bluish tint to LCD on new T42p

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bluish tint to LCD on new T42p

#1 Post by daccagree » Wed Sep 29, 2004 4:36 pm

IBM ThinkPad T42p (2373GVU)
Pentium M 745 - 1.8GHz, 1GB PC2700
14.1" SXGA+, ATI FireGL T2 w/128MB

Just bought it. LCD works fine, good saturation, bright, but the whites have a bluish tint, like being in high mountain sunlight, the reason you need a UV filter at altitude. Its very clear if you compare it with a desktop or even my older T40 where whites are white. This screen has a definite bluish tinge that cannot be eliminated by working with the advanced color and gamma options of the firewireGL menu in desktop prooerties.

I reported this to tech support who suggested I return the machine, but they havent heard of this complaint before. I dont know (and neither did IBM techsupport) who the oem of the screen is, although the machine is Chinese manufactured.

Anyone else noticed this? The machine otherwise works fine.

I agree that IBM should sell a 14.1 flexview.

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#2 Post by Conmee » Wed Sep 29, 2004 9:06 pm

I've got the 14" T42p (Samsung screen) with the same characteristics. I set my color profile for Blue as follows (Gamma=.90 Brightness=-10 Contrast=100) and left red and green at defaults. This was about as good as I could get it without it adversely affecting greens/reds or the brightness. I did this while sitting my T42p next to a 15" T42p with Flexview. Side-by-side, there was no comparison in terms of color (Flexview kicks butt). But I tried to get the whites/greys/blues to look more like Flexview. The above settings were about as close as I could get it. Nevertheless, it still washes out toward the bottom and there's still a slight blue tint. But it seems better than the default.

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#3 Post by mr_mbuna » Thu Sep 30, 2004 12:32 am

I'm noticing a very blue tint on my brand new T42 14.1" SXGA+ w/ ATI 9600 64MB.

Take a look: 2-day-old T42 2373-3VU 14.1" SXGA+ w/ ATI 9600 64MB and factory color settings side-by-side with 2-week-old Dell 1901FP 19" LCD display. Kodak DX7630 6.1 megapixel digicam, no flash, no post-photo correction. Clearly, the 1901FP is superior.

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#4 Post by Conmee » Thu Sep 30, 2004 9:33 am

Well, it's simply not fair to compare a notebook LCD to a desktop LCD.... lol... the desktop LCDs have dedicated power supplies, brighter and more uniform backlighting, better contrast, etc, etc... Even the Flexview notebook screens, which are immensely better than standard notebook LCDs, still don't quite stack up to a desktop LCD.

As a general rule, in order of quality, from best to worst is:

1) Flexview/IPS Desktop LCD ---> 2) Standard Desktop LCD ---> 3) Flexview Notebook LCD ---> 4) Standard Notebook LCD

Basically, we have the worst of the LCD implementations on our 14" T42p's... lol... but this can be said for basically all notebook screens. Some Dells and Toshibas I've seen tend to have slightly better brightness than my T42p, but the contrast and color accuracy are still inferior to Flexview, even on those manufacturer's screens.


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Thank you, Daniel

#5 Post by daccagree » Thu Sep 30, 2004 6:31 pm

I adjusted the color settings as you suggested and i agree this is as good as i can get it. Still, not great.

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#6 Post by MommyT » Sun Oct 03, 2004 2:02 am

After eliminating all the odd "spots" which people here thought to relate to Microsoft graphics, i was still left with what i called a "washed out" look on my 2373 KTU, color fading markedly from top to bottom. (see previous thread- "2373 screen looks terrible"-- suspect i'm seeing exactly what's described here in different terms. At time of post, others suggested this was merely what a non- flexview screen looks like, and that i had been spoiled because my previous machine (A30p) had flexview. But more recent poster says flexview only introduced in the A31 line- so now I don't know- maybe something systematically wrong with these recent machines. May return to IBM once more for futher tweaking (first time they allegedly replaced the system board, but that did nothing), but having been without the machine for so long, am waiting a while to do this. Will be interested in hearing experience os others as to this matter. Screen more tolerable at night, but still worse than most laptops i've seen.

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