My new / Used T23 - Recovery information

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My new / Used T23 - Recovery information

#1 Post by jcnj6 » Mon Sep 27, 2004 3:14 pm

Greetings

I recently purchased a new/used T23
My first thought, as with any new equipment, is "How do I restore it, after I mess it up"?
I contacted IBM looking for a recovery disc, but there is none availiable.
I have heard that there may be a factory partition with the default install.

How do I find out if it is still intact?
How do I use it?

How do I procede if it is gone?

IBM said I should obtain a Win2000 stand alone install disc
Where is the best (cheapest) way to go?
Should I look at XP?

If I use a stand alone install, what about the the Thinkpad installation stuff?
Any other good ideas?

The T23 is running fine, I just want to be ready for . . . . ?

Thanks to all who respond

Rich J

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#2 Post by sktn77a » Mon Sep 27, 2004 3:59 pm

Look for some recovery CDs on e-bay. Most are backwards compatible (ie a T4x series should work on a T2x).
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#3 Post by jcnj6 » Mon Sep 27, 2004 8:49 pm

I noticed that my hard drive is only 26gig
I must assume that there is a 4gig partiiton hidden with the factory presets

Does this seem reasonable to all?

The F1 setup utility shows the F11 feature possible, but greyed out
IBM.com offers a Service partition repair diskette program

Should I assume that this will work when the time comes?
I have not found info yet that says I can restore the F11 function without doing a full restore
Is there a way to confirm that the factory data is still intact?

Thanks to all you techo-genius'

Rich J

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can i use other recovery disks

#4 Post by uplank » Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:11 am

"Most are backwards compatible (ie a T4x series should work on a T2x)."

Can anyone confirm that this is the case, as there are various ones on ebay but no T23. Could i use a T4* to install XP pro??

Thanks all

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Question

#5 Post by uplank » Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:22 am

BTW the reason i need this is that i have an IBM sticker (pres OEM) for XP. But the CD key wont work. I was told by someone i may need the original CD`s to do this. Do you know if this is the case????

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#6 Post by Nolonemo » Thu Jul 07, 2005 9:34 am

When I got a used T22 with the factory load on it, I just imaged the entire hard disk using Acronis Trueimage.
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Mine doesnt

#7 Post by uplank » Thu Jul 07, 2005 10:55 am

Mine doesnt have a factory load. It has a dodgy Xp.

I want to use the Product key that i have on a sticker on the bottom (tried changing key) but it wont accept the key as valid. Someone told me this is becuase it is an IBM key, i need to use the restore disks.

Also cant seem to find/see/f11 into any restore partition.

Any ideas,

Dan

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#8 Post by Ted_E » Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:20 am

jcnj6 wrote:I noticed that my hard drive is only 26gig
I must assume that there is a 4gig partiiton hidden with the factory presets

Does this seem reasonable to all?

The F1 setup utility shows the F11 feature possible, but greyed out
IBM.com offers a Service partition repair diskette program

Should I assume that this will work when the time comes?
I have not found info yet that says I can restore the F11 function without doing a full restore
Is there a way to confirm that the factory data is still intact?

Thanks to all you techo-genius'

Rich J
I also have a T23. I bought DFSee
< http://www.dfsee.com/ >
and looked at the disk on mine (40GB drive). It had W2000 and a 1GB repair partition. I'm surprised ant missing 4GB but DFSee will quickly tell you what's where.

I chose to make my own restore disk by using DFSee to save partition images and partition tables which I wrote to a DVD.
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T60, 2GHz, 1.5GB RAM, 250GB HD, IBM CD/DVD Multi Burner does DL, eCS 2.0 GA
very occasionally XP

T23, 1.2GHz, 512MB RAM, 40GB HD, IBM CD/DVD Multi Burner, eCS 1.2R
very occasionally W2K

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#9 Post by jongordo8 » Fri Jul 08, 2005 11:05 am

I was wondering what to do about acquiring recovery disks for my t23 as well. I guess making an image maybe the best idea, otherwise couldn't you use rescue and recovery to make a recovery disk?
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#10 Post by Ted_E » Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:33 pm

jongordo8 wrote:I was wondering what to do about acquiring recovery disks for my t23 as well. I guess making an image maybe the best idea, otherwise couldn't you use rescue and recovery to make a recovery disk?
First discllaimer: I have W2000 and eCS on my T23. I use eCS (version of OS/2) almost exclusively. There is a few apps for which I still use 'doze but a gradually decreasing number.

There are two disadvantages to creating the ability to rebuild the rescue facility:
a) I have deleted the rescue/recovery partition so I could use the space for my stuff.
b) Restoring from the repair facility restores your machine to the way you got it. You then have to jump through all the hoops to set it up, download all the updates, re-install all your apps that are on the bott drive, etc. A _lot_ of work.

If you use the drive image facility of DFSee to create a drive image, burn it to a bootable CD and save these backups, you can restore to the last known good installation and avoid a start-from-scratch situation. You want to save the partition information and tables as well. DFSee will do this for you. WARNING: DFSee is a very powerfull program. Be sure you read the docs and understand what you are about to do with it.

With eCS I can go one step further. As well as saving the partition tables and drive images once, I regularly ZIP up my drives and write the ZIPs out. Since OS/2 and eCS do not scatter stuff all over the drive, the one time in eight years of using OS/2 then eCS that I managed to screw up my boot drive to the point that it wouldn't, I booted from one of the install disks and restored the ZIP and re-booted. I was back in business. I doubt that would work with 'doze. I think you would want to save drive images as backups.

Ted
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T60, 2GHz, 1.5GB RAM, 250GB HD, IBM CD/DVD Multi Burner does DL, eCS 2.0 GA
very occasionally XP

T23, 1.2GHz, 512MB RAM, 40GB HD, IBM CD/DVD Multi Burner, eCS 1.2R
very occasionally W2K

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