 12:01 am

no shadowing on:

IBM netfinity server running an old #9 video card on IBM T750 TFT display
on two of three DELL Ultrasharp 2000FP displays on an appian graphics quad head video card..
AND
shadowing on the third of those three DELL displays..
R50p has a slight reflection of the white box under the white box.. :(

Very nice review..
if you get some pics i'll post/host them on thinkpads.com...

thanks..

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#20 Post by Conmee » Sat May 22, 2004 12:22 am

harryhermit wrote:Wow, you got yours quick. My order was on the 11th and my estimated ship date is the 3rd of june.

Bad news about flexview though. I ordered the 15" flexview screen hoping it would be a step above their regular tft, but its starting to look disappointing. Now, I'm having regrets about my purchase. :(
Well, I don't want to disappoint/discourage anyone. The more I use the Flexview, the more I like it. I'm not much of a gamer, but Unreal Tournament, Serious Sam, and Tron look fantastic, ghosting be [censored]. lol And the shadowing effect I noticed, or whatever it is, only seems to come up when I have white/light boxes and dark blue/grey/green backgrounds... for instance, the webmail.att.net page... also, when I open up the Paint applet and expand to full screen, I can see the faint shadow that the default 'white' work area creates on the grey background. Or, if I fill the Paint workarea with a dark blue/grey, and then I cut out a white box in the middle of the workspace, it throws a shadow. Anyhow, you all get the idea. The shadowing is faint, although quite perceptible on that AT&T webpage, due to the contrast.

All in all, I'm getting more attached to the Flexview with each use, particularly when side by side with a non-Flexview ThinkPad. And luckily, the one stuck pixel I have, which shows up on white/grey/blue/green surfaces, is very small and just beyond my peripheral vision. Nevertheless, I may opt for returning to IBM within the 30 day period and try my luck with a new one.

Anyhow, I think we've made good purchases in choosing the Flexview, and I think you'll be happy with it.
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#21 Post by GreenLight » Sat May 22, 2004 12:36 am

Conmee wrote:Go to the site webmail.att.net and take a look... the white login square area casts a 'shadow' down the screen where it is blue. Anyone else see this?
I use a Dell 20.1" LCD monitor, and I do not see any shadowing on that page. Then again, this monitor is "pefect" :D

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#22 Post by Lmax » Sat May 22, 2004 12:59 am

I see no ghosting on my T41p on that page. Sorry about the FlexView, then again I have a friend who says he got his T42 also and he is overall disappointed with the FlexView's performance. I don't know myself as I perfer my trusty new T41p.

Stuck pixels are unacceptable, IMO, that really sucks you have a dead green one.

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#23 Post by BillMorrow » Sat May 22, 2004 1:12 am

IRT the DELL display..
i think it is the alpine graphics card, not the display itself..
i could swap cables but its so [censored] DUSTY back there..
if anyone really cares, i'll try it over the weekend..
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#24 Post by taphil » Sat May 22, 2004 2:39 am

Conmee -

Can you check these two web pages and see if there are any artifacts?


http://www.aaronbennett.com/2001fp/2001fp-testimage.gif

http://www.xs4all.nl/~marcone/images/de ... p_test.gif

More reading at http://www.aaronbennett.com/2001fp/ . I had a Del 2001FP 20" LCD for 2 days before I returned for a bunch of reasons. One of them was because strange artifacts would show up. Granted one may only rarely come across such problems, I thought it was ridiculous to have a display do that.

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#25 Post by akerman » Sat May 22, 2004 4:14 am

Good review...it seems like there are absolutely no IBM-style quirks with this new machine :)

Btw - ONE stuck pixel.. consider yourself lucky - I've got 7 :(
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#26 Post by K. Eng » Sat May 22, 2004 7:35 am

7??? What resolution is your panel? The most I've seen on any LCD is 4, and that was on an XGA panel.
akerman wrote:Good review...it seems like there are absolutely no IBM-style quirks with this new machine :)

Btw - ONE stuck pixel.. consider yourself lucky - I've got 7 :(
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#27 Post by feamster » Sat May 22, 2004 8:43 am

Will the IBM backup utilize your DVD burner? Sounds like it might fit on one disk.

Has anyone received a 14 inch T42P yet? Does the physical construction seem the same as a T41P?

Thanks.

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#28 Post by GreenLight » Sat May 22, 2004 8:50 am

taphil wrote:Conmee -

Can you check these two web pages and see if there are any artifacts?


http://www.aaronbennett.com/2001fp/2001fp-testimage.gif

http://www.xs4all.nl/~marcone/images/de ... p_test.gif

More reading at http://www.aaronbennett.com/2001fp/ . I had a Del 2001FP 20" LCD for 2 days before I returned for a bunch of reasons. One of them was because strange artifacts would show up. Granted one may only rarely come across such problems, I thought it was ridiculous to have a display do that.
Okay, I see the artifacts on those pages with my 2001FP, but those are the ONLY pages that I have seen them on (i.e., they are somewhat contrived). I have never seen pages like that "in the wild", and the display is perfect for normal use, IMHO. For what I use it for, lots of black text on white backgrounds, source code, browsing, etc., I love it and would buy another :D

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#29 Post by gwitek » Sat May 22, 2004 9:15 am

Great review! And talk about real-time feed back, it's like being there watching you experiment with it this morning! I was just on the IBM site config'ing a T42 and thought I would research a bit and here you all are!

This new guy (to this forum) has owned TP's back to 600x and loves them. I got zapped on my last one though - hey, I didn't know about this forum :( . The T21 supports 1400x1050 on the LCD but only 1280x1024 on the external monitor - a significant nusance when not reclined in the LZB and actually working in my regular office.

I can not find this data on the IBM site (feel free to point me there if you know where). Do you know the max external monitor resolution for the SVGA+ Flex and the UXGA systems - or I guess more appropriately, the MR9600 or the FireGL.

Also, can we a built-in FireWire?

TIA!

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#30 Post by akeskira » Sat May 22, 2004 9:36 am

External resolutions can be found in the tabook (ftp://www.thinkpads.com/pub/T42%20Pages ... tabook.pdf). Looks like 2048x1536x16.7M is the max.

No integrated firewire available, but a PCMCIA card naturally works...

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