what is the best way to turn OFF startup processes?

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nikemen · #1 Post by **nikemen** » Sat Oct 02, 2004 11:12 am

Okay.
I know which ones I want to kill, but some still load. I have tried MSCONFIG, but everytime it boots, it asks me if I want to indeed not load or load, and then requires a restart.

is there a setting somewhere that will better controll this, or some other good applicatoin for shutting things down. On this TP, i start with 192MB used already.

one other question.

what is lsass.exe? I tried to stop it, but it told me it was a critical system process.

anyone know what acs.exe is ?
how bout mismn.exe?

I cannot seem to find any information on these,

DavidNZ · #2 Post by **DavidNZ** » Sat Oct 02, 2004 2:41 pm

msconfig is the way to turn off startup processes. When I do it, upon reboot it always tells me that I've monkeyed with the startup, which I know, and just say OK to get me into the desktop environment.

lsass.exe has something to do with logins. See http://www.neuber.com/taskmanager/proce ... s.exe.html

msimn.exe (you spelled it mismn) is Outlook express according to windowsstartup.com

is acs.exe really acsd.exe? if so, it's the AOL connectivity service, again according to windowsstartup.com

nikemen · #3 Post by **nikemen** » Sat Oct 02, 2004 3:22 pm

DavidNZ wrote:msconfig is the way to turn off startup processes. When I do it, upon reboot it always tells me that I've monkeyed with the startup, which I know, and just say OK to get me into the desktop environment.

lsass.exe has something to do with logins. See http://www.neuber.com/taskmanager/proce ... s.exe.html

msimn.exe (you spelled it mismn) is Outlook express according to windowsstartup.com

is acs.exe really acsd.exe? if so, it's the AOL connectivity service, again according to windowsstartup.com

thanks
acs.exe is as it is typed, I cannot find any reference. other than the Atheros Connection manager, but I don't think that is it since that is disabled.

#4 Post by **jdhurst** » Sat Oct 02, 2004 3:48 pm

Acs and Lsass are Microsoft processes. Why do you wish to disable them? They don't appear to cause problems, and they also do not appear (on my machine) in the startup list. I would be careful about disabling services unless you are entirely certain there is no uwanted consequences.

In terms of startup processes, I use Startup Cop from PC Magazine. That will let you disable the startup process without uninstalling the software. At this point, on my T41, the only process I have disabled is Mighty Fax because I don't need my Fax software running in the system tray. Everything else (including the new version of IBM Message) can be managed at the application level not to start or not to show up in the system tray.

I read the posts here with some interest, because nothing from IBM, nothing from Microsoft or any other vendor I have installed is causing any performance issue. I just tweaked the applications where appropriate and carried on. Properly setup, your machine should be running at 1 percent CPU or less at idle.

... JDHurst

nikemen · #5 Post by **nikemen** » Sat Oct 02, 2004 3:59 pm

I am trying to do the research now, since something is banging my TP41 to 100%. I cannot find the culprit, not Battery Manager, or the 32. app.

I would just like to work it down a bit, since I think, 200 mb to start is a bit much.

#6 Post by **jdhurst** » Sat Oct 02, 2004 4:52 pm

One observation here is that memory and CPU are not the same thing. I have Explorer, Outlook 2003, Office plus a whack of other stuff running and it all consumes 475Mb of 768 available on my NetVista desktop and 450Mb of 768 available on my T41 Laptop. I can unload Explorer and Outlook to free up memory if need be. But on both machines, CPU is running at less than 1 percent.

So if something is running CPU up to 100 percent, you need to check running processes with Task Manager. Other than System Idle process, most things should be at 0 CPU at idle.

Microsoft Instant Messanger interacts with Outlook 2002 and Norton Internet Security in a very negative way. I finally shut down IM. If I want it, I can get it.

... JDHurst

Leeper · #7 Post by **Leeper** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 7:28 pm

You can not kill the LSASS process it handles all MSFT security auth and permissions on your machine and for requests to the domain.

There are a few bugs (with hotfixes) that will cause LSASS to take up 100% of the CPU.

Is ACS.exe the Access connections software?

#8 Post by **carbon_unit** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:35 pm

Also if you have some spyware on your computer some of them spawn new instances of lsass to do their dirty work and these can crank up your CPU usage to 100%.
Maybe some scanning with adaware and/or spybot is in order.

nikemen · #9 Post by **nikemen** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 10:15 pm

I have done many scans, where is the info about hotfixes for the LSASS bugs? Is the MSFT specific. I am pretty up to date on this machine, with exception of SP2

Leeper · #10 Post by **Leeper** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 10:41 pm

Search the MSFT K-base for LSASS.exe

They are hotfixes for the OS.

nikemen · #11 Post by **nikemen** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 11:09 pm

I wasn't able to find anything on MSFT, not hotfixes at least

selvan777 · #12 Post by **selvan777** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:59 am

Stop services from running at startup by going to Start+Run and type "services.msc", the options you have for startup type for any entry here may be Automatic, Manual or Disabled. Be very careful of what changes you make here.

Stop applications from running at startup by going to Start+Run and type "regedit" and go to the below hives, you may delete any entry but export it first in case you want to import it back:

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

and/or

HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

selvan777 · #13 Post by **selvan777** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:59 am

Be aware that msconfig will allow you to turn off things that will in-turn not allow windows to boot. I don't know what exactly but I am aware.

Dominix · #14 Post by **Dominix** » Wed Oct 13, 2004 11:44 pm

selvan777 has it right. The correct way to disable processes is by using services.msc.

Never use msconfig for this task.

For info on what the services (processes) do and how they react with each other go to blackviper.com

nikemen · #15 Post by **nikemen** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 12:15 am

I do use servcies to disable most things, msft based and good software. But, there are some things that run, that are not in the services menu. There are some ipod items for example, cannot seem to find them there or in the application.

Quicken is notorious for running something that just cannot be turned off. I know, in msconfig I can find it, but I had the dance it makes me do

selvan777 · #16 Post by **selvan777** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 1:05 am

nikemen wrote:I know, in msconfig I can find it, but I had the dance it makes me do

If you must use msconfig to find the culprit than you'll have to dance. You know you could check the box next to ""Don't show this message or launch the System Configuration Utility when Windows starts" at reboot after making changes.

Do a google search for free startup utilities or managers to do the task at hand.

lsass.exe is needed for windows but I have no idea what acs.exe and mismn.exe is, I don't have them.

what is the best way to turn OFF startup processes?

what is the best way to turn OFF startup processes?

thanks for the reply

yeah

wasn't able to find anything

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