Stollen Thinkpad restoring with a backup done with IBM Rescu

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Stollen Thinkpad restoring with a backup done with IBM Rescu

#1 Post by urman » Tue Sep 28, 2004 5:55 pm

1 I have on an external USB Drive a complet backup done with IBM Rescue and restore 4

2 My thinkpad has been stolen !

3 IBM told me that I can only restore with the original Thinkpad ! :x

4 I cannot believe there is no solution : I can see I have 39 GO of Data and need to get them back !
HELP

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#2 Post by MadeInJapan » Tue Sep 28, 2004 9:29 pm

It's hard to tell from your entry if you are trying to load things back on a stolen thinkpad or if since your thinkpad was stolen you are trying load what was on your original (stolen) thinkpad onto another, new thinkpad. Please clarify. It could make a difference as to whether anyone is willing to help you or not.

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A31p stollen, IBM Rescue and T42P

#3 Post by urman » Wed Sep 29, 2004 1:52 am

My thinkpad (A31P) has been stollen.
That from this one I have a backup made with IBM rescue (version 4 )on an external hard drive.
Now I want to restore this backup on my new Thinkpad (T42p) but can't do it .
IBM told me that I need to have the A31p to make the restauration !

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#4 Post by egibbs » Wed Sep 29, 2004 6:20 am

Well, you definitely would not be able to restore a working version of Windows from an A31 to a T42p. The differences in hardware are just too great.

What you MIGHT be able to do is create a new, non-bootable partition on the the T42p and restore the image there, so at least you could copy the data off. I'm not sure if the free rescue and recovery software will allow you to do this.

Or you might want to investigate whether the full "Pro" version will provide more functionality - but even that might not work with an image created with the free version.

If you google for "data recovery" you will find companies that should be able to recover the files from the backup (for a considerable fee).

Good luck,

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#5 Post by MadeInJapan » Wed Sep 29, 2004 11:28 pm

Okay, you made more sense the second time. I agree that the two computers are very different and you will not be able to restore from one to the other. I would recommend you getting a 2nd hard drive adapter and putting the hard drive with the restore files into it and taking off the data files that way, or borrow someone else's A-31 and use it to take files from your HDD and burn them onto disc so that you can then use them with your new computer. Good luck!

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#6 Post by egibbs » Thu Sep 30, 2004 6:08 am

Hmmm - If he's got a R&R image I'm not sure he can just get files out of it without first restoring it somewhere. And I'm not sure if R&R will allow him to restore it to a non-bootable partition, or if it will insist on trying to recreate the original drive layout.

I know Drive Image has an Image Expolrer that lets you see and copy the files from inside a Drive Image image, but that would not work with an R&R image.

If he really can't restore the image someplace where he can work with it to get the files out he may have no choice but to go the data recovery route, and that can get exensive. A cautionary tale for those using R&R free as their sole backup scheme.

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#7 Post by muffd » Thu Sep 30, 2004 2:35 pm

Have you tried GetDataBack? I used this last week to recover 200gb of mp3s, family photos, and applications. Now, everything is backed up in two different places.
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#8 Post by JaneL » Thu Sep 30, 2004 3:42 pm

>Well, you definitely would not be able to restore a working version of Windows from an A31 to a T42p. The differences in hardware are just too great.
>

Oh, I'd give it a try. Since 1997, I've ported a single installation of Windows from a 755CE all the way up to a T23 via several 760 and 600 models while also upgrading from NT40 to W2k along the way. Initially, I did it restoring from a tape backup. The last few have been done using the drivebay HDD adapter to clone the drive.
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#9 Post by urman » Thu Sep 30, 2004 3:53 pm

In fact I do not want to restore the system but just my data.
I am going to try the Getdataproduct .

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#10 Post by MadeInJapan » Thu Sep 30, 2004 10:11 pm

Let us know how things turn out....will be good to know if any of us end up in a similar situation.

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restoring from image ...

#11 Post by friedrich-eugen » Fri Oct 29, 2004 9:54 am

Good Afternoon Urman,

I am not sure, whether getdataback will really help much. I have been using it to restore partitions lost by our servicepeople while completely reinstalling my office machine (they just undid all partitions on the local masterhd, instead of the first partition), with complete success.

But You're talking/writing of restoring from an image, which ought to be a very different job!

I'ld take the route to second hd-adapter and a professional software latest version, capable of reading complete images as well as single files.

As a last ressort I would resort to borrowing a A31P and a hhd, imaging the existing hdd to a further external drive, restoring from Your USB-drive, transfering the datafiles to Your new TP and finally restoring the original partition from the temporary drive to the borrowed A 31p.

Anyway, it will take Your time, and quite some hours of it...

Good luck and happier trails ...
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Re: Stollen Thinkpad restoring with a backup done with IBM R

#12 Post by monty cantsin » Wed Nov 03, 2004 11:37 am

urman wrote:IBM told me that I can only restore with the original Thinkpad ! :x
What IBM told you is right, but it's not the whole story. It's correct that the backup of the A31p's system partition won't boot up flawlessly on a T42p. But, after all, you still can restore the A31p backup to a T42p, that's possible. It just won't boot up. You could do the following:

1. Get a spare, empty drive with enough space on it, install it in your T42p, boot R&R from the emergency CD, and restore the contents of the USB drive to it. Then remove it, put the drive that came originally with your T42p back in, stick the drive onto which you extracted the backup into a USB enclosure and you'll have free access to all data. You just have to take care that you don't mix up versions: backups that were made with R&R ver. 1 should be restored with R&R ver. 1 and not with ver. 2.

2. But as you're just looking for your personal data, I guess that's not even necessary. R&R can, in fact, restore individual files and folders. Just start the Windows interface, choose the restore files function from the restore menu, select your USB drive and the backup set (usually the latest one), then mark the files and/or folders you want to restore and the location they should be saved to.

Here's the Rapid Restore 4.0 manual:

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-54504

The process is described on page 16.

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Problem restoring files with Rescue and Recovery V2

#13 Post by urman » Sun Jan 02, 2005 12:51 am

After all I have been able to put the RRUBACKUP on my new thinkpad (T42P).
Using R&R V 2 I am able to see 3 rescues.
I wanted to restore the files from My Document
I was able to restore all files from folder's name from W to D,
but when I tried to restore anything from a folder's name from A to C I have a error message (translation) : "error during saved file access"


I can "see" via R&R all the details of the index of these files but can't get it back !
Does anyone has anykind of solution ?[/img]

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