New T42 with a RED (dead?) Pixel...

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meditate2001 · #1 Post by **meditate2001** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 3:51 pm

Hi,
finally today my new T42 arrived. I was very happy, but than i discovered a RED pixel. so is this a dead pixel, are all dead pixel red, or whats going on ?can i do something about it ?
thanks,
florian

#2 Post by **K. Eng** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 4:21 pm

You have a "stuck" red subpixel. A dead pixel is completely dark. A pixel is composed of red, green, and blue elements. On your stuck pixel, the red element won't turn off.

I have a red stuck pixel in the bottom left hand quadrant of my display, and it will not go away. I do not think there is any fix.

You can try to return the machine if you aren't happy with it but this depends on the returns policy of the vendor you purchased it from.

meditate2001 wrote:i discovered a RED pixel. so is this a dead pixel, are all dead pixel red, or whats going on ?can i do something about it ?

rocketman · #3 Post by **rocketman** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 4:22 pm

No it's not dead, it's a stuck pixel. If you purchased it directly from IBM you can return it. Unfortunately there is a chance the next one you get has one or more also.

Isaac000 · #4 Post by **Isaac000** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 5:01 pm

Funny thing, I thought I had a stuck (white) pixel on mine.
Always the same spot, and application independent.
I was about to get really [censored].

Then I booted OS/2 and it wasn't there. After a few times, it went away under WinXP too. Dunno what happened there.

_hopefully_ yours might be similar? But probably not, eh?

Plinkerton · #5 Post by **Plinkerton** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 5:21 pm

My name is Plinkerton, and I have a stuck pixel...

My T42 came with a red stuck pixel, that never went away. It also had some white pixels that would appear, but finally dissapeared for ever.

Then my computer died, and I sent it back. Hopefully the new one will be perfect.

I was a little bummed about that red pixel in the beginning, but then I always had a hard time finding it, so it stopped bothering me.

meditate2001 · #6 Post by **meditate2001** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 6:52 pm

My one is OS indepedentent; it appears the second I turn the machine on

I mean, yes, probably I could live with it(have to set a right, red, background desktop image) but if i pay so much money, I thought at least they would exchange the screen ?

It seems very common with the new t42s, why isnt IBM not checking this more ? How is the policy with stuck pixels ???

heavybyte · #7 Post by **heavybyte** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 11:41 pm

You probably want to give this one a shot:
Pixchanger

meditate2001 · #8 Post by **meditate2001** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:46 am

Thats a funny program. As I understand it I can change pixels, so I manged to make my red pixel white. Because it is not dead, it is like I move a window above the red pixel and than it also gets white. But unfortunatly this isnt a real solution, or ? or do i miss something here ???
thanks,f.

heavybyte · #9 Post by **heavybyte** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 7:14 pm

While I don't have dead pixels on my T42 (knocks on wood), I never used this by myself. Just heard some rumours that this might be a solution. Try some google search for Pixchanger.
Greetings
heavy

@meditate: Du kommst aus Deutschland? Cool

meditate2001 · #10 Post by **meditate2001** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 8:31 am

I think the problem with pixchanger is, that you have to do it always you turn on the notebook, and thats too much work...(for me)

@heavybyte: Ja, ob das aber so cool ist weiß ich nicht. Regnet gerade in strömen...

Woher kannst Du so gut Deutsch ?

fafaforza · #11 Post by **fafaforza** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 9:35 am

[quote="Isaac000"]Funny thing, I thought I had a stuck (white) pixel on mine.
Always the same spot, and application independent.
I was about to get really [censored].

Then I booted OS/2 and it wasn't there. After a few times, it went away under WinXP too. Dunno what happened there.

_hopefully_ yours might be similar? But probably not, eh?[/quote]

I had the same happen with my T42. It went away just as unexpectadly as it appeared. Dunno what it was.

craniotes · #12 Post by **craniotes** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 12:58 pm

Just got my T42 the other day, and I have one stuck pixel and one dead pixel. It's my understanding that IBM doesn't view this as a defect unless you have 6 or more of the little blighters, so I have a sinking feeling that I'm just going to have to live with it. What bums me out is that this is my fourth ThinkPad over the years, and the first that has ever had a pixel problem.

My question: Has anyone successfully returned a ThinkPad with 2 defective pixels?

I'm considering giving it a go, but then I could very well end up with something worse. You see, aside from the pixel issue, everything else is just great: Thai keyboard, white screen, tight fitting battery... You get the picture.

Any advice?

Ugh.

-Adam

meditate2001 · #13 Post by **meditate2001** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 5:21 pm

@craniotes: same here, had a lot of thinkpads, but the first, also t42, with something like that. but if you bought a new, i am sure you can exchange it or give it back.
For me I called ibm germany and they said, no repair with less than 8 defect pixels. BUT than i called trouble hotline and they are now thinking about repairing it !

heavybyte · #14 Post by **heavybyte** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 9:12 pm

By any chance, try to get a replacement from IBM. I have a Eizo 19" with a dead pixel at home and it really started to piss me off after a while.

If it shows up after some months, ok, that's bad luck. But out-of-the-box, it's really annoying.

@meditate: Ich komme eigentlich aus Deutschland (Niedersachsen), studiere aber in Kanada auf Vancouver Island. Hier regnet's uebrigens auch.

gruen · #15 Post by **gruen** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 9:05 am

stuck white pixel? its an artifact from the ultranav. don't believe me? hover over it

just hit the blue button a couple times really quickly and sometimes it goes away. it can be gotten rid of without restarting.

craniotes · #16 Post by **craniotes** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 10:18 am

I'm going to give IBM a call tomorrow and see what happens. If they say no, then so be it (I'll just call back later and speak with someone else...). Still, dead/stuck pixels aside, this laptop is just about perfect for me. I suppose that's why it bothers me so much. If I didn't have two malfunctioning pixels, instead of "just about perfect," it would be "perfect."

- Adam

meditate2001 · #17 Post by **meditate2001** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 11:49 am

Yup, for me it is also perfect, I just love it.

@gruen: artifact from the ultranav ? what do you mean ? the touchpad ? how can this be has anything to do with that ???

@heavybyte: komme ursprünglich auch aus niedersachsen(wieren bei uelzen), wohne nun aber in frankfurt/m.

Plinkerton · #18 Post by **Plinkerton** » Sun Oct 10, 2004 12:20 am

craniotes, if you bought it from IBM, and it's within 30 days, you can return it for ANY reason.

gruen · #19 Post by **gruen** » Sun Oct 10, 2004 12:30 pm

meditate2001 wrote: @gruen: artifact from the ultranav ? what do you mean ? the touchpad ? how can this be has anything to do with that ???

yeah- it's funny like that.
do a search

craniotes · #20 Post by **craniotes** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 6:53 pm

Well, I tried. IBM won't lift a finger unless I have eight, or more dead/stuck pixels. As my count is now up to three (one dead/two stuck), I have no recourse but to return the machine and hope for the best with respect to the replacement unit. I'm just praying that this issue is the exception, and not the rule with new ThinkPads as I really need to be using this thing, and not repeatedly sending it back for QC problems. This is the fourth TP I've owned over the past 7 years, and the first one that has exhibited any dead/stuck pixels. Ugh.

Wish me luck...

- Adam

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