vistas greyed out my trackpoint

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vistas greyed out my trackpoint

#1 Post by ids » Fri Apr 20, 2007 1:43 pm

has anyone run into this? i have the latest drivers and all the software from lenovo. also check the bios everything looks right. why is windows keeping from using my trackpoint?

when i hit fn-f8, the button option (only track pad) is selected. if i choose the middle option (only trackpoint) the track pad stops working (as expected) but the trackpoint doesn't work either. if I try to choose the first option (both enabled) it does not stay selected, it automatically goes back to the buttom option.

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not here

#2 Post by gt5l » Fri Apr 20, 2007 1:51 pm

It works for me, fn F8 toggles like it should and everything work like it should, I think the driver for the trackpoint driver is not working like it should. I recommend downloading the trackpoint driver and updating that driver using Win Device Mgr
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#3 Post by ids » Fri Apr 20, 2007 2:18 pm

just loaded the latest and greatest from the lenovo site, rebooted, and i am getting the same thing.

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#4 Post by gt5l » Fri Apr 20, 2007 2:30 pm

I dont mean to insult your Intelligence but please follow the steps
  • go device manager and uninstall and delete the Think Pad Ultra Nav pointing device
    reboot
    find new hardware in the device manager again and point it to the new driver, my driver is 9.1.3.0 form synaptics
Driver available here http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-62928 pick the one for your operating system
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#5 Post by garyd9 » Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:56 pm

Had a similar issue after a clean install of Vista Ultimate and updating everything via SystemUpdate. In my case, I downloaded the ultra-nav driver AND utlity program from lenovo's driver matrix, and installed them both by hand - and then rebooted. After that, it worked fine.

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#6 Post by ids » Fri Apr 20, 2007 8:21 pm

I just went through both of your suggestions and neither worked. i still can't select the first option in the ultranav device settings and the trackpoint is still grayed out in the mouse properties.

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Is this an upgrade to Vista...?

#7 Post by Bing0 » Fri Apr 20, 2007 11:23 pm

I suspect that this is an upgrade to Vista from XP Pro.
If so, then there might be issues related to this involving applications and driver compatability issues beyond just Trackpoint.

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-67168

There are a large number of third party software applications in addition to the list below.

Go to add remove programs and uninstall:

Access Help
Access IBM
Access IBM Message Center
Access Support
Automated Solutions
Away Manager
Battery Maximizer
EasyEject Utility
Help Center
Hotkey Features
IBM Client Security Software
IBM Java Webstart
Keyboard Customizer
Lenovo Care
Lenovo Client Security Solution
PC-Doctor for Windows
Power Management driver for Windows
Presentation Director
Productivity Center
Record Now
Scroll Lock Indicator
Software Installer
System Information Viewer Application
Tablet Shortcut Menu
ThinkPad Configuration
ThinkVantage Access Connections
ThinkVantage Active Protection System
ThinkVantage Fingerprint Software
ThinkVantage System Update
TrackPoint Accessibility Features
UltraNav Wizard
Update Connector

Then go to device manager and uninstall the trackpoint hardware and then reboot and install the latest system update software for Vista.

Let us know if this resolves your issues please.
Bing0

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#8 Post by gt5l » Sat Apr 21, 2007 9:02 am

One last idea, do you have the "Lenovo System Interface Driver" installed?
available here http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-67228
"This is a necessary program for ThinkPad and 3000 systems. This program is used by many other programs. This package provides the following utility program for Microsoft Windows Vista users.."
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#9 Post by ids » Sat Apr 21, 2007 9:37 am

It was a clean install not an upgrade.

i will try that last link now.

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#10 Post by ids » Sat Apr 21, 2007 9:53 am

i installed the interface driver. it did not help my trackpoint issue at all and actually made things worse because now i can not connect to my wireless network.

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#11 Post by garyd9 » Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:16 am

At this point, I'd try to start over from scratch. Here was my "clean install" experience of Vista Ultimate:

Copy the intel SATA drivers to a USB key.

Insert vista install DVD, reboot.

select partition, format it. Then remember to do the 'have disc' thing for the SATA driver (had to browse to the driver.)

Install vista... nearly everything worked out of the box...

Install thinkpad System update.

Install whatever I wanted from the system update.

Update vista with MS patches (windows update)

Notice that while the trackpad/trackpoint work, its not using the ultranav driver. Try SU again, install more stuff ;)

Still not using the proper driver - go to thinkpad driver matrix (on lenovo/ibm site) and download both the ultranav driver and utility program...

Run both of the above exe's. For each, this is a two step process: running the EXE only extract's the contents of the archive into \drivers\win. After that's done, manually go into the proper subdirectory (\drivers\win\unav.v32 followed by \drivers\win\unavutil) and run 'setup.exe'. Note that I did NOT reboot between installing the driver and util program - but did reboot after both were installed.

Finally, all is good.

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#12 Post by gt5l » Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:18 am

ids wrote:i installed the interface driver. it did not help my trackpoint issue at all and actually made things worse because now i can not connect to my wireless network.

I am pout of ideas that do not involve fresh install, sorry
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#13 Post by Bing0 » Sat Apr 21, 2007 4:24 pm

ids wrote:i installed the interface driver. it did not help my trackpoint issue at all and actually made things worse because now i can not connect to my wireless network.
Remove the device as well as the software in add remove programs.
Even though you did remove the device you also need to remove the Trackpoint software as well. If this does not work, call IBM and ask for escalated tech support. If you do not, you will have to go through basic help desk support which might involve someone reading flowcharts with the end result being no resolution.

When you do get it resolved, please post here and let us know what the procedural solution was.

peace,
Bing0

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