Touchpoint scrolling in Office 2007

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Touchpoint scrolling in Office 2007

#1 Post by mikesugar » Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:35 am

Touchpoint scrolling (holding the middle button and moving the touchpoint to scroll) does not seem to work in Office 2007.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Is there a fix?

I have no data on whether TouchPad scrolling works in office 2007.

Thanks,
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#2 Post by RonS » Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:45 am

I just tested it and it worked for me. I opened a document in Office Word 2007, and set my Trackpoint Properties to "Standard Scrolling." Hold down the center mouse button, and the track stick made the document scroll up/down.
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#3 Post by arni » Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:57 am

You have to modify the TP4Table.dat and TP4scrol.dat in C:\Program Files\Synaptics\SynTP with the following lines to make the Touchpad compatible with Office 2007.

; Office 2007 Scroll Fix
*,*,WINWORD.exe,*,*,*,WheelStd,0,9
*,*,MSPUB.exe,*,*,*,WheelStd,0,9
*,*,POWERPNT.exe,*,*,*,WheelStd,0,9
*,*,OUTLOOK.exe,*,*,*,WheelStd,0,9
*,*,ONENOTE.exe,*,*,*,WheelStd,0,9
*,*,INFOPATH.exe,*,*,*,WheelStd,0,9
*,*,GROOVE.exe,*,*,*,WheelStd,0,9
*,*,EXCEL.exe,*,*,*,WheelStd,0,9
*,*,MSACCESS.exe,*,*,*,WheelStd,0,9

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#4 Post by mikesugar » Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:30 am

Thanks, that did it.

Where does one find such a nugget of knowledge as this?
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#5 Post by GomJabbar » Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:45 am

mikesugar wrote:Where does one find such a nugget of knowledge as this?
On forum.thinkpads.com! Where else? :wink:

Thanks arni!
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#6 Post by arni » Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:14 am

You said it Gom! :wink:

And this also fixes the problem with iTunes scrolling and FeedDemon scrolling.

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#7 Post by primedude » Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:56 am

I'm wondering if anyone else thinks that this thread might be a suitable sticky?

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#8 Post by garyd9 » Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:57 am

I'm wondering if a line such as:

*,*,*,*,*,*,WheelStd,0,9

would fix everything...

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#9 Post by seeplus » Wed Apr 25, 2007 3:13 pm

This is great! Thank you.
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#10 Post by garyd9 » Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:45 pm

*,*,*,*,*,*,WheelStd,0,9 : does nothing.

For windows vista, "notepad" application:

*,*,notepad.exe,*,*,*,Standard,1,9

I'm doing this the hard way... Changing both .dat files, rebooting, trying the app. In changing the .dat files, I'm only changing the method (Standard, WheelStd, etc) and the pass flag. For me, none of the methods worked for notepad when the 'pass' was set to 0.

Still working on "devenv.exe" (Visual Studio.NET 2005)

I wish there was an easier way to reload the .dat files without rebooting...

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#11 Post by laundromatt » Sat Apr 28, 2007 11:49 pm

awesome tip. it's threads like these that make the hours browsing this forum worthwhile.
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#12 Post by Andy » Tue May 01, 2007 10:16 am

garyd9 wrote:*,*,*,*,*,*,WheelStd,0,9 : does nothing.

For windows vista, "notepad" application:

*,*,notepad.exe,*,*,*,Standard,1,9

I'm doing this the hard way... Changing both .dat files, rebooting, trying the app. In changing the .dat files, I'm only changing the method (Standard, WheelStd, etc) and the pass flag. For me, none of the methods worked for notepad when the 'pass' was set to 0.

Still working on "devenv.exe" (Visual Studio.NET 2005)

I wish there was an easier way to reload the .dat files without rebooting...
Do you know where any general instructions for these settings could be found? I develop in a little-known tool call eDeveloper and have scroll-wheel issues in it. Any tips would be greatly appreciated!
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#13 Post by garyd9 » Tue May 01, 2007 10:25 am

Andy wrote:Do you know where any general instructions for these settings could be found? I develop in a little-known tool call eDeveloper and have scroll-wheel issues in it. Any tips would be greatly appreciated!
No idea. I had no luck getting the scrolling to work with Visual Studio2005 under Vista. However, it works fine (without hacks to the .dat file) under XP. Notepad works fine in XP as well without hacks. The hacks are still required for Office2007 under XP.

For your purpose, it might be easiest to just start simple: copy one of the office 2007 lines, and change the name of the .exe to whatever EXE your dev enviroment uses... and then just trial and error...

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#14 Post by Andy » Wed May 23, 2007 9:08 am

garyd9 wrote:
Andy wrote:Do you know where any general instructions for these settings could be found? I develop in a little-known tool call eDeveloper and have scroll-wheel issues in it. Any tips would be greatly appreciated!
No idea. I had no luck getting the scrolling to work with Visual Studio2005 under Vista. However, it works fine (without hacks to the .dat file) under XP. Notepad works fine in XP as well without hacks. The hacks are still required for Office2007 under XP.

For your purpose, it might be easiest to just start simple: copy one of the office 2007 lines, and change the name of the .exe to whatever EXE your dev enviroment uses... and then just trial and error...
Thanks, that technique worked fine. Now I'm having new fun with the files. I bought a Lenovo USB Travel Keyboard which I use to try to improve the ergonomics of my new laptop which I set on a stand at the office to raise the screen. Lucky me, each time I plug the USB keyboard to a different port -- or maybe just each time I plug it in, I'm not sure -- the driver reinstalls itself thus helpfully overwriting those files for me.

I found the copies of those two files in the driver installation folder and updated them, too, so hopefully now my changes will stick.

Thanks again!
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Works vertically but not horizonally

#15 Post by mikesugar » Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:50 pm

This works for vertical scrolling, but not horizontal on my machine.

Any ideas on how to enable horizontal scrolling, especially in Excel?
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#16 Post by SHoTTa35 » Thu Jun 07, 2007 3:45 pm

i think i saw an update for that on Lenovo.com oneday or somewhere. I dunno, i didn't install it but i know i definitely saw something to that effect.

well this might be exactly it but i'm sure you guys can dig it up:

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... 67941.html
(New) Support scrolling on MS PowerPoint 2007
(New) Support scrolling on Google Picasa
(New) Support scrolling on Eudora version 5.2.1
Version 4.51
(New) Support scrolling on Netscape version 8.1.2
(New) Support scrolling on MS Excel 2007
(New) Support scrolling on MS Word 2007
Version 4.02

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#17 Post by Oaklodge » Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:50 pm

where in the file do you place these changes ?
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Hey...Laundromat! How d ya do it?

#18 Post by ibm meister » Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:18 am

How did you fix the scrolling issue? I have 2623-d6u Vista/2007 Scrolling only does NOT work in Word. Everything else ok

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#19 Post by arni » Sat Jun 09, 2007 2:57 am

Oaklodge wrote:where in the file do you place these changes ?
Put it just below all those entries in the Pass 0 rules.

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How????

#20 Post by ibm meister » Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:55 am

I am a dummy. Could you give me specific directions how to fix. DAT file will not open with adobe

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Re: How????

#21 Post by Wiz » Sat Jun 09, 2007 5:17 pm

ibm meister wrote:I am a dummy. Could you give me specific directions how to fix. DAT file will not open with adobe
You should use a text editor (like notepad) to open and edit the file. If you tried to doubleclick on the file and a Adobe program start you should open notepad then select File-Open on the menu and choose Files of type "All Files" and select the dat file. Or just drag and drop the file into notepad while notepad is open.
Then you can add the lines above somewhere in the dat file similar to the other programs that is already included in the dat file. It's pretty easy to see how it's done when you manage to open the file in a text editor.

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#22 Post by mcvosi » Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:48 pm

I made the change to the files, but it still does not work in the preview pane of Outlook. Does anyone else have this issue even after modifying the files?

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#23 Post by Wiz » Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:52 pm

mcvosi wrote:I made the change to the files, but it still does not work in the preview pane of Outlook. Does anyone else have this issue even after modifying the files?
There is some default settings for outlook.exe in the TP4SCROL.DAT and TP4TABLE.DAT files. Did you insert the changes above or below the existing default settings for outlook.exe? Not sure if this is relevant, but i made sure the new lines is added above the existing settings for office applications and the scrolling is working fine in the preview pane on my computer.

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#24 Post by mcvosi » Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:28 am

Wiz wrote:
mcvosi wrote:I made the change to the files, but it still does not work in the preview pane of Outlook. Does anyone else have this issue even after modifying the files?
There is some default settings for outlook.exe in the TP4SCROL.DAT and TP4TABLE.DAT files. Did you insert the changes above or below the existing default settings for outlook.exe? Not sure if this is relevant, but i made sure the new lines is added above the existing settings for office applications and the scrolling is working fine in the preview pane on my computer.
I just appended it to the end of the file. I guess I will try moving it up and see how that works.

Edit: moving it up works. Thanks.
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#25 Post by Tholek » Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:12 pm

Bookmarking this. :)

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#26 Post by DirkM » Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:16 pm

Thanks for the great post, made my day today. Now, did anybody fix the issue of pulldown menus in IE7 under Vista not being scrollable? Works fine under XP and with the external mouse but not when using the middle button and the trackpoint (on a T42/T60 that is).

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#27 Post by brooklynboy » Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:13 pm

SHoTTa35 wrote:i think i saw an update for that on Lenovo.com oneday or somewhere. I dunno, i didn't install it but i know i definitely saw something to that effect.

well this might be exactly it but i'm sure you guys can dig it up:

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... 67941.html
(New) Support scrolling on MS PowerPoint 2007
(New) Support scrolling on Google Picasa
(New) Support scrolling on Eudora version 5.2.1
Version 4.51
(New) Support scrolling on Netscape version 8.1.2
(New) Support scrolling on MS Excel 2007
(New) Support scrolling on MS Word 2007
Version 4.02
Thanks for the link. I downloaded that package, which is for the 64-bit version of XP, and the latest 32-bit package linked in the driver matrix for the T61, and opened them in WinRAR. Despite the readme, neither package contains anything for Excel 2007 that wasn't in my 6/2005 version, though the 64-bit (but not the 32-bit) has an entry for PowerPoint 2007. I checked both tp4scrol.dat and syntpenh.ini. If the readme isn't wrong, could the fix be in the code itself?

So, has anyone gotten horizontal scrolling to work for Excel 2007 using Standard scrolling? The *,* Pass 0 entry that worked for Excel 2003 doesn't do it on my T30.

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#28 Post by brooklynboy » Mon Aug 06, 2007 9:19 pm

UltraNav driver v.7.5.17.24, published 8/3/07, seems to scroll properly both vertically and horizontally, UNMODIFIED, with Office 2007.

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#29 Post by brooklynboy » Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:00 am

Update: Outlook 2007 still requires a *.* entry to support scrolling of the left (folder) pane.

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#30 Post by sokos » Sun Aug 12, 2007 3:06 pm

no worries guys, Lenono has a new version of drivers for Ultranav and suprise-suprise it has the 2007 fix :)
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